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All of this China Taiwan talk assumes that China is dumb enough to sever their most lucrative trade deals with those in the US/NATO sphere of influence. China will be a paper tiger as long as its internal stability is dependent on foreign money flowing in, Taiwan is simply not important enough to risk all that, not to mention actual retaliation. They'll cope and sneed but that's about as far it'll go, they'd much sooner go for their sandnigger and pajeet neighbours before Taiwan.

This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.
This operates under the assumption that the "international community" doesn't change its mind depending on the direction of the wind. Currently it's a good thing to be nice to China, if china loses power or economic stability, it'll be a good thing to hate China, satellite nations of superpowers are fickle and won't tie themselves to anything unless forced to.

I don't think israel will though, they want to behead the snake.
Isreal nuking themselves in 5... 4... 3...
 
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Do I like seeing "Zion Don" support Israel? Nope, not a bit, but who really gives a fuck about this. In a month this will be forgotten. It's not WW3.
i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?
 
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i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?
I'm not in love with it either, but hey. It's better to be the nation that might unpredictably bomb your fucking ass if you pipe up than to be the nation that will not do shit.
 
Nah, I’m off the Trump train.

Not just because it’ll probably spin out of control for him, but also because fuck. I can’t in good conscience support someone dumb enough to get swindled by neocons and low tier IQ likes like Levin.

I still like Vance though. And Trump was (probably!) better than the alternative. Kamala would probably have gotten the US involved in Ukraine, which would be even worse.
Same here maybe some might be on the Trump train I'm off it because I know the blowback will be bad and terrible.
It might sound crazy but I'm more Thomas Massie rand Paul than Ted Cruz.
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While fat packs has to wear a burger suit he is right about the forever war shit.
 
This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

I'm not fucking wargaming this, I'm just explaining how a world war works.
Devil's advocate- the U.S machine demands war blood. There are a million faulty casus belli for war with China, but we only need to use one. Then we have a war to inspire and scare the population with.

Economic stressors, riots in the streets, rampant social strife. All fixed with a good ol' fashioned generation wiping war with China.
Russia is too gay, old, and cantankerous for us to use as our playmate now. The party demands a spry Oceania.
 
What's the point of discussing all this shit without consequence.
For what it's worth the Iranian response of 'nothing is damaged and everything was moved out long ago' is an indication that they don't plan on retaliating directly. The US intentionally didn't use any of the mideast bases and apparently even gave direct warnings beforehand.

It's probably going to be something like the Soleimani killing (which was much more consequential and confrontational) or at least that's what Trump hopes for.
 
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When China makes a real move on Taiwan.
I think people watched Red Dawn type movies too much.
America is now finally great again.
Thank God Trump is breaking the cycle of endless wars in the Middle East
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My key prediction for upcoming long term developments is that Western countries may seek to portray the BRICS nations collectively as a significant geopolitical challenge. For example, Trump's tariffs indicate a serious concern regarding BRICS countries. Currently, public attention appears to be shifting away from traditional issues such as Islamic terrorism and white supremacy, and some progressive voices are hesitant to emphasize China as a primary concern due to sensitivities around accusations of racism. Consequently, framing BRICS as a unified threat could serve to consolidate geopolitical narratives by addressing China, Russia, and Middle Eastern nations under a single strategic focus. BRICs will become the next big politically correct enemy. Arma 3 and call of duty pushing the idea of a BRICS like organization becoming NATO like.
 
Man I really can't wait for something more interesting to happen because this desert war shit is always the most boring and overplayed politics conversation.
I wanted Iran to get a nuke so they could move it to Yemen and use it on a hypersonic missile to hit a US carrier.

That shit would have been hilarious.
 
Can you list what's happened since the bombing then?
TBF we won't know much for a few weeks. It's been less than 12 hours now. I'm always of the mindset when it comes to pissing off islamics, they're already pissed off. I'm seeing a lot of screaming there will be terror attacks, which is possible.
 
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