2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Meat Target]

JUST IN \- At least one of the B2 Bomber pilots who took part in the Iran mission was female — Fox News

Fantastic. Hadjis don't get their loli harem if killed by a woman.

 

[Dawdler]

Natanz is gone:
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Yeah but actually no. That site was only 8m deep.



Fordow:

 

[Soupalognon Y Crouton]

Fantastic. Hadjis don't get their loli harem if killed by a woman.

Could not have been worse news for them

 

[Ghostse]

The central irony is that America is allied with a non-NPT signatory that illegally built nuclear weapons while bombing a NPT member state that agreed to international oversight of its facilities a decade ago.

Except that NPT member refused to allow international oversight of their facilities which is what kicked the current festivities off.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Asked this in the politics thread but how come the radiation levels arent spiking in Iran if three uranium enriching factories were destroyed?

So long as criticality isn't achieved the nuclear materials are mostly just shit on a shelf. And since they're already buried in a deep hole they won't spread far from there. You wouldn't want to go down into that tunnel complex. But the stuff isn't going to get blown out. The primary attack vector was to bury it in millions of tons of rock.

It's less dangerous than hitting an active nuclear reactor. Which works by holding the nuclear fuel in a critical state and moderating and controlling it. The problem there is when you Crack open the lid with explosives you have an active nuclear fission reaction spewing out without any means to shut it down. But most of the outside nuclear contamination at Chernobyl and Fukushima comes from water that comes in contact with the exposed cores. In Chernobyls case the area was also littered with the dust and components of the nuclear portion of the reactor that got disassembled by the massive overpressure explosion.

 

[Meat Target]

Except that NPT member refused to allow international oversight of their facilities which is what kicked the current festivities off.

Not only didn't allow the watchdogs in, but got caught lying to them.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The central irony is that America is allied with a non-NPT signatory that illegally built nuclear weapons while bombing a NPT member state that agreed to international oversight of its facilities a decade ago.

Yes, but Israel are our sons of bitches and Iran is not. Whenever some shithole decides to start shit, the Multi Polar bros crow about "well its not like the USA follows the rules, and besides the rules are made by the USA anyway! Down with the American global order!"

But when the USA starts shit, suddenly the rules are super important and very serious. Very concerning. Horrible even!

For me its very easy. Since the USA makes the rules, its above them. We just pretend to follow them because its important to set an example for the peasants. But we don't have too and when we don't what are you gonna do about it? Threaten us with chinky and vatnik shit that only works for its intended purpose on paper?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Spoiler: Possible Iranian coup

ARASH AZIZI: A group of Iranian businessmen, political and military figures, and relatives of high-ranking clerics, two sources involved in the discussions told me, have begun hatching a plan for running Iran without Khamenei
ARASH AZIZI: The plotters have agreed that a leadership committee consisting of a few high-ranking officials would take over running the country and negotiate a deal with the United States to stop the Israeli attacks.
ARASH AZIZI: The sources were fearful of being discovered but said that they were telling me of their conversations in the hope that the exposure could help them gauge regional and international response. Among the details they shared with me are that former President Hassan Rouhani, who is not involved in the discussions, is being considered for a key role on the leadership committee
ARASH AZIZI: Some of the military officials involved have been in regular contact with their counterparts from a major Gulf country, seeking buy-in for changing Iran’s trajectory and the composition of its leadership.
IRANIAN OFFICIAL TO ARASH AZIZI: "Everybody knows Khamenei’s days are numbered. Even if he stays in office, he won’t have actual power"
ARASH AZIZI: This was before the U.S. bombardment. I reached out to this person just after the explosions in Natanz, Fordo, and Isfahan, and he said, “I think the chances of us succeeding to somehow sideline Khamenei have now increased.
ARASH AZIZI: Either way, the mood in Iranian circles close to the regime has bifurcated, I’m told. Some insiders, including the plotters I spoke with, want to sue for a deal with Trump, even if that means ditching Khamenei. Others believe that Iran must fight back, because otherwise it will invite further aggression.

 

[Meat Target]

: A group of Iranian businessmen, political and military figures, and relatives of high-ranking clerics, two sources involved in the discussions told me, have begun hatching a plan for running Iran without Khamenei

They wouldn't leak something like that if they were planning on it. Khamenei would hear about it and literally take their heads.

 

[Rimanah]

Asked this in the politics thread but how come the radiation levels arent spiking in Iran if three uranium enriching factories were destroyed?

Short, very oversimplified answer: nukes aren’t just regular bombs with nuclear material strapped on. The radiation associated with nuclear weapons is a result of atoms literally being broken apart, with some of the ejected energy coming in the form of radiation.
Just dropping a bomb on a site filled with nuclear fissile materials like uranium isn’t going to cause that chain reaction.
Nor would it speed up the natural processes like decay that are the cause of why elements like uranium and plutonium are “radioactive.”

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

The jews are now attacking from Azerbaijan!

Iranian drones are entering Israeli airspace from the north, F-35s are attempting intercepts.

 

[Meat Target]

So long as criticality isn't achieved the nuclear materials are mostly just shit on a shelf. And since they're already buried in a deep hole they won't spread far from there. You wouldn't want to go down into that tunnel complex. But the stuff isn't going to get blown out. The primary attack vector was to bury it in millions of tons of rock.

It's less dangerous than hitting an active nuclear reactor. Which works by holding the nuclear fuel in a critical state and moderating and controlling it. The problem there is when you Crack open the lid with explosives you have an active nuclear fission reaction spewing out without any means to shut it down. But most of the outside nuclear contamination at Chernobyl and Fukushima comes from water that comes in contact with the exposed cores. In Chernobyls case the area was also littered with the dust and components of the nuclear portion of the reactor that got disassembled by the massive overpressure explosion.

Short, very oversimplified answer: nukes aren’t just regular bombs with nuclear material strapped on. The radiation associated with nuclear weapons is a result of atoms literally being broken apart, with some of the ejected energy coming in the form of radiation.
Just dropping a bomb on a site filled with nuclear fissile materials like uranium isn’t going to cause that chain reaction.
Nor would it speed up the natural processes like decay that are the cause of why elements like uranium and plutonium are “radioactive.”

I blame The Simpsons for the public's complete dearth of understanding RE: nuclear energy. That show is responsible for the notion that nuclear material is glowing green goo that you throw into a tub willy-nilly and then it spontaneously explodes for no reason.

 

[Foltest]

They wouldn't leak something like that if they were planning on it. Khamenei would hear about it and literally take their heads.

Please, just let me have it.
I want to see a coup happen and seeing the mullah from the cranes.

 

[Unintelligence Score]

Some sort of missile cooking off in Qom:
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This guy was calmly walking away from it. We may have found one of the true main characters of this war.

 

[John Badman]

Please, just let me have it.
I want to see a coup happen and seeing the mullah from the cranes.

Good goy, the Iranian people are proud and liberally democratic who full heartedly support western values, it’s up to you to help them fight on the ground and bring about the freedom revolution.

 

[Wodanaz]

@Catch The Rainbow thoughts?

 

[Ghostse]

Yeah but actually no. That site was only 8m deep.
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Fordow:
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Is your retarded take here more or less accurate than your previous retard takes like this one?

These are all rated at 60m of dirt tops and for rock that drops down significantly.

"The GBU-57 is only rated for 60m of dirt" - complete retard


Fordow designers have got be feeling really dumb since their hardened facility got taken out by a weapon only rated for 60m of dirt.

Not only didn't allow the watchdogs in, but got caught lying to them.

And getting caught doing so repeatedly over the past decade despite having a deal that lets them do everything but actually assemble a nuclear weapon. But I'm also not going to really take issue with people lying to faggots from the UN.

So long as criticality isn't achieved the nuclear materials are mostly just shit on a shelf. And since they're already buried in a deep hole they won't spread far from there. You wouldn't want to go down into that tunnel complex. But the stuff isn't going to get blown out. The primary attack vector was to bury it in millions of tons of rock.

The materials will be largely ruined because of contamination, but you are correct they'll just sit there being radioactive unless there is many tons, enough to start and sustain spontaneous fission. They can be recovered and reprocessed but that will take time.

I recall hearing there was concern about groundwater leeching around Fordow.


also, to your point about hitting active reactors:
The other concern is that if the water boils away, the fission reaction gets exposed to the air and now you have spontaneous combustion happening.

 

[Shartin' Luther]

Asked this in the politics thread but how come the radiation levels arent spiking in Iran if three uranium enriching factories were destroyed?

Because of what other people have said, it's not that radioactive at all. Also, the mountain Fordow is under likely contains orders of magnitude more uranium than the facility did.

 

[Rimanah]

I blame The Simpsons for the public's complete dearth of understanding RE: nuclear energy. That show is responsible for the notion that nuclear material is glowing green goo that you throw into a tub willy-nilly and then it spontaneously explodes for no reason.

Eh, Simpsons did a lot , but at a certain point blame has to shift to the people who took a cartoon about yellow people as gospel on how the world works.

Also, nuclear physics and the associated fields like quantum have always had a mystique about them to the average person, despite (imo) not being substantially harder to grasp than any other field of physics. Similar to how rocket science has a reputation of being difficult, as if something like civil engineering or even regular aerospace isn’t hard as shit to do right too.

 

[MadStan]

We've been in their crosshairs for half a century.

I love how you morons believe everyone who doesn't have Jew Derangement Syndrome and isn't cheering on the Le Based Trad Ragheads is working for JIDF.

Have you ever considered that maybe the only ones siding with Iran and its proxies are ragheads, groypers, and fat liberal white women thirsting for Hadji cock to piss off their Bush-voting parents?

Of course you haven't, because you are one or more of those three groups of retards.

Come on. There is a difference between an active enemy and an enemy in waiting. Iran wasn’t going to attack the USA any time soon but when you blow up their facilities you certainly accelerate the process. We are enemies of China too; but there is a great difference between cold relations and then dropping bombs on Shanghai.

The same rhetoric that got us spending trillions in Afghanistan and meddling in the Middle East always starts with “the world would be better…” which always proceeds “we won’t get involved…” and every single god damn time someone dreams up a good reason for spending trillions, maiming troops for sake of some Preaidents Ego.

You were all against spending billions on Jews until Orange Man told you it has nothing to do with Israel and is all about us. And you buy it every time.

IIRC the portable toilets in Iraq were chemical warfare units. And now it’s for the Jews; and when that excuse is over it’s about “it’s for us”.

It doesn’t wash. Trump told you he wasn’t going to get involved and you backed him for it; and he has suckered you and instead of seeing it for what it is (betrayal); you dream up reasons why it’s OK.

NOTHING of benefit has ever come out of meddling over there. Not once.