2025 Israel vs Iran War

China has to be shitting themselves, because they use chink off brand Russian air defense. While Iran was using just your bog standard Russian air defense. Israel has been dunking on Iran unmolested for 2 weeks now, and the USA just flew over their most secured and protected facilities undetected and blew them to smithereens.

Imagine what the USA could do to China if shit went hot. Or not even the US. Imagine what Japan and South Korea could do if shit went hot. They use the bestest modern American airplanes and bombs.
 
I never thought an Iran/Israel war would be so boring that we'd be chatting about almost anything but the conflict in here. I want guncam footage of F-35s and F-22s dogfighting with F-14s/F-4s/F-5s. I'd post more interception footage but it's all shot at night and you can't see anything cool. We should bomb Iran more to punish them for being so boring at this whole war thing.

LA county sheriff posted condolences on X for the victims of US and Israeli bombings in Iran.
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It is possible, but I doubt
These bunker busters were made specifically for Iran's fortified nuclear sites
What the fuck is this new cope you retard. Your handlers are pretty quick with the new firmware updates.

This is you not even 36 hours ago:
These are all rated at 60m of dirt tops and for rock that drops down significantly.
These are all rated at 60m of dirt tops and for rock that drops down significantly.

Then after this is proven hilariously false as your "needs a nuke to lightly damage" facility is shown completely BTFO, you come out with

Might be just shadow from landslide mitigation measures or is it ventilation shafts or whatever. Who knows at this point. You'd have to go walk there and investigate yourself because no side will tell you the truth.

Tunnels being filled with dirt would mean bombs being much less effective (0 void). They don't seem too stupid and everything valuable inside was probably dismantled & removed in day prior. This probably delayed the actual refinement more than anything.
If the material is on outside it means bomb blasted it out.
If the material is on inside it means underground detonation and explosion.
With 3 bombs and not collapsed rock/crater between them it's hard to judge. Rock quality improves as you go deeper.
Since there's no hole-hole collapse the 5m thickness of rock was enough to dampen a lot of explosion.
"No see all the debris means the blast was deflected and didn't do anything major" cope.

Now that this proven false you are saying the bombs, which are just general purpose "Fuck up hardened buried structures weapons" obvious had to be specially designed to fuck up just Iran.

Keep moving those goal posts, retard. Hurry up. You aren't changing your position fast enough.

You are retarded and your telegram channels are too.
Continue coping and then get excited for next cope.

Tomorrow's cope:
"The fall of the Islamic republic was the real goal of the Ayatollah all the time. He didn't want to see his country stuck under a corrupt Theocracy and didn't trust any of the other clerics with reigns of power. That's why he provoked the warmongers in the US and Israel into bombing Iran's nuclear sites so he would have an excuse to step down and turn the country over to secular, but still Islamic, leadership"

It's impressive that some fairly sizable Twitter accounts are still not just denying significant damage was done, but are flat out in denial that B-2s were involved.
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How does Trump know that the strikes were effective? If he has evidence of it there is no reason to keep it secretive. Iran has no reason to deny his claim. If any of their enriched uranium is in tact they now have a tactical advantage even if their ability to make more is diminished.

If a nuclear bomb explodes in new york city tomorrow we wouldn't be able to blame Iran because Trump just said their nuclear program is in shambles.
 
I never thought an Iran/Israel war would be so boring that we'd be chatting about almost anything but the conflict in here. I want guncam footage of F-35s and F-22s dogfighting with F-14s/F-4s/F-5s. I'd post more interception footage but it's all shot at night and you can't see anything cool. We should bomb Iran more to punish them for being so boring at this whole war thing.
I wanted some dog fights. Can we get a refund?
 
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Ah, so the response to the complete destruction of the Iranian nuclear program, will be posting more AI images on Twitter.

WRT the Hormuz Strait, Iran closing it off 2 weeks ago would be a different story, as 2 weeks ago, Iran was viewed as a dangerous, powerful enemy with tons of ballistic missiles that could cause serious damage to whoever would challenge them militarily. Today, the story is completely different. Iran has never been weaker in both public perception, and actual military might. They wouldn't be able to close off the strait without their entire navy being destroyed in a day. Would you want to be one of the IRGC guys told to fire on a USN Carrier group? You would be receiving your own death sentence.
 
I wanted some dog fights. Can we get a refund?
Unfortunately for kino purposes everyone realized decades ago that dogfights are retarded when you have air-to-air missiles that can shoot down enemy planes from dozens of miles away. 100+ miles away these days for some of these missiles
 
I want guncam footage of F-35s and F-22s dogfighting with F-14s/F-4s/F-5s.
Unfortunately the Iranians were too scared to actually fly the F-14s in combat to dogfight, so the last of the F-14s in the world had to die on the ground rather than in the air like they were meant to. At least you could respect them if they fought and died in the air, rather than die on the ground like a bitch.
 
From the scree blown out of the tunnels, it looks like a mix of the bombs making new skylights as they blow in the ceiling below them, and then material being cracked and broken off then ejected from the tunnels with great force. This means the tunnels would be filled with debris, and there may be structural issues, but you don't even need to excavate, just scoop out debris. This is still going to be months of work (again, provided there are no other structural issues) but much less than digging a new facility.
I think you are looking at the photos backwards.
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The blue scree seen in that picture is not blown out from the entrance to the tunnels. The tunnel entrances are facing the other way. The tunnel complex extends from those impact points and connects to the center prong of the trident shaped road in the lower right.

The lower blue color swath seems to follow the presumed path of the underground tunnels. Not a shotgun discharge blasting out from the tunnel entrances. Something stirred up the surface above the tunnels enough to displace the normal top layer of dirt and reveal the underlying layer color. The same color seen in the scree piles.

This had to be a measurable seismic event. The only question is who or what would be listening for it? And who controls those seismographs? How far would a very shallow event radiate or be detectable?
 
How does Trump know that the strikes were effective?
They have an approximate understanding of the facility, how it was built, how deep, and what sort of terrain it's under and how the blast from such explosions propagates. His advisors/planners have most certainly ran the math and would know what level of damage would be inside triple chucking the things on both sides of the mountain top, and they have no reason to share those simulations with you. It may not be completely, structurally destroyed as it is a large facility, but they'd know what'd happen to anything inside, and it wouldn't be pretty for anything or anyone in it.
 
I think you are looking at the photos backwards.
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The blue scree seen in that picture is not blown out from the entrance to the tunnels. The tunnel entrances are facing the other way. The tunnel complex extends from those impact points and connects to the center prong of the trident shaped road in the lower right.

The lower blue color swath seems to follow the presumed path of the underground tunnels. Not a shotgun discharge blasting out from the tunnel entrances. Something stirred up the surface above the tunnels enough to displace the normal top layer of dirt and reveal the underlying layer color. The same color seen in the scree piles.

This had to be a measurable seismic event. The only question is who or what would be listening for it? And who controls those seismographs? How far would a very shallow event radiate or be detectable?

Let's adjust the colors

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Unfortunately the Iranians were too scared to actually fly the F-14s in combat to dogfight
NeoCons often compare the Taliban to Islamic Iran for propaganda purposes but there's no comparison the Taliban totally destroyed their regime for about 20 years when all they had to do was turn over Bin Laden. Totally avoidable if you believe in the official story. Meanwhile Iranians get air struck and are still too pussy to use their F-14s.
 
How does Trump know that the strikes were effective? If he has evidence of it there is no reason to keep it secretive. Iran has no reason to deny his claim. If any of their enriched uranium is in tact they now have a tactical advantage even if their ability to make more is diminished.

If a nuclear bomb explodes in new york city tomorrow we wouldn't be able to blame Iran because Trump just said their nuclear program is in shambles.
You could blame them because they claim to have removed all the material already. It is kind of funny how they just nuh uhh’ed the whole thing though. It’s like the classic monty python tis but a scratch skit.

 
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The lower blue color swath seems to follow the presumed path of the underground tunnels. Not a shotgun discharge blasting out from the tunnel entrances. Something stirred up the surface above the tunnels enough to displace the normal top layer of dirt and reveal the underlying layer color. The same color seen in the scree piles.
If you put enough energy into ground you can move everything:
There definitely was a significant shock but it didn't register on seismic scale.
I would assume whole hillside shook, but that's not enough to damage insides.
The reports from both sides are kind of useless too.
 
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How does Trump know that the strikes were effective? If he has evidence of it there is no reason to keep it secretive. Iran has no reason to deny his claim. If any of their enriched uranium is in tact they now have a tactical advantage even if their ability to make more is diminished.

If a nuclear bomb explodes in new york city tomorrow we wouldn't be able to blame Iran because Trump just said their nuclear program is in shambles.
It's actually hilarious you think Iran, who has been posturing itself as "about to bring the big one" every night since Israel began bombing them, sabre rattling and pumping themselves up no matter how badly they keep getting fucked in the face by explosives. has "no reason to deny his claim"

The Iranian regime has been doing little more than trying to posture and project a tough strong face as Israel kills off military staff sometimes within days of taking the position from the last guy Israel blew up. and America bombs their shit in with zero resistance met. They will of course deny Trump's claim because trumps claim shows them as weak, and they will never accept that.

The fanfiction some of you guys write to make up these hypothetical scenarios is something to behold.
 
The people who are ragging on and on about how we didn't destroy Fadrow outright are forgetting something important: Even if the facility isn't completely destroyed explosions of that magnitude will compromise the structural integrity of the tunnels and galleries. One decent earthquake, which Iran gets all the time, and those tunnels will collapse. The whole place is fucked even if they can't see it.
 
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