Sam Hyde

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I thought it worked as a non-sequitor. Like to me Sam’s version of blackface is just so absurd it did make sense when they were telling the Shower Cap girl that he was playing some Star Wars style alien. I like the idea that the audience of randos were just laughing along with the applause like Pavlovian Dogs.

I was wondering when did Charls and Sam patch things up?
Usually I think an edgy comic doing blackface is so on the nose and lazy like "ISNT IT FUNNY WE'RE DOING THE ONE THING YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO!?" but it was so over the top, and in service of redoing a tired bit (Steve Harvey feigning shock at the crazy shit people say on Family Feud) that it totally worked for me.
 
Example of this in the last ten years?
I didn't think that D&D episode of Community should have been banned, but I did think the joke of "Isn't it funny Chang doesn't realize he's doing blackface" wasn't funny enough to justify being in the episode, especially when it got it yanked from all the streamers
 
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charls had a breakdown after almost dying in a tornado, he was live after and he was implicating sam in the sabotage of world peace, nick, charls and eric's future in acting. he said to look at how many of sam's friends/associates have comited suicide. after, they got in contact and alledgedly settled it.
It was a lot worse than that. Charles was mad as fuck about Sam. He said he held it back for years because he didn't want to tarnish MDEs reputation and come across as a gossipy faggot, but he got one night and spoke his mind. To start he was really mad about the show being called World Peace 2 because without him being involved it shouldn't have the same title. He said Sam sabotage he and Nick's career after the cancellation by refusing to let them work on other projects with Adult Swim and acting as a gatekeeper to potential collaboration. He said Sam screwed him out of his cut of the H2B book, around $35,000 and then reported him to the IRS on top of it. He also said Sam was a closested fag and took it up the butt. He said he would never ever work with him again in a billion years.

Does anyone have a link to his drunk rant at the bar? It is not this one with the fireplace in the back. that was the first time discussing sam, then afterwards he got drunk at a bar somewhere and really went into it.


For what it's worth, Sam did respond to a lot of these allegations against him and admitted some were true and some were false. The stuff about the IRS specifically he said was a miscommunication between him and Charles. Essentially Charles was mad because Sam submitted proper paperwork to the IRS for the business he was running and Charles was an employee of. He took that as Sam reporting him to the IRS.
 
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by refusing to let them work on other projects with Adult Swim and acting as a gatekeeper to potential collaboration
Was he holding them hostage? Or did Charles mean that Sam said he doesn't want it to happen? Cause if I got massively screwed over by someone, I sure as hell wouldn't want my friends to be on good terms with them. No idea what exactly happened in their case, though.
 
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Sam covered the email Charls claimed was of him screwing him over but it really was some sort of misinterpretation regarding the automile project where Sam just asked for a very small amount of money (like sub $500 for executive producer credit) to let Nick and charls do their thing without Sam being primarily involved and I guess adult swim took it as canceling the project because they wanted it as more of a troupe group effort or something??

Automile still would be a great project. Id love to see Nick as an Ernie boch parody bc fuck that guy

The charls spergout is really just hours of drunken insecurity reveal euphoria on display compounded with saying the same thing over and over again and is really embarrassing
 
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Was he holding them hostage? Or did Charles mean that Sam said he doesn't want it to happen? Cause if I got massively screwed over by someone, I sure as hell wouldn't want my friends to be on good terms with them. No idea what exactly happened in their case, though.
It's hard to really know what the truth is because a lot of this stuff came from Channing as well. It's hard to know if Charles just read some of her rants against Sam and took it as truth because I don't think Charles is really all that mentally stable at times. Usually you'd think two people telling the same story means there's probably some truth in it but this is a situation where it's really hard to call.

What Channing said, and what Charles echoed, was that Sam would not pass on contact information for his crew, including actors like Charles and Nick. So basically if you wanted to work with Charles you had to go through Sam first. Charles says that that's the main reason why he never had any success on his own after the show cancellation. There was also a project that Nick and Eric had, and Adult Swim wanted a green light it. They couldn't do without Sam's permission and Sam wouldn't stop trolling Adult Swim so ultimately they couldn't make the show.
 
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Sam covered the email Charls claimed was of him screwing him over but it really was some sort of misinterpretation regarding the automile project where Sam just asked for a very small amount of money (like sub $500 for executive producer credit) to let Nick and charls do their thing without Sam being primarily involved and I guess adult swim took it as canceling the project because they wanted it as more of a troupe group effort or something?
Three minutes onward in this video is what your talking about.
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Got around to watching both eps in my car and I thought they were pretty good generally. The black face thing was probably my least favorite since it was hella cringe but the rest was all good. I didn't laugh or exhale, but I still liked it quite a lot in a more artistic sense. The camera work/quality was good and the colouring was great, but I didn't fw the music any. The editing had it's ups and downs but I feel like they were trying to make the most of their footage and have it sorta tell a story. The cut scenes were closer to really old MDE stuff and not so much like WP which I didn't really like but I'm not sure there's any replicating WP stuff. Although I liked the cut scenes more and music much more in WP that was a decade ago and would seem out of place now since the cut scenes were kinda Y2K/vaporwave which have by now fallen out of fashion.
All in all I was impressed with just how good everything looked, I imagine because Sam+wiggers could choose exact cameras and lenses and had final say on coloring choices. I liked the construction guy sketch a lot and the chandelier place thing was cool.

I didn't like the long live music scene on ep2 though, it didn't really need to be there let alone last as long
 
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In one of the PGL podcasts, I can't remember which, Nick mentions showing up to do a skit and feeling like he was totally unprepared for shooting it. I think he mentioned he thought he'd be able to riff his lines, but after that day of shooting he started preparing what he would say more thoroughly because the shoot didn't go as well as he wanted. I wonder if the one he was talking about was the firefighter sketch. The bit felt like something Nick came up with, and it was funny, but it didn't feel like what he was saying was very thought out.
 
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Dont think this full video has been posted here. I thought this was kinda funny and intersrting but that mayhem miller guy is the biggest faggot ever.

Are all the new fans who thought Sam was only ironically racist and antisemitic seething right now?
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Finally got round to watching all this podcast. Funny it came just a week after I pointed out on here that "I'm not sure I can recall a single occasion of anyone giving Sam major pushback on a show or podcast". This was the first occasion I've seen someone (or two people if you include the host), try and drill in to Sam's statements - and even though Mayhem was brought on by Sam, Mayhem still had Sam stumped a few times.

Queesechake gives a quote from Sam here, but it baffles me how so many of his fans fail to see how his words so often don't match his actions. Plus how often his words one minute don't match his words another.

For example, on the Sam being unironically racist issue, Sam states on this pod that: ""all I care about is my people [...] white people", and migrants should be deported, at the same time as being sat next to a Filipino who is an employee and member of his circle. When Mayhem points out this inconsistency, Sam has zero answer.

On the antisemitism issue specifically, on the same podcast Sam gasses up Even Matan, mentions training Harley Morenstein etc.Elsewhere he has employed Scott Sullivan and bicflame. He's collabed with Alex Stein, Adam Friedland, Chris Kattan, Ari Shaffir, etc. Hardly actions of someone supposedly hostile to jews, which is what antisemitism theoretically means.

I've already posted elsewhere the glaring hypocrisy of Sam bemoaning others for profiting from "degeneracy" when he makes money from Fishtank.

Sam is unable to explain these inconsistencies, and I have yet to see a member of the fan-base provide a reasonable sounding justification either. Sam clearly does a good job at pandering to much of his audience, but many such as Queesechake just seem to hear what they want to hear.
 
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Sam is unable to explain these inconsistencies
He's obviously not as smart as he pretends to be. Nothing wrong with not being smart, but personally, I take everything he says with a huge grain of sault, and not because of "irony", not because it could be a bit. It is clear he means some of the stuff he says, since he keeps repeating it and gets somewhat defensive when confronted. I think he's flirting with being a neonazi/racist (in the real sense of these words) in theory, but struggles when in comes to practice: like you've mentioned, he's friends/colleagues with people of different races and nationalities, even the joooos!

I understand what he's saying, I agree with some points he's making, but some of what he thinks is barely applicable to the real world. To me it seems he's just struggling with nuance, probably because he's been screwed over by the other side of the political spectrum. And while I understand the anger, and I despise these fuckers, too, it's not smart to be 100% reactionary. It's stooping to their level.

Long story short, he's just a funny guy, not a philosopher, a guru, or an expert on politics.
 
Scott Sullivan and bicflame.
Well, they are not jewish tho, bicflame is jewish …..cause he has curly hair? Isnt Scott probably just irish?
He's collabed with Alex Stein, Adam Friedland, Chris Kattan, Ari Shaffir, etc. Hardly actions of someone supposedly hostile to jews, which is what antisemitism theoretically means.
In the same podcast he says he’s antisemetic in the sense that these people should not have that much place in powers and the power, he even said something like “im not anti-every jewish person i meet” i forgot his exactly words.
 
Well, they are not jewish tho, bicflame is jewish …..cause he has curly hair? Isnt Scott probably just irish?

In the same podcast he says he’s antisemetic in the sense that these people should not have that much place in powers and the power, he even said something like “im not anti-every jewish person i meet” i forgot his exactly words.
He also said he doesn't believe in meritocracy as far as I recall?
 
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In the same podcast he says he’s antisemetic in the sense that these people should not have that much place in powers and the power, he even said something like “im not anti-every jewish person i meet” i forgot his exactly words.
Basically this. Just because you're racist doesn't mean you hate every single black person. Just because you're antisemitic doesn't mean you hate every single jewish person. Alex doesn't shill for kikes, Matan has a running bit where he spits any time someone mentions him being jewish, Adam Friedland has openly advocated for Palestine and against Netenyahu, Ari has openly said antisemitism isn't a real problem, Kattan is the only weird one and I imagine Sam collaborated with him because he's extremely famous in comparison to Sam and Sam likes money.
 
Well, they are not jewish tho, bicflame is jewish …..cause he has curly hair? Isnt Scott probably just irish?

Scott Sullivan has definitely tweeted about being part Sephardi Jewish, though sure he's likely not full. I've seen some fairly believable things saying bic is jewish as well, can't remember where.

I left off Alex Schultz from my list as that would be groundless speculation, but given his surname, appearance, and being from the NY region, I wouldn't be surprised if he was also part.

In the same podcast he says he’s antisemetic in the sense that these people should not have that much place in powers and the power, he even said something like “im not anti-every jewish person i meet” i forgot his exactly words.

Well sure, he watered down his statement to a point where the original statement carries little meaning. He will rail on the internet at vague, unnamed jews whose stories he has only imagined, or at wildly successful people who he's never likely to meet but will chase for clout like Dave Portnoy. But with jews he actually knows he's different. His treating of jews he knows as individuals does not fully tally with a statement of antisemitism, which is surely a blanket aversion to anyone who is jewish merely by virtue of them being jewish.

A bizarre example of this was in his interview with Alex Stein the other week (clip at timestamp below). Sam is getting angry at Dave Portnoy saying "he's just another obnoxious jew.... no offence" (to which Alex Stein, a jew, replies "none taken").

This exchange just doesn't make sense. Clearly Sam originally intends calling Portnoy "just another obnoxious jew" to be offensive towards jews and indicating that they are typically obnoxious. Yet he catches himself and realises he is saying this to a jew, so somehow tries to row back adding "no offence". If no offence was meant, Sam's original slur at Portnoy is suddenly pretty much without weight and meaning.

As an aside, Alex Stein letting it slide with a "none [offence] taken", was another example underlining the point I'd made earlier about how rare it is for people in Sam's circle to call him out on things which contradict like that. Had Mayhem been sat next to Sam during that exchange, perhaps he would have interjected asking "how can you mean that statement with no offence?".


He also said he doesn't believe in meritocracy as far as I recall?

He did, which is dense beyond belief - and also undermines many of the points he makes in favour of white pride - such as the fact so many modern inventions and institutions were created by the skills and virtues of white people, who then in turn should deservedly reap the rewards from those.

I'm not sure he really believes it either, and it was just another contradictory thing said in the heat of the moment to try and support another otherwise suspect assertion.

Basically this. Just because you're racist doesn't mean you hate every single black person. Just because you're antisemitic doesn't mean you hate every single jewish person. Alex doesn't shill for kikes, Matan has a running bit where he spits any time someone mentions him being jewish, Adam Friedland has openly advocated for Palestine and against Netenyahu, Ari has openly said antisemitism isn't a real problem,

I mean, it's almost like acknowledging that every individual is different... and so tarring everyone with the same brush (as full-on racist statements do) is stupid.

Saying that eg you are "antisemitic", is a blanket statement which encapsulates all jews. What you describe is rather there are some jews I like, and some jews I don't like. Being just "anti-some jews" is not the same as being "anti-jew". Again, it comes down to the difference between treating people as individuals - which is right in an enlightened, civilised, capitalist society, and making dumbed-down, low resolution statements which are basically communism of the mind.

Also, just coincidentally, the jews Sam apparently likes are the ones he's hung out with, and the ones he doesn't like seem to be ones he hasn't hang out with and never will. It's why a lot of antisemitism appears schizophrenic, or like the angry man yelling at a cloud meme. It's much easier to project your anger on to people you've never met in real life, are never likely to meet, and who you can imagine things about to suit your prejudices.

and I imagine Sam collaborated with him because he's extremely famous in comparison to Sam and Sam likes money.

Sam collaborated with Chris Kattan because he was a member of what Sam views as the "golden age" of Saturday Night Live. Sam also paid Kattan to be on the podcast with them.
 
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Long story short, he's just a funny guy, not a philosopher, a guru, or an expert on politics.
Real shit, anybody going to Sam to help formulate their world view is already too far gone to be saved.
Something i have to remind myself of is Sam is first and foremost a provocateur, an artist guy if you will. He wants the things he says and does to get a reaction. Does he believe half the shit that comes out of his mouth? Who knows, but as long as it gets a reaction he'll roll with it.
 
It's significantly worse than World Peace and their older sketches. If you can't tell the difference then....idk what to tell YOU.
charls' gamer stream gf sketch is literally on the same level as 'murder charls'
hell, each episode is like "ideas man" but with higher production value, which is a departure from WP, where you could feel higher production value, but the skits themselves were way more sterilized imo

legit you guys are just looking for shit to be angry about because this costs money now... or maybe because you grew up and your personality changed over the course of a literal decade since WP was released and you dont find the same things funny anymore
 
There is a culture war happening. If you don't think it matters than you're a faggot. Anyone posting on this website is actively participating in it because it represents far more than just a place you can say nigger and faggot. You don't need to define it or understand the larger goal. You can disagree with certain elements while still using it regularly. It doesn't make you a hypocrite.

Sam Hydes stuff is the same way. You can advocate for pro white positions, without being an unlikable neo-nazi. You can hang out with other races, and appreciate other cultures, without throwing the white race under the bus. Personally, I find it a lot more respectable and funny to sit in a room full of minorities and talk about the anti-white narrative then it is to talk about it in empty podcast studio. It doesn't make you a hypocrite- it makes you seem more legitimate. Normalization and likability is crucial when it comes to the culture war.
The stuff Sam is saying isn't controversial or debatable. It's just facts that get shut down.

Being dumbfounded that Sam has brushed shoulders with Jews in the -entertainment industry- shouldn't be shocking. If anything it supports his message that Jews run the industry and control speech, because they do. He will sit right next to a jew and say it, because he doesn't care and isn't afraid of the consequences. That is what winning the culture war looks like.

Listing every single jew he's sat at a table with and trying to delegitimize the message he has spent over 10 years consistently advocating for is something only an autistic retard would do because they can't understand nuance. Saying "durr he wants to kill all non whites but has a Filipino friend so that's like a hypocrite??" is fucking retarded. Let's work on some things first: pointing out Jewish influence throughout history and recognizing who they are, getting the borders closed and deporting anyone who's here illegally. We'll figure out how to get rid of Damiel after that.
 
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