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Should be a wild four years.

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California Newt said:
This sounds like a really good idea. It's retard-proof unless the parent gives the kid access to the adult device. Wouldn't that just push the problem back a step, though (from your perspective)? Wouldn't there be the issue of the Dems removing sites with religious, race-related, or anti-LGBT etc. information from the whitelist? Or restricting it to "get-groomed-and-become-a eunuch-for-the-empire.com"?
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As I've stated previously, the most logical solution is to create computer versions of those bark phones that restrict social media, no web browser, texting only to accepted contacts, and contacts/apps are controlled by the parent.
This isn't as sexy as a government solution but it's technologically feasible, leaves the rule of the child up to the parent, and peer pressure could help enforce it. If you want government involvement, fund an education campaign on why it's important and make schools use them instead of ipads and Chromebooks too.

I have already see middle class mom chatter about letting your kid have a regular smart phone being dangerous because of predators and inappropriate material and saying they'd never do that and then which kid friendly phone they prefer instead.

One of my family members likewise warned me to never give my children a tablet because it's too hard to control and even stuff on YouTube wasn't always actually kid friendly even if it was on YouTube kids and to just avoid it completely and she's an ultra lefty school teacher. She was speaking from experience with her own kids and basically gave me a "learn from my mistakes" warning.
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He also has a US parent, which means he isn't an anchor baby.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
the 'birthright citizenship' that's on the chopping block these days is, coming to the country, popping out a pedro or a pedrina, and then becoming a US 'citizen' by proxy because you pissed a baby out while you were here illegally.
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Not only that, there's an entire (or was several years ago at least) ecosystem around pregnant girls in Mexico being smuggled here just to give birth. In the hospital, suddenly they're all Americans and they then start fetching family members to come live with them.
 
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As far as the "ID for porn" thing goes it's government overreach at it's most basic. The internet in general is not a place for children and the proliferation of internet connected devices among children for things like school work is insane. I could give a shit about internet porn but I am sick and tired of having my rights eroded because of some faggots pearl clutching about "the children!".
 
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Lian Xing said:
Porn isn’t speech.
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You could argue that it IS freedom of expression though
Hemlock Latte said:
1. Leftists are aware that many Palestinians would not be accepting of LGBT people. Many of them are religious extremists, and in Gaza, all of them have spent their entire lives languishing in a slum-prison. Some Palestinians are queer themselves, and some are accepting of LGBT people, but that has nothing to do with it. Leftists' motivation for supporting Palestine is not self-interested. I suspect a lot of people on the right know this. People don't deserve to be genocided because their views are regressive. No one deserves genocide.
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Cope.I know for a fact, a bunch of people on the left genuinely want MAGAts to die because they do not go along with the gay shit.Mind you these 'conservatives' are not as harsh in their beliefs as the ultra conservatives Muslims.So i highly doubt they are 'principled' in their fight.Ask one of them what they think should happen to a moderate Christian family.

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Here's lots of salt from the people over at bluesky about the Supreme Court:
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I kind of get their core arguments though, what stops the next Dem president from declaring all guns illegal ?
Fruttasecca said:
Muslims want to do the same to you.
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Shut-up you stupid infidel
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
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this makes me so happy. they have learned literally nothing the past 6 months. they have taken NO actual lessons from their actions, they've seen NO information they want to retain from how trump's behavior is popular. it's honestly just really reassuring that they're going to fuck up midterms too.

please god let them try and get SCOTUS to rule against the bill of rights, it would be so funny.
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Like all "what if the Democrats use this tactic against us?" fears, the Democrats have already been using that tactic for years. Tons of gun cases have been thrown out because the plaintiffs didn't risk spending the rest of their lives in jail by breaking the unconstitutional law before suing.
 
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California Newt said:
This sounds like a really good idea. It's retard-proof unless the parent gives the kid access to the adult device. Wouldn't that just push the problem back a step, though (from your perspective)? Wouldn't there be the issue of the Dems removing sites with religious, race-related, or anti-LGBT etc. information from the whitelist? Or restricting it to "get-groomed-and-become-a eunuch-for-the-empire.com"?
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as much as a pain in the ass as it would be, i think the best set up is having the lists curated per state. red states can ban stuff for children they don't like, and blue states can ban stuff for children they don't like. it's not a perfect system, but that's pretty much how these kind of things work now. it may be naive, but i would hope that having a chokepoint for minors' access to the internet would at least make it much, much harder for groomers to have Discord chats or Roblox levels that draw in children who then get spammed by porn or grooming messages

it's not a magic bullet that will fix all problems. but the purpose is to have some kind of enforceable, concrete divide between minor spaces and adult spaces on the internet. the system i'm thinking of isn't just to stop minors from accessing porn, which seems to be a blind spot for some people. what really needs to happen is breaking down the idea that we have apps like Discord where adults and children use the same app and can easily intermingle in the same places

the next question is, "how do you prevent the adults that are required to janny these spaces from grooming the children themselves?" well, unfortunately, that's a problem you face with any kind of place where children are present. ultimately having a stringent hiring process, filtering out the generic groomers who will spam porn at kids out in the open, and making it so a pedophile needs to be really, really sneaky to groom a child is the best that you can do
 
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A lot of you are way too caught up on this porn shit.
Porn doesnt create degeneracy, it funnels it into the bedroom or wherever your computer is. Before porn people would just go out and rape women to fulfill their fantasies. Or they would rent some trafficked girl who would be a slave to some thug pimp.
You have an extremely naive and sheltered view of the world if you think porn is some great evil that corrupts people.
Porn likely saved thousands, maybe millions of lives simply by getting the worlds Ted Bundys and Jeffrey Dahmers to lock themselves up in a room by themselves instead of going out to prey on real people. There is no reason to give the government an inch over porn.
 
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Fcret said:
I mean, this has ultimately always been the problem with 1A jurisprudence wrt obscenity - how do you unambiguously determine what is purely obscene and what is protected speech? Is an art hoe taking nude OF pictures of herself with "FREE GAZA" pornographic or is it an artistic political expression? Do we have to show ID to use twitter now because people post lewd photos and drawings on it? What level of lewd ultimately makes something obscene?

My gut feeling is that a lot of this is going to get neutered as courts have to tackle this on a case-by-case basis and the case law will probably get quite messy.
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At the risk of looking like a moron, I wonder if this whole anonymity thing is something that cryptocurrency could actually solve.

You use your ID to generate an anonymized token that you then use to access an 18+ space. The only question would be how to keep kids from getting wallets and collecting tokens from adults, but at that points you're already operating beyond the average "I'm not gonna install an app that's not on the app store; I could get a virus" zoomer tech-proficiency level.

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as much as a pain in the ass as it would be, i think the best set up is having the lists curated per state. red states can ban stuff for children they don't like, and blue states can ban stuff for children they don't like. it's not a perfect system, but that's pretty much how these kind of things work now. it may be naive, but i would hope that having a chokepoint for minors' access to the internet would at least make it much, much harder for groomers to have Discord chats or Roblox levels that draw in children who then get spammed by porn or grooming messages

it's not a magic bullet that will fix all problems. but the purpose is to have some kind of enforceable, concrete divide between minor spaces and adult spaces on the internet. the system i'm thinking of isn't just to stop minors from accessing porn, which seems to be a blind spot for some people. what really needs to happen is breaking down the idea that we have apps like Discord where adults and children use the same app and can easily intermingle in the same places

the next question is, "how do you prevent the adults that are required to janny these spaces from grooming the children themselves?" well, unfortunately, that's a problem you face with any kind of place where children are present. ultimately having a stringent hiring process, filtering out the generic groomers who will spam porn at kids out in the open, and making it so a pedophile needs to be really, really sneaky to groom a child is the best that you can do
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That's kind of the point I was going for, which is that ultimately it's all about having the right people in power no matter what the laws are.

That and the idea that PR can be more important than what's actually enforced. I think most of the problems we have could probably be solved if Hollywood were cleared out and made to put out better material for 10 years.
 
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Fruttasecca said:
A lot of you are way too caught up on this porn shit.
Porn doesnt create degeneracy, it funnels it into the bedroom or wherever your computer is. Before porn people would just go out and rape women to fulfill their fantasies. Or they would rent some trafficked girl who would be a slave to some thug pimp.
You have an extremely naive and sheltered view of the world if you think porn is some great evil that corrupts people.
Porn likely saved thousands, maybe millions of lives simply by getting the worlds Ted Bundys and Jeffrey Dahmers to lock themselves up in a room by themselves instead of going out to prey on real people. There is no reason to give the government an inch over porn.
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Does the rise of the faggots mean nothing to you?
 
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The court first holds that the parents are likely to succeed on their claim that the policy of not allowing opt-outs unconstitutionally burdens their exercise of their religion.
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Sotomayor: The reverberations of the Court’s error will be felt, I fear,for generations. Unable to condone that grave misjudgment, I dissent.
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