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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
i won't defend hiring illegals but it's a drip down problem from the super markets. They low ball farmers on everything and if the farmer says it's worth more than they will point out food has an expiry date and they can take it or get nothing when it rots. Food has got to increase in price if you want natives to work those jobs. You can't have 5 super markets all low balling everything and telling the farmer to sell their goods at below cost. Which is happening constantly. Milk farmers have been struggling to make a profit for years. The local shops selling local food have been replaced with super markets bigger than most hospitals and people keep going to them for the low prices.
One way our economy suffers greatly and our culture is the side streets are all brown now. You used to see crystal shops, independent clothes stores, Computer game stores not called Game / Sports direct, butchers and green grocers. They had higher quality products than the super market and more informed owners. They would be proper little hubs and now it's all brown. Pawn shops, Phone repair shops, Turkish barbers. é€éúúíúóááó€€é€úé SUPER MARKET and 5 take aways next to each other. The foot traffic on those streets make you keep your hand on your wallet while you walk past more illegally parked vans dropping off god knows what to obvious drug fronts. To town needs 5 phone repair shops and 3 of them on the same street makes no sense. I tried to get a phone repaired recently and it was 3/4ths the cost of a new one. Unless you have something you must get off your phone it's not worth repairing them. So how do you run 3 shops on top of each other and make rent? You don't. And no native wants to open a shop on paki street.
I agree a lot with this. The oversaturation of super markets yet only a relative few chains effectively means they've all set the baseline for the price of goods and none will is more attractive than the other for farmers when it comes to who they sell to. Even if the farmers try to cut out the middle man and sell directly to people, the amount of regulation that applies to them selling their goods specifically to the general public is a bit absurd.

I don't think we necessarily need to increase the price of food at a supermarket level just to help farmers, but I think the measures necessary to help them nationally will see it bump as a temporary consequence but they'd be better off long-term for it.

One fix we need is to enable/aid farmers with selling off their produce outside the UK, because right now they're stuck selling domestically. Meanwhile the EU is able to flood our market with their produce and we can't do the same because they regard us as being Congo-tier when it comes to how we handle and harvest produce so they slap a fat nasty cost on top to inspect it essentially eliminating any potential profit. So UK farmers are forced to compete with the EU, but the EU prices us out of being competitive, trapping all we produce to the island. In theory this would force UK supermarkets to compete with EU supermarkets for our produce and hopefully get our farmers paid. It's like the comparison I brought up before regarding the free market and China: we're on fundamentally mismatched and uneven grounds and nobody seems to have the balls to level the playing field. We'd rather fuck over our farmers to placate the EU, which essentially amounts to France and Germany - the former an on-the-brink shithole whose lead by a man with delusions of grandeur and the latter so foppish about being PC I'm required to remind everything that Hitler was Austrian.

Ironically after how shit the India deal was, Starmer's deals with the US and the EU might help our farmers out, though they both have massive asterisks. The EU one gave them access to our fishing waters in near perpetuity and re-applying borderless travel to Gibraltar from Spain, and is responsible for the "1 in, 1 out" deal we've put in place with France. The American one lets them export beef into our market up to 20k tons tariff-free, though this goes for our beef producers as well so it evens out. (The American deal is probably the one good thing Starmer has done, it's fine to admit that.)

Alternatively we could pull an EU and make imports more restrictive to make domestic look far more attractive. We already do this with meat, which is why the big fast food chains will always advertise their burgers being made with British beef, but they won't reveal their fries are made with far cheaper imported potatoes; it's more expensive to import foreign beef than it is domestically butchered beef so they're trying to make virtue out of saving money. This would definitely bump up the cost of food though if implemented without being able to export abroad. This might make super market chains hurt, forced to prioritise domestic producers for the best costs but also forced to pay more for local farmers.

You're right in everything being brown now. The complete lack of store diversity has murdered competitive pricing dead and it affects both the consumer and the food producer by depriving the former of choice and the latter of a larger market. These fronts are, I'm convinced, a means to keep people in the country on work visas whilst actually as much as they gone to avoid actually receiving any customers. They don't add value to the country, they help them in stealing from it.

I'm sure kicking out 10 million people will fix both of the issues above... somehow.

And even if it doesn't, it'd make me feel better.
I'm sorry, I know I brought up the weather earlier but it wouldn't be British without discussing it. Has anybody else seen any sign of this mythical heat wave? The BBC have been running headlines about it for the past couple of days but British weather seems to be its usual miserable self across most of the country.

I feel like the BBC are trying to gaslight us. And don't talk to me about next week 'cause it looks bloody miserable for most of that as well.
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It's been a bit balmy. Like, I'll go to bed alright but wake up feeling overly warm but that's about it. The most sun I remember getting was in May, but June has been rather morose so far in comparison. It feels like free heating but that's about it.
 
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I'm sorry, I know I brought up the weather earlier but it wouldn't be British without discussing it. Has anybody else seen any sign of this mythical heat wave? The BBC have been running headlines about it for the past couple of days but British weather seems to be its usual miserable self across most of the country.

I feel like the BBC are trying to gaslight us. And don't talk to me about next week 'cause it looks bloody miserable for most of that as well.
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It's hitting 27-30 here. It's fucking hot hot hot.
The American one lets them export beef into our market up to 20k tons tariff-free, though this goes for our beef producers as well so it evens out. (The American deal is probably the one good thing Starmer has done, it's fine to admit that.)
American beef is terrible. They fill it full of so much shit it messes up the kids. A lot of young girls are hitting puberty hard and fast because of the growth hormones in American beef.

All of these deals seem like we bend over backwards and spread our cheeks. None of it is ever in our favour. We just reduce our own territory and resources for no real gain. Giving up fishing rights on a bloody island with fish and chips being the national dish is incredibly stupid. Tell France to go fish niggers out of the ocean. If you roll them in corn flour and deep fry them they're a traditional African meal.
 
If I had to make a guess, it will kick off because of a blackout.
Not a bad guess, but my thoughts will be that the Far Left will Jo Cox anybody in authority who doesn't agree with them.
My guess is a Reform candidate gets Cox'd.

Just to add my two cents to our happy theory crafting on the coming apocalypse. I don't think a political assassination would necessarily have that effect on the UK as from my experience I found Brits to be relatively indifferent to political personalities, to the extent that I would have a hard time seeing even hard-line supporters of any party or movement taking up arms as a result of a political figure being killed.
Tommy Robinson might be an exception, and maybe Corbyn back when he was Labour leader, but even then would the resulting riots lead to outright state collapse? I'm not so sure. A major prolonged infrastructure failure would be more likely to cause unrest, but whether that would spread outside the local area is another matter.

What I think would pose a significant threat of outright state collapse in the UK would be a large scale Muslim chimpout, likely caused by a mass casualty event at either a Mosque or Islamic school. We know from how Muslims reacted to the Southport riots that many Mosques hold weapons that they can quickly distribute among gangs of Muslim men at a very short notice. Should a particularly bad attack against them occur, I think it is almost certain that they will go on a national scale rampage among white areas in cities with Muslim populations, killing and raping indiscriminately.
Unlike Southport nothing the government can do, short of sending in the army with orders to open fire with live ammunition, would be able to make them stop, and once the native population realises that and acts accordingly, then the state will have completely lost all control. I think for all their naive, wide-eyed, internationalist faggotry, the government understands this implicitly and is why Muslims in particular hold such sway over the state.

And just as a disclaimer to any MI5 or SO15 fags who may be reading; I am not a British citizen, I don't reside in your country, I don't want any of the above to happen, and you're also a faggot and should kill yourself.
 
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For a pleasing aside: the paki shop down the road isn't a paki shop any more. The guy behind the counter is ginger now. We did the dance of recognition.

This is one of the "jobs british people won't do". I like to think it's a sign of something. I'm not sure what, but it's a sign of something.
 
For a pleasing aside: the paki shop down the road isn't a paki shop any more. The guy behind the counter is ginger now. We did the dance of recognition.

This is one of the "jobs british people won't do". I like to think it's a sign of something. I'm not sure what, but it's a sign of something.
Glad to hear, although the ginger at my local shop is a fat, unhelpful slob.

Still a little bit of an improvement from a Paki, but not much!
 
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I once stood in a field in the vicinity of Reading (which is a significant improvement on standing anywhere within Reading itself) and I watched Pulp play Common People for the first time, around eight months prior to it being released as a single. Everyone went berserk. You could tell they were going to be massive. The band had been around for a while. They had albums out on Fire records and maybe one of the other indies. They had good songs - I liked She's Dead on Separations, but it never seemed like they would really break through. Island took a punt on them and it paid off. Their His 'N' Hers album sold well. Babies, Lipgloss and Do You Remember The First Time? all charted. If ever a band benefited from wider exposure to a live audience then it was Pulp. Jarvis is a very charismatic front man who engages with his audience like no-one else and wins them over. It is well worth delving into their albums as there are deep cuts that were never released as single. Their comeback record More is solid from start to finish. We've been spoiled recently with 90s groups like Blur and Stereolab returning with really strong material, equal to anything they released in their heyday. I am hoping Supergrass will follow suit. The new Suede album is looking good too.
 
For a pleasing aside: the paki shop down the road isn't a paki shop any more. The guy behind the counter is ginger now. We did the dance of recognition.

This is one of the "jobs british people won't do". I like to think it's a sign of something. I'm not sure what, but it's a sign of something.
Gingers are the biggest Muslim converts.

A Muslim chimp out would cause a massive shift in the overton window and would shift politics extremely far right over night. As soon as it becomes more than one guy in a van the country will change over night. I'm surprised the fathers of some of these rape gang victims haven't done it. If it was my kids I wouldn't be able to hold myself back from making the fire of London look like a barbecue.
 
I'm surprised the fathers of some of these rape gang victims haven't done it. If it was my kids I wouldn't be able to hold myself back from making the fire of London look like a barbecue.
That thought occurs to me a lot. My sister got battered by her first boyfriend and me and my pals at the time drove around our town in a van looking for him to...do what, I don't know, but we'd all got hammers at the time. The idea of someone doing that sort of thing to a child of mine and I'd probably just blow up their house. Or petrol through the letterbox at 2am and run them over as they ran out.
 
Gingers are the biggest Muslim converts.
Proselytising cults tend to seek out those most downtrodden by society. Being ginger is one of the few physical characteristics that it is still socially acceptable to make fun of, so gingers get all of the shit that would otherwise be spread around more evenly, which makes them unusually vulnerable to the sort of lovebombing that muslims engage in to harvest new recruits. It's a shit situation.
I'm surprised the fathers of some of these rape gang victims haven't done it.
Some did. They're in prison.
 
That thought occurs to me a lot. My sister got battered by her first boyfriend and me and my pals at the time drove around our town in a van looking for him to...do what, I don't know, but we'd all got hammers at the time. The idea of someone doing that sort of thing to a child of mine and I'd probably just blow up their house. Or petrol through the letterbox at 2am and run them over as they ran out.
What usually happens is any group of guys going out to sort someone out like that, depending on size, will usually have one in the group whose a nutter / more reckless than the rest, who is up for being the one to actually go in and use said hammer. They're not really needing as much of a reason as everybody else. What they need is a situation where the rest of the group condones it.

So it is with civil violence. It's not so much waiting for people to be angry enough to do something. It's waiting for them to be angry enough to let someone do something. That's why that woman is doing two years in prison for saying she didn't care if someone set fire to the hotels. The tipping point isn't someone burning down a hotel. There's always someone who'd like to do such things. The tipping point is the rest of society going "good".
 
Bob Vylan makes death threats at concert

So......how many years will this guy get ? If Lucy Connolly got 31 months ?

He called for death to a certain minority group live on our national broadcaster.

Other than one was online and one was on tv, but both in theory were on mass communication, I fail to see a difference.

Were all the members in the audience chanting the same thing back just as guilty ?
 
Bob Vylan makes death threats at concert

So......how many years will this guy get ? If Lucy Connolly got 31 months ?

He called for death to a certain minority group live on our national broadcaster.

Other than one was online and one was on tv, but both in theory were on mass communication, I fail to see a difference.

Were all the members in the audience chanting the same thing back just as guilty ?
Finally we're not alone in hating the IDF! We're mainstream and on the BBC!
 
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Bob Vylan sang “heard you want your country back? Hah, shut the fuck up” at Glastonbury.

 
Proselytising cults tend to seek out those most downtrodden by society. Being ginger is one of the few physical characteristics that it is still socially acceptable to make fun of, so gingers get all of the shit that would otherwise be spread around more evenly, which makes them unusually vulnerable to the sort of lovebombing that muslims engage in to harvest new recruits. It's a shit situation.
Sadly true, being part ginger (aka a Day walker) I got shit in the summer when the sun would bleach my hair semi ginger. To the point where I have died it ever since
 
Oh well, that will be the end of Glastonbury as a festival.

Labour seething, Eavis family under pressure.

RIP Glasto 1970-2025 - yes, I'll call it now, rainbow this all you like ;)

With regards to a Muslim 'chimp out', if a couple of Mosques go up in flames then definitely we are going to be looking at major problems.

At that point, Starmer may as well throw in the towel.
 
Gingers are the biggest Muslim converts.

A Muslim chimp out would cause a massive shift in the overton window and would shift politics extremely far right over night. As soon as it becomes more than one guy in a van the country will change over night. I'm surprised the fathers of some of these rape gang victims haven't done it. If it was my kids I wouldn't be able to hold myself back from making the fire of London look like a barbecue.
shhh....
That thought occurs to me a lot. My sister got battered by her first boyfriend and me and my pals at the time drove around our town in a van looking for him to...do what, I don't know, but we'd all got hammers at the time. The idea of someone doing that sort of thing to a child of mine and I'd probably just blow up their house. Or petrol through the letterbox at 2am and run them over as they ran out.
My Sister was abused by her boyfriend.
We took him off the street, drove to the very north of Scotland, stripped him naked and left him.
 
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