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You do realize that to utilize thorium you need plutonium right? This would then incentivize plutonium breeding and harvesting and if need be the government could seize the massive amounts of plutonium the thorium reactors would have to keep whenever and be able to build more nuclear weapons.
Looking past that though, your argument is retarded because we are talking about what is best for energy production and in regards to energy production thorium is the best thing we can work with until fusion is figured out. Additionally, the US invests in shit that can't be used for weapons all the time, you're just under the assumption that they don't.

Yes. But we can just dig up more uranium. How is thorium cheaper than digging up uranium, slightly enriching it, then dealing with the waste either by turning it into weapons or storage?
uraniums main benefit is that uranium reactor tech has a 60+ year lead on thorium reactor tech. it would take massive amounts of money, time, and effort to get thorium fission power to the point where uranium fission power is now. that's a big price to ask for very little upside in return.
the main benefit of thorium is that there is more of it than there is uranium. but that isn't a big concern, currently accessible uranium reserves will last hundreds of years, and if scarcity ever becomes a serious concern then there is always the option to run a breeder reactor + reprocessing fuel cycle, which effectively increases nuclear fuel efficiency by orders of magnitude, to the point where running out of uranium would essentially be impossible for over a thousand years.

That's not how civilian nuclear reactors work. Civilian nuclear reactors generate heat to boil water by letting refined uranium decay. The waste product at the end is barely useful in dirty bombs let alone for an actual nuclear bomb. Military Grade reactors use highly enriched uranium from the jump. This allows them to bleed off trace elements (like Plutonium). Its a far more complex procedure and one the Iranians didnt opt for.

They opted for the fuel refinement process which is laborious but less technical then a military grade reactor producing plutonium.
civilian reactors don't just "let uranium decay"
they make the uranium undergo a controlled fission chain reaction. the same type of reaction that happens in fission type nuclear bombs, but it happens slow and controlled rather than all at once in an explosive runaway reaction.
 
Yes. But we can just dig up more uranium. How is thorium cheaper than digging up uranium, slightly enriching it, then dealing with the waste either by turning it into weapons or storage?
Thorium is more common than uranium, is safer to mine, and we already have massive stockpiles of the shit just sitting around (not refined). All that has to be is melt down the shit that contains it so you get only thorium and expose it to plutonium so it picks up an extra neutron and turns from T-232 into T-233 and then through beta decay becomes U-233 which is very fissile.
 
I’ve lived in blue cities. I’d use public transport more often if it didn’t smell like shit and I didn’t have to be concerned about my kids getting stabbed by some meth head. I associate urbanists with misplaced funds and generally making my life harder. Or the cyclist that acts like a vehicle or a pedestrian, whatever is more convenient at that time.

A walkable city would be tolerable, and possible, if we could throw all the hobos over the border via trebuchet.
You have to realize blue state soys are basically aliens. I saw a tweet on Twitter a couple days ago from some stereotypical heavily tattooed LA whore talking about bottomless bums on the subway with "I don't care if my 6 year old son sees penises on the subway, what's like the big deal? It's just the human body, anyways Orange Man bad!"

If you're like me you probably think that's completely fucking insane but the urban bugman sees zero issues with shit like that.
 
uraniums main benefit is that uranium reactor tech has a 60+ year lead on thorium reactor tech. it would take massive amounts of money, time, and effort to get thorium fission power to the point where uranium fission power is now. that's a big price to ask for very little upside in return.
the main benefit of thorium is that there is more of it than there is uranium. but that isn't a big concern, currently accessible uranium reserves will last hundreds of years, and if scarcity ever becomes a serious concern then there is always the option to run a breeder reactor + reprocessing fuel cycle, which effectively increases nuclear fuel efficiency by orders of magnitude, to the point where running out of uranium would essentially be impossible for over a thousand years.
Exactly. That and uranium still has other uses, like armor and projectiles. What the fuck can you do with thorium for a reactor that doesn't even exist outside a few test cases?
Thorium is more common than uranium, is safer to mine, and we already have massive stockpiles of the shit just sitting around (not refined). All that has to be is melt down the shit that contains it so you get only thorium and expose it to plutonium so it picks up an extra neutron and turns from T-232 into T-233 and then through beta decay becomes U-233 which is very fissile.
But we already have uranium mines established, it is vital to national security for reasons stated above, and the reactors actually work. We don't need them.
 
uraniums main benefit is that uranium reactor tech has a 60+ year lead on thorium reactor tech. it would take massive amounts of money, time, and effort to get thorium fission power to the point where uranium fission power is now. that's a big price to ask for very little upside in return.
the main benefit of thorium is that there is more of it than there is uranium. but that isn't a big concern, currently accessible uranium reserves will last hundreds of years, and if scarcity ever becomes a serious concern then there is always the option to run a breeder reactor + reprocessing fuel cycle, which effectively increases nuclear fuel efficiency by orders of magnitude, to the point where running out of uranium would essentially be impossible for over a thousand years.
Thorium reactors are basically just a means of breeding U-233, which is less radioactive version of Pu-239
 
It is inconvenient to own a car, because cars are inherently inconvenient. They're expensive, they're money pits, they break, you need to find a place to park them,
Cars are great. I own seven and a boat and about to add a 48 Chevy to the fleet.

And yes, I’m smart enough to work on them all
 
I've always had the gut feeling Thorium was the redditor-tier power source, if it was so amazing compared to Uranium someone would have used it on a significant scale by now
redditors do have an irrational obsession with thorium power, yes
that doesn't mean that it's bad. overall it would likely be roughly comparable to uranium power. not much worse, not much better.

And anyone with a car has an easier time getting around than anyone without one in most places. The opposite of what you said is true. Over the last century, the automobile industry has gutted public transit. Major cities are better off than other places, but even there, it's a shadow of what it could be. The use of public transit isn't incentivized, it's ruthlessly stigmatized. The average person would have more power if public transit were more accessible. North America is owned & operated by the petroleum and automobile industries, who knew as early as the 1910s that their project would result in global warming and began aggressively misinforming the public about climate change as early as the 1970s. It will take years of public awareness campaigning to reverse the damage they've done.
you seem to have taken a wrong turn
reddit r/fuckcars is the other way
 
redditors do have an irrational obsession with thorium power, yes
that doesn't mean that it's bad. overall it would likely be roughly comparable to uranium power. not much worse, not much better.
The only country seriously invested in the idea is China so we'll have to see if they view the results of their first one to be satisfactory enough to start to build more.
 
Your amigdyla is acting up, don't let it turn you into a buck broken doomer. People have been saying this about every civilization since the dawn of time. Clown world is very real but if you spend your time on line your brain is being overexposed to it.

That said you might find this video interesting, he's a bit of a sperg himself but kind of touches on what you're talking about. I found it worth listening to.
Appreciate the kindness, if that is the correct word, but I wouldn't call myself a doomer (and I'm not sure of how to define doomer). But my point about the American death spiral is that with narratives created during World War 2+ framed us as the liberal West vs. Authoritarian [East?]. "If the Nazis were against gays and trannies, and America is aswell, were no better!" It about time that people say "Yes (chad emoji)" and stop scrambling to dodge these societal ghosts and no-go's. Not to say that America = Nazis but conservatism has only been giving ground to the left for a longggg time.

Also, Nick Fuentes is gay.
 
redditors do have an irrational obsession with thorium power, yes
that doesn't mean that it's bad. overall it would likely be roughly comparable to uranium power. not much worse, not much better.
Redditors support it because it's a form of nuclear power we don't have ready right now. Instead of actually solving our problems, it lets them push off actual solutions while pretending to want to fix things.
 
Appreciate the kindness, if that is the correct word, but I wouldn't call myself a doomer (and I'm not sure of how to define doomer). But my point about the American death spiral is that with narratives created during World War 2+ framed us as the liberal West vs. Authoritarian [East?]. "If the Nazis were against gays and trannies, and America is aswell, were no better!" It about time that people say "Yes (chad emoji)" and stop scrambling to dodge these societal ghosts and no-go's. Not to say that America = Nazis but conservatism has only been giving ground to the left for a longggg time.
The issues American conservatism has with being speed limit liberalism at times has been pointed out since at least the mid to late 19th century.

This text is from 1871:
It may be inferred again that the present movement for women’s rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, (Northern) conservatism.

This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution, to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.

American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader.

This pretended salt bath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted?

Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always, when about to enter a protest, very blandly informs the wild beast, whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance. The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip.

No doubt, after a few years, when women’s suffrage shall have become an accomplished fact, conservatism will tacitly admit it into its creed, and thenceforward plume itself upon its wise firmness in opposing with similar weapons the extreme of baby suffrage; and when that too shall have been won, it will be heard declaring that the integrity of the American Constitution requires at least the refusal of suffrage to donkeys. There it will assume, with great dignity, its final position.

President Trump is a good change of pace compared to a number of his predecessors and may act as the catalyst for what might come later. Politicians who are willing to act and not just provide lip service to a cause are needed. There is no lack of lawmakers who conserve nothing but their pay checks and little else. They need to be voted out when possible.

The American left is intent to drive the country into the ground while chasing after some delusional utopian idea. Their motivation to corrupt and destroy must be a matched by an even greater will from the right to save the United States and make it greater not just for themselves but for the generations to come.
 
Honest question why are black women seemingly so overrepresented as judges? IRL and in media. A judge is no fucking joke as a job, you'd expect to see a more demographically representative group.

It's pronounced "JERRGE" and it's the job black women were born for. Just saying things and being beholden to no one else for whatever they've said.
 
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