VTuber Sameko Saba 🐟 - Yoho!

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I'd never actually seen Gura do anything titillating on her streams except maybe the time she showed her feet, but I'd heard that she would retweet some pretty creepy fan art. I checked Saba's Twitter and she's already retweeted a picture of herself in the style of Brazilian Miku, ugh.

I will definitely not buy her merch.
 
At some point the pendulum on this kind of shit is going to swing back, right? Eventually there will be a lasting stigma for trying to touch this kind of pedo-adjacent demographic? Pretty please?

I'm disappointed and I don't even watch this girl. Modern internet culture is a fucking mistake. I can't fucking logic out a reason for someone like her to go full mental illness and push herself as this UOOOOOOOH lolicon disaster. I thought this kind of coombrained behavior was reserved for trannies and NEETs that eat chicken tendies and live in basements. But no, the face of it all, VTubing's Mickey Mouse, the only person to even somewhat break the normie barrier, turns into the kind of person that could get the police called on you if you tried to show her Xitter off in the real world.

I look at this and I begin to think that liking any form of VTuber at all is a one-way ticket to frying brain cells and losing touch with proper humanity. How some of you kiwis manage to watch them and not compeltely devolve into some kind of drooling retard, I shall never wrap my head around...
 
Not gonna complain here about the pedobaiting, whatever, this is you guy's thread, have fun here.

What I don't get is why she came back if she was stressed and could no longer handle being "the public face of hololive". Yes, you're not the public face of a corporation anymore but all of your old fans followed you to the new account so you're still in the public eye, your merch sold out in less than 5 minutes, you had a shitton of people watching your debut, I think you're being watched just as much.

I have seen the argument of her leaving hololive because she's deeply autistic and couldn't handle the attention anymore. Then what's the explanation here? I seriously thought she was giving it a rest for a while, but this return is for all intents and purposes immediate.
 
I will definitely not buy her merch.
I'm sure your patronage will be missed.
What I don't get is why she came back if she was stressed and could no longer handle being "the public face of hololive".
Because being the face of a company means there's certain expectations and pressures that come along with it. I don't understand how this is a difficult concept.
 
Not gonna complain here about the pedobaiting, whatever, this is you guy's thread, have fun here.

What I don't get is why she came back if she was stressed and could no longer handle being "the public face of hololive". Yes, you're not the public face of a corporation anymore but all of your old fans followed you to the new account so you're still in the public eye, your merch sold out in less than 5 minutes, you had a shitton of people watching your debut, I think you're being watched just as much.

I have seen the argument of her leaving hololive because she's deeply autistic and couldn't handle the attention anymore. Then what's the explanation here? I seriously thought she was giving it a rest for a while, but this return is for all intents and purposes immediate.
I think it was the corpo saying "You can't play X" "You can't stream with X" "You have to do all these concerts" "Oh we also want you to move to Japan to be closer to our headquarters."
 
At some point the pendulum on this kind of shit is going to swing back, right? Eventually there will be a lasting stigma for trying to touch this kind of pedo-adjacent demographic? Pretty please?
in anime/vtubing? no, itll never happen since this hobby is where the pedos can hide and deny their true predilications with "its an art style" and "shes 9000 yo".

Then what's the explanation here?
100% of the money instead of 2%-35%. also lazy ass doesnt have to get up and learn a dance routine and sing.
 
What I don't get is why she came back if she was stressed and could no longer handle being "the public face of hololive".
Keep in mind that that explanation is pure conjecture; she has never made any direct statements about why she left beyond "disagreements with management." We know she was frustrated about production issues with an original song that never ended up being released other than as a performance in a 3D show, to the point that she was venting in pre-stream chat about how it was never going to come out, for reasons we don't know.
 
I look at this and I begin to think that liking any form of VTuber at all is a one-way ticket to frying brain cells and losing touch with proper humanity.
I thought that was obvious. It's literally pretending you have an anime girlfriend.
 
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If she's a fish, why does she have cat ears?
Vtuber designs don't make sense or are clusterfucky just because. Cat ears are a generic cute thing. A lot of chuubas have animal ears (dog, cat, rabbit, cow) and horns, especially women. Men have spiky hairstyles or long ass hair for the same reason, it's the go-to attractive thing.

Did Gura make up any lore for this avatar or it's just "hi I'm a catfish"? Is that the joke?
 
@Abbadon's Gate @Blacklight I've seen @Null spill his spaghetti on many occasions, but he's been pretty reasonable on fish girl. maybe the intent on the crying crab is off the mark, but her fanbase is literally the cunny crew, and nothing other than copious amounts of cope (or lying) is gonna obscure that fact from anyone "living online" and is in the know what people say about this degen shit.

I agree with the dood who said that Gura has the personality of a dopey little sister, and has always come across as affable in that regard, but that dress toggle is definitely catering to a particular audience at this point. whether that's full-out peds; opportunistic pedos; people who generally just like things that are 'cute'; or people that get something out of the personality. the initial thing that kinda disturbed me wasn't even the dress. her head shape is kinda toddler coded, and I've been on 4chan long enough to see people post doujins where the artistic depictions look a little too close to what can be considered borderline reference material.

being a faggot and stating that one is "getting filtered" definitely feels like a creepy push of the overton window. but in general, there are just too many people that are unabashed about this shit at this point; I've never stepped foot in bluesky, so I'll take people's word on the creepy shit going on there, but on twitter, I see communities of people getting real weird about what shit they think is ok to say out loud.
 
Not gonna complain here about the pedobaiting, whatever, this is you guy's thread, have fun here.

What I don't get is why she came back if she was stressed and could no longer handle being "the public face of hololive". Yes, you're not the public face of a corporation anymore but all of your old fans followed you to the new account so you're still in the public eye, your merch sold out in less than 5 minutes, you had a shitton of people watching your debut, I think you're being watched just as much.

I have seen the argument of her leaving hololive because she's deeply autistic and couldn't handle the attention anymore. Then what's the explanation here? I seriously thought she was giving it a rest for a while, but this return is for all intents and purposes immediate.
Because that reason is total bullshit. None of these chicks are extremely shy and want a small audience - they want attention just like every other streamer. Its just another part of the act to attract sympathy from the autistic audience, so they will buy more merch. Its the same reason this new character is hard-core loli bait - money. She probably split off because the company was taking a larger cut of her merchandise sales and she knew she could have more control and profits on her own.
 
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@Abbadon's Gate @Blacklight I've seen @Null spill his spaghetti on many occasions, but he's been pretty reasonable on fish girl.
If you consider tilting at windmills reasonable I guess. Look, I like Null. I actually like him a lot. I've spent a ton of time on the website he's maintained and protected. I listen to MATI weekly. I think everyone posing to Uoooooooooh memes deserves a bullet. I hate pedophiles. I hate the anti-christ. I will not suck the girl dick. All that said, this just ain't it chief. The ask that you guys want me to go along with, is that the third highest earning V-Tuber in North America, debuted as an Anime Girl (Specifically Japanese style Animation), as an indie Idol (Idol being a Japanese Profession) with a ton of crab themed merch for her fans, and then using 蟹 which is the Japanese word "Kani" and means "Crab" to describe her fans. It is more on theme for her to be using the actual Japanese word for crab than it is for this to be some elaborate dogwhistle.

And lets be real here, the source for the idea of this being the "cunny crew" is like Britany fucking Venti right? One of the least creditable e-whores on the internet? Her entire schtick is teasing her 7/10 tits while saying provacative shit.

And while we're on the subject, lets talk about what a dogwhistle is. A Dog Whistle is using coded or suggestive language to garner support from a particular group right? Well I can't help but notice the only time anyone uses the phrase "Dog Whistle" is when they're accusing other people of doing it. It is effectively taking something someone else did or said and recontextualizing it to fit whatever narrative you think it should fit into, and frankly that's gay and I'm not gonna partake in it. It was gay when trannies and leftists started accusing everyone slightly right of center of dog whistling for nazi shit, and its equally gay when retards here start accusing everything that doesn't align with their personal tastes as being pedophilic, and that's in addition to Null's tweets right after Saba's debute just being wrong. Null does not watch anime. He does not like anime. He looks at anime, even normal anime and sees perversions in it. The dude has literally said that Cowboy Bebop had perverse shit in it on a MATI in the past. So when Null looks at what is a very common idol anime trope and immediately says its a pedophile dogwhistle, I'm sorry, Null doesn't know what he's talking about, and its very fucking annoying to have every other person who likes Null but doesn't like anime suddenly go hard in the mother fucking paint while having no idea what they're talking about either.

Its equally frustraiting because I know the arguments being made about all this if they were applied elsewhere wouldn't fly either. This is the same caliber argument as "Playing GTA will make you shoot up your school." Millions of people play video games, and an extremely small number of them shoot up schools, so we don't blame the game for it. Millions of people watched Saba's debute. I'm sure some of them were pedophiles, but do we ban V-tubers or models like her's because the twisted ones are gonna get off on it? What're we gonna hit up next? Comic Books haven't been shit on since the 80s. Or maybe we go old school and ban alcohol for enabling deviant behavior.

Or better yet, why don't we go after the Kiwi Farms as a whole? You know the Couch Cuck used to post here, if we're all guilty by association then I guess we're all at least a little school shooter adjacent. Or if not him, maybe we're all friends with The Gunt or Destiny. See how retarded this argument gets really fucking quick?

Its fucking stupid. I trust Null when it comes to a lot of the shit he says, but in this instance, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and the people who think he does are wrong.

Now all that being said: I did not like the fact she revaled her avatar's stomach. That was cringe and unnecessary and easily the biggest thing that turned me off of the whole stream, especially as someone who doesn't really care about her career and was just interested to see how many people showed up, and again anyone posting Uooooh memes gets the bullet.
 
In response to @Null crashing out about Saba on Twitter, people are posting apparent logs of him lusting after shota? I’m new to his lore but what a hypocrite if it’s true.
 

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In response to @Null crashing out about Saba on Twitter, people are posting apparent logs of him lusting after shota? I’m new to his lore but what a hypocrite if it’s true.
I'm like 99% sure those are fake and gay. I don't know that I've ever seen Josh go by "Joshua" nor have I ever seen him type like that, much less with the written emojis.
 
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I'm like 99% sure those are fake and gay. I don't know that I've ever seen Josh go by "Joshua" nor have I ever seen him type like that, much less with the written emojis.
Isn't that supposedly from when he was 16, or something?
 
Isn't that supposedly from when he was 16, or something?
I have no clue. There's plenty more damaging shit to throw around from when he was a teenager than accusing him of Shotacon. Its why these arguments are always so fake and gay.

Null goes on twitter and accuses a community of hundreds of thousands to millions of people of all being pedophiles or pedophile enablers and gets half the shit in his orignal tweet wrong, and then instead of laughing at him, people now start posting shit accusing him of being a pedophile, and more than likely a lot of the people posting that shit don't know if its true or not just like Null didn't have the facts right in his original post.

Its a cycle of stupid where no body wins.
 
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Always a great idea to shit on a large portion of your forum’s user base. It’s not like the vtuber thread is one of the most popular and active threads on here or anything.
 
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