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It sounded normal up until that last question, there it just turned into "ChatGPT, what should I ask during a work interview as a potential employer?"
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LOL
I said LLMs (not as a business tool but in general) because I ask it random shit that I can't be bothered googling/doing intermediate depth searching like how long does it take for weedkiller to kill a certain plant and he made a joke about how thats a good response because the weedkiller shows I take care of myself so hopefully when he feeds it back into chatgpt it tells him to hire me
The interview was with the helpdesk guy, an "IT Manager I" and two "IT Manager II"s and it was the IT manager I guy, and he said he liked the company because it took a chance on him out of the military without a degree or certs so we'll see lol
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Not if you're a few steps up the ladder and the same 5 companies poach from one another, well aware of rates and the general ebbing of the market. Actually justifying yourself at an interview is for poor people and lowlives. Like me. Either way, point is that once you're a few toes into a field and you know the general way upward, there's not much in way of discussion. Chances are you'll simply be replacing someone and you're more appealing than they were. "How much more do we have to pay?" and then some bullshittery to seal the deal.
Again, what do you ask people? You know what they'll be doing, you probably knew the guy they'll be replacing, but you don't actually know what made him be the way he was, so it's a vague way to basically find whoever is closest to who just left the company. This is the kind of fuckery that leads to "what would you do with an elephant? xd".
Ultimately, "just b urself", can't do much else. Obviously there's a level of fakery you need to put on just to imply you're doing more than your usual at this interview. Shit, being nervous might be that. Some people dress up way too much to compensate. Ultimately it's fucking RNG. I spoke to my new chëf and she said it's up the air whether people appeal to her or not. Whether it's before or after lunch. So, so many things. Best you can do is try to enjoy imagining yourself in these companies and keep improving your resume.
I'm surprised I even got this new job of mine. Applied to more or less the same position on repeat for 10-12 listings before I even got a single interview which turned out to be the one, but obviously it would've been grand if I got more than one interview throughout just to remind me that I'm somewhat useful.
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Probably going to spend my fourth of July resting since I have work off. The parade is going to be fun so I'll go see it with a friend or two 
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My ride is being repaired and it'll take a couple days. I missed it already. Life feels so hard without that piece of shit
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Recently graduated as a veterinarian. I’ve been leaving my CV everywhere I can think of for the past three months and am still unemployed. God, end me now.
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I've been around awhile. And I've almost always negotiated up my offered salary - sometimes due to market leverage, and sometimes due to personal leverage. (I've also gotten prospective hirees higher pay than the offer, or even the usual band for the role in certain situations; they raised the question tactfully, and at the appropriate time.) (And no, I am not in HR, but I have hired and been hired.)
But the time for negotiation is post-offer or post-"all 68 thousand people who interviewed you think you're God, and we'd love to have you here/ HR will be in touch in the next day or so" negotiation, always. Sure, say what you make/ what you'll get if you stay where you are, or what other jobs you're interviewing for pay - when they ask. But plopping down with "I need 30% more" before hands have even left the handshake formation is stupid.
In all but the rarest of situations (and maybe for certain industries, at certain pain-point times), anyone who walks into an interview as you described would be discarded immediately. Why? Because it shows poor judgment and is off-putting. And because a) anyone who has two minutes of managerial experience knows that that person will be a whiny baby and probably an embarrassment, and b) no one wants to work with thorough assholes, or at least not with assholes who don't know their place and when and to whom to be an asshole - even when the asshole tolerance is very high and there's money to pay whatever.
I concede that if you're talking a churn & burn place with critical and understaffed projects, maybe just wants a really, really good tech monkey who will never have to interact with anyone, could be different. ...Though in that case, as an interviewer, I'd still wonder why they had to interview for a job that is up-front advertising so much less than they want to get. But I get it: desperation, deadlines, and expiring budgets can make a smart (hiring) man make foolish choices and decide to deal with the fallout later.
Speaking of time and place and the wages of unvarnished arrogance: I still remember the guy who came in at a place I worked once. At the time, we paid top of the market in the top market, so very selective, but the place was growing FAST and was very aggressive about hiring, because they needed bodies - capable bodies, but bodies. And this guy came in as a very desirable hire, was given excellent pay and prospects. Within a week or so of starting, he was barking to the CAO that his office ceiling tile count was slightly lower than an existing employee's, despite that other person's being junior to him in experience (but with a few years at the place) and title designation. (Iirc, there was a support column that protruded slightly into his office.) Literally demanded the CAO come into his office while he pointed and counted and yelled about it.
He didn't last a week after that tantrum, need and talent be damned. ...And that place was (almost necessarily, tbh) full of assholes, so it was not a matter of delicate sensibilities. But there's a time and place, and walking in the door acting like a BSD isn't it, much less slinging demands before they're committed, and absolutely not at your screening or first-round interview. Not in 99% of situations.
All that said, totally agree that your in-the-door price is important, and I, like I said, have almost always negotiated up (not 30%, bc again that shows immaturity, deceit, and a mismatch at best). It's important to see what you can (reasonably) get once they want you, if you have any leverage at all, because in most types of organizations (other than those with lockstep increases), this year's salary is commonly bumped by a (low, though slightly variable for exceptional employees) percentage to get to next's, and absent a formal promotion, those increase % bands typically suck ass.
But the time for negotiation is post-offer or post-"all 68 thousand people who interviewed you think you're God, and we'd love to have you here/ HR will be in touch in the next day or so" negotiation, always. Sure, say what you make/ what you'll get if you stay where you are, or what other jobs you're interviewing for pay - when they ask. But plopping down with "I need 30% more" before hands have even left the handshake formation is stupid.
In all but the rarest of situations (and maybe for certain industries, at certain pain-point times), anyone who walks into an interview as you described would be discarded immediately. Why? Because it shows poor judgment and is off-putting. And because a) anyone who has two minutes of managerial experience knows that that person will be a whiny baby and probably an embarrassment, and b) no one wants to work with thorough assholes, or at least not with assholes who don't know their place and when and to whom to be an asshole - even when the asshole tolerance is very high and there's money to pay whatever.
I concede that if you're talking a churn & burn place with critical and understaffed projects, maybe just wants a really, really good tech monkey who will never have to interact with anyone, could be different. ...Though in that case, as an interviewer, I'd still wonder why they had to interview for a job that is up-front advertising so much less than they want to get. But I get it: desperation, deadlines, and expiring budgets can make a smart (hiring) man make foolish choices and decide to deal with the fallout later.
Speaking of time and place and the wages of unvarnished arrogance: I still remember the guy who came in at a place I worked once. At the time, we paid top of the market in the top market, so very selective, but the place was growing FAST and was very aggressive about hiring, because they needed bodies - capable bodies, but bodies. And this guy came in as a very desirable hire, was given excellent pay and prospects. Within a week or so of starting, he was barking to the CAO that his office ceiling tile count was slightly lower than an existing employee's, despite that other person's being junior to him in experience (but with a few years at the place) and title designation. (Iirc, there was a support column that protruded slightly into his office.) Literally demanded the CAO come into his office while he pointed and counted and yelled about it.
He didn't last a week after that tantrum, need and talent be damned. ...And that place was (almost necessarily, tbh) full of assholes, so it was not a matter of delicate sensibilities. But there's a time and place, and walking in the door acting like a BSD isn't it, much less slinging demands before they're committed, and absolutely not at your screening or first-round interview. Not in 99% of situations.
All that said, totally agree that your in-the-door price is important, and I, like I said, have almost always negotiated up (not 30%, bc again that shows immaturity, deceit, and a mismatch at best). It's important to see what you can (reasonably) get once they want you, if you have any leverage at all, because in most types of organizations (other than those with lockstep increases), this year's salary is commonly bumped by a (low, though slightly variable for exceptional employees) percentage to get to next's, and absent a formal promotion, those increase % bands typically suck ass.
Thread tax: Out of sorts, though I talked to my (young adult and spread across the country) kids today, which makes everything brighter. Looking forward to fireworks tomorrow for the Fourth with one of them*, and a really fancy dinner together later in the week.
* they invited me!
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Pretty good. I touched grass (foraged sand plums and mulberries,) got some sun and helped some turtles across the road.
Just little things but they got me vibing, at least.
Just little things but they got me vibing, at least.
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I fell into the downward spiral of questioning self-worth. I've been through a lot and have no reason to be down, but my momentarily fucked health is at that point where it allows the thoughts to seep in. I suppose being aware of that is a good sign.
Good times.
Good times.
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so my apartment building replaced the damaged lock for the laundry room with a high security 4-number lock.
Guess what the fucking code for it is. guess.
I'll give you a hint: you don't need to know where the apartment building is
Guess what the fucking code for it is. guess.
I'll give you a hint: you don't need to know where the apartment building is
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I'm alarmed to find that a security code of 1234 was more secure then i initially expected
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Oh no no no, don't tell me it was 0451.
Heh, we've got little black fuckers called Corsairs, they were a joy to use. I remember one time we found duct tape and decided to wrap one of those, expecting it to explode even stronger. We put it in an empty plastic bottle and ran away, but it ended up blowing its bottom away with a clean cut.
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It was 1234. When we saw the new lock that was the first thing we tried and it immediately worked. We assumed that they were going to change it once everyone got the message of what the new code was going to be, but then we got the message and yeah it's staying 1234
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Not that great. The place where I live, and its immediate vicinity, have gotten worse and worse over the years. Countless cunts moving in who can't shut the fuck up at night. But complaints to landlords and police fall on deaf ears. Could hire a PI and go through a lawyer trying to get this sorted out, but that is money and time invested into something I shouldn't try to fix, and I rather not waste both things on a lost battle. So I'm just going to move out. Which I can't because finding a new apartment for these last couple of months has been an exercise in frustration. Every time I find something that is affordable and not in a place invested with arabs, niggers, drunkards and other garbage it gets immediately taken off the market without me getting any response. Work is also annoying me immensely recently, even though the gig itself is pretty alright.
Feels like I am stuck and nothing is moving forward. Uncertainty with no way out.
Feels like I am stuck and nothing is moving forward. Uncertainty with no way out.
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There's a thing called CASA (Court Appointed Special Advocate) in all states/counties. Basically if you can pass a background check and do the training then you get assigned to kids in foster care and can talk to their foster parents and teachers and doctors. You can do something good for a kid in a shit situation they had no part in. Do it man. I'm one and spent last week in court pushing for kids who can't do it themselves. You'll learn to hate the system but here's your chance to help out a kid or three and be a constant in their life and, inshallah, do something good on this faggot planet. They always need more men bc it's women centric due to the nature of it but instead of being a lazy fuck who does nothing who gets MATI, you can fight the systems and help out some kids in a bad spot.
Give it a thought and spend the rest of your days serving those who have no voice. It's one of the few things that lets me rest my head at night.
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I feel like something is going to happen soon (no idea what though). The weather is really weird today (it's been a really cold winter, and now it's really cold but also hot at the same time somehow). Every time the weather behaves like that, shit happens.
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Just spilled ice tea all over my chromebook. Way to go me. 
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Sudden intense craving for spinach sauteed with garlic
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Reminder that the entire country is a free speech zone. 
happy 4th!
happy 4th!