Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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This always bugged me from the very first screenshots I saw.

Nothing is going to make New England into prime Patriot Front recruiting ground barring Sam Hyde somehow becoming a governor. New England is one of the only sections of the country the Feds actually care about the wellbeing of (because it's where most of the high ranking ones come from). It's been the strongest bastion of shitlibbery in the US for the past two centuries and is home to most of the Ivy League, which was ground zero for <insert synonym for progressive insanity here> in America and whose students would sooner join a black bloc than a thinly-veiled neo-fascist movement.
Yea, its clearly just for gameplay reasons:
  • The midwest is already claimed by Trump.
  • Florida has AWD
  • The South has the League of the South, which will probably expand throughout Texas, New Mexico etc once they get their focus tree, so you can't put them there either
  • South East Coast is expansion territory for AWD/League if the South
  • Central East Coast would mean they share a border with AWD/League of the South before they fight Biden, which it seems like the dev's don't want, to give the National Front a small challange at the start of joining the main war
  • Northern West Coast would put PF in a fight with APLA before either of the establishment nations
This pretty much just leaves you with New England, unless you want to put them into Alaska, Hawaii and Gitmo.
Potentially, if you prefered "realism", you could have fused NSM with PF and give them Michigan and some of the Northern Midwest or the Great Lakes area (taking some territory from Biden but giving him New England instead).
Alternativly, since you pointed out the feds liking New England, making an intelligence agency state in New England would have been sick. Making them soft-aligned with Biden and giving them decissions to meddle with each faction and potentially couping & controlling Biden/the Dems (moreso than OTL) or a full on glowie nation sorta like Burgundy, but without the world ending part....
 
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Even more news, the US as a whole is getting reworked. No more NPP! https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1lricq3/development_diary_xxx_yippie_part_14/
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At this point, I stopped giving a shit about the mod once I saw the German rework and South African War getting pulled. This is why you stick to the vision your mod originally set out to be. Of course, the new mod devs are a bunch of estrogen-drugged, neoliberal faggots that can't write a good story. Except Steve going across Russia, that's pretty good.
 
At this point, I stopped giving a shit about the mod once I saw the German rework and South African War getting pulled. This is why you stick to the vision your mod originally set out to be. Of course, the new mod devs are a bunch of estrogen-drugged, neoliberal faggots that can't write a good story. Except Steve going across Russia, that's pretty good.
I''m already seeing Predditors on the TFR subreddit talking about how the mod is pro-Z, plus them levying bad content like the NSM on Czar and his circle reminds me of the Frontier for New Vegas saying all the fetish shit was the work of a few people that got kicked out. The RU-TFR dev lead is from Lugansk so he's seen Xoxols bomb the two regions for the last 10 years while shitlib media has been singing the praises of Poroshenko and Zelensky to ZOGbots in the West. Now when those ZOGbots who more likely than not already hate RuZZia for not letting trannies and fags roam free come into contact with something that challenges their narrative, no matter where it originates from, they feel that they HAVE to change it. Now sprinkle that in with Discord and I suspect the RU-TFR team will get Shoah'd and be replaced by a team of queers from Berlin, Kyif, and Portland to REWOOOOOOOORK Russia's content.
 
The leaks on /vst/ were real and sincere, this is genuinely hilarious. They even kept the insane bullshit about Americans gassing Britain and the fanboying for Gus Hall. In seven years when the VN that this update is finally comes out, you’ll be able to end the world when Rethuglican President Jerry Falwell nukes the world for Jesus [this was a real part of the leaks btw]

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Even more news, the US as a whole is getting reworked. No more NPP! https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1lricq3/development_diary_xxx_yippie_part_14/
The only vaguely interesting gimmick this nu-TNO scenario has is having Alaska and Hawaii having reversed voting blocs. Alaska becoming a Blue state due an influx of Soviet refugees and Hawaii staying as a Red state because the sugar cane plantations remained is not a bad idea. But they would be better explored in a standalone novel than a fucking Post-Axis Victory Cold War alternate history scenario.

Who am I even kidding. None of this shit will even be playable. Content up to 1977? Bullshit. More like one year of demo content next year Fall.
 
I''m already seeing Predditors on the TFR subreddit talking about how the mod is pro-Z, plus them levying bad content like the NSM on Czar and his circle reminds me of the Frontier for New Vegas saying all the fetish shit was the work of a few people that got kicked out. The RU-TFR dev lead is from Lugansk so he's seen Xoxols bomb the two regions for the last 10 years while shitlib media has been singing the praises of Poroshenko and Zelensky to ZOGbots in the West. Now when those ZOGbots who more likely than not already hate RuZZia for not letting trannies and fags roam free come into contact with something that challenges their narrative, no matter where it originates from, they feel that they HAVE to change it. Now sprinkle that in with Discord and I suspect the RU-TFR team will get Shoah'd and be replaced by a team of queers from Berlin, Kyif, and Portland to REWOOOOOOOORK Russia's content.
I hope it doesn’t go down that route. TFR hasn’t knelt to shitlibs yet and they explicity said that removing Atomwaffen is off the table and one of the shitlibs main complains is that the Atomwaffen is a playable unifier. If they can keep the TND experts in, I think they’ll keep the mildly pro-russian bias in the mod. Again I could be wrong, but TFR was the most interesting thing in the HOI4 Mod community for a long while now so I’m holding my breath.
 
I hope it doesn’t go down that route. TFR hasn’t knelt to shitlibs yet and they explicity said that removing Atomwaffen is off the table and one of the shitlibs main complains is that the Atomwaffen is a playable unifier. If they can keep the TND experts in, I think they’ll keep the mildly pro-russian bias in the mod. Again I could be wrong, but TFR was the most interesting thing in the HOI4 Mod community for a long while now so I’m holding my breath.
The best thing TFR devs can do to make TrooNOs happy is if they make UN content playable. Those fuckers switched up from Vaush "leftists" to Destiny neolibs when Panzer stepped down.
 
Even more news, the US as a whole is getting reworked. No more NPP! https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1lricq3/development_diary_xxx_yippie_part_14/
Well, I guess the vote pig leak was correct. Definitely will not be out next year as they plan. I do hope they can make it work and not get bogged down like the TT3 update (which is now mostly a waste of effort) constantly adding in new features. I think, while the dev team and the fandom have a lot to be criticised for, I don't have too much a problem with them moulding the mod into a cold war simulator/realistic depiction of an Axis-US cold war, HOI4 is a wargame but imo I do think as the US you really do feel you are leading a nation in the cold war. I do get the desire for realism/plausibility to an extent (something like cutting the GCW is dumb or completely cutting the South African war). I don't have really any expectation for the mod's content, the panzer vision of having full 1960s - 1980s content is never going to happen so if these reworks improve the mod then I'm alright with it.
 
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The leaks on /vst/ were real and sincere, this is genuinely hilarious. They even kept the insane bullshit about Americans gassing Britain and the fanboying for Gus Hall. In seven years when the VN that this update is finally comes out, you’ll be able to end the world when Rethuglican President Jerry Falwell nukes the world for Jesus [this was a real part of the leaks btw]

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Also WTF happens in 76? What is the Republican part finding out? Also the timeline is a bit wonky. I though Schflay was a 72 president. I was going to say even as a one term president it does not make sense unless the flowchart is implying the U.S has a revolving door of presidents/leaders because of the hag.
 
I''m already seeing Predditors on the TFR subreddit talking about how the mod is pro-Z, plus them levying bad content like the NSM on Czar and his circle reminds me of the Frontier for New Vegas saying all the fetish shit was the work of a few people that got kicked out. The RU-TFR dev lead is from Lugansk so he's seen Xoxols bomb the two regions for the last 10 years while shitlib media has been singing the praises of Poroshenko and Zelensky to ZOGbots in the West. Now when those ZOGbots who more likely than not already hate RuZZia for not letting trannies and fags roam free come into contact with something that challenges their narrative, no matter where it originates from, they feel that they HAVE to change it. Now sprinkle that in with Discord and I suspect the RU-TFR team will get Shoah'd and be replaced by a team of queers from Berlin, Kyif, and Portland to REWOOOOOOOORK Russia's content.
Even being radically Pro Ukrainian I like TFR's Russia content, probably some of the best in the mod. I just want Ukraine to have content so I can go all Azov Brigade on the ziggers.
 
Also WTF happens in 76? What is the Republican part finding out? Also the timeline is a bit wonky. I though Schflay was a 72 president. I was going to say even as a one term president it does not make sense unless the flowchart is implying the U.S has a revolving door of presidents/leaders because of the hag.
It makes a whole lot of sense when you realize Schalfy is basically just their Trump stand-in.
 
Even being radically Pro Ukrainian I like TFR's Russia content, probably some of the best in the mod. I just want Ukraine to have content so I can go all Azov Brigade on the ziggers.
Luckily for you, the TVTroons page for TFR says that the Russian speakers in East Ukraine get buckbroken after an EU victory in the 1EW, and when Ukraine gets content you'll be able to decide how harshly they're repressed.
Heil Bandera, nigga.
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It makes a whole lot of sense when you realize Schalfy is basically just their Trump stand-in.
I won't fault them entirely for that. IRL She managed to live just to see Trump and was a big supporter of his and wrote a boook called "the conservative case for Trump" since this was that the time when his popularity was weakest with the GOP being a new comer and he does sorta act like an idiot. She mostly seems to mirror his policy in the game (no idea how the IRL Schflay felt) in that she thinks America should bunker down with nukes and do nothing to help other nations. Letting Japan and German run amok and free as she wants to do culture stuff at home (of which I know she did do that IRL).

I also found this from the newest dev diary. Well actually it was a link on the dev diary about another comment.
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I kinda forgot how stupid Votepig and Mango are. The chucking Britbong refugees sounds comically evil. Even if they try to explain it away to not make the U.S seem as bad... actually given the Haiti autism and rant maybe they DO want the U.S to look bad. Like why were they even gassing the isles? Personally I felt Operation Sealion working is a bit of a stretch but I won't activate that monkey's paw as we've seen what happens.
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The gassing lore was in the works for two years according to the timestamps and even back then people hated it. A lot of it might be done cause of the new Britbongteam they hired those 2-3 years ago.
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And sorta repeats my own criticism that it feels like its people having an axe to grind against U.S OTL policy during the cold war towards their beloved leftists but did not get the memo this is an alternate history.

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Funny enough despite what the discord screen shot says there was a dev trying to deny it too.


Who knows or cares who is actually in the right as the devs constantly fight all the time and change lore behind each other's backs to get their politics and narratives pushed.
 
I''m already seeing Predditors on the TFR subreddit talking about how the mod is pro-Z
Obviously is, and it goes further than just writing everyone sympathetically from their own POV. TFR has a very inexplicable bias against liberalism and Europe. It's one thing that Russia is so absurdly powerful (It was generally expected that Russia would be capable of what it does in TFR before 2022), but another to completely gloss over what it entails. The EU's peace treaty against Russia is represented as some kind of grave injustice that requires Russia to go to war against Europe, even if Navalny comes out on top. Navlany being railroaded into a war with the EU is absurd, basically a meme path on the level of Senhor Hilter. When the EU is authoritarian, it is some wild killpeopleist fantasy (Schwaub) or when the US goes under Bloomberg, he turns the country into some kind of weird Cyberpunk parody. I don't mind these concepts in theory (Schwaub's EU is probably the best writing in TFR IMO), but when Zhirinovsky's Russia or the USSR (let alone Medvedev's Russia) don't get any of the treatment that post-liberal authoritarian paths get, it's incredibly hard to say that TFR isn't biased.
Even being radically Pro Ukrainian I like TFR's Russia content, probably some of the best in the mod. I just want Ukraine to have content so I can go all Azov Brigade on the ziggers.
I don't want to be a contrarian for the sake of it, but TFR's Russia feels like a massively missed opportunity. It's definitely a product of its time in terms of its setup - The content is based off the idea that the only way for things to happen in Russia is for Putin to die and that Putinism is somehow anti-nationalist and definitely not authoritarian (both entirely understandable premises before 2022). United Russia and Putin's circle is treated as this one amalgous blob that all rally behind Medvedev as their guy who they back until the end where the really interesting part of a post-Putin Russia would be the various power struggles inside YR. Instead of one Medvedev path with various "endings" that have other leaders, the main paths for Russia should branch off figures like Mistushin, Zolotov, Shoigu, Naryshkin, Bortnikov (reshuffle the deck with others as needed) and that's if Putin doesn't die (Putin should be the primary path for Russia IMO). Honestly, the opposition (especially the systemic opposition like KPRF and LDPR) shouldn't get paths before 1EW. Liberal opposition would prevent the European Wars and other forms are too weak, systemic opposition wouldn't even factor into anything really. KPRF, LDPR and SR are only capable of influencing and steering Putin's policy, but not replacing Putin. SR even essentially gave up the idea of replacing Putin, instead seeking to replace YR because the YR's and Putin's dominance is so cemented. Maybe a SR-led Putin path would be a cool idea as a way to have an alternative Putin.

Now, FWIW, TFR has executed its flawed setup extremely well and is obviously based on different ideals than what I would make in a TFR - I probably wouldn't bother with making Svetov and Dugin paths at all, but I can't deny that TFR has managed to make it more interesting than I would first think.
How come Trump keeps the "45-47" on his hat if he never steps down from being de facto president? Immersion ruined, will be booting up TNO.
Well, this is obviously basically carried over from TLM. Having the USA behave like this when there is no reason to is purely there just to make the USA less likable because the USA is capitalist and that's still bad, mmkay?
 
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