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Should be a wild four years.

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JayseeDenton said:
I think the left knows this which is why they try so hard to silence any amount of racism or xenophobia and also kiss migrants asses so hard. They know these people need a red carpet or they won't stay.
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I don't think they do. Communists always need actual men to fight for them, since they are a bunch of broken, loser, pussies. This is why you see Dems constantly going to bat for criminals while letting universally recognized injustices slide with little commentary. They think that these criminals will be their muscle in actual conflict. For example, before he was a Soviet muckity muck, Joe Stalin was a bank robbing gangster.

If they understood, as you lay out, how opportunistic all of the scum they import are, they wouldn't bother so much. They legit think that Venezuelan gangs will put down roots and then try to defend their claims, making them an asset in civil conflict, when really, they'll move on as soon as it stops being profitable and starts costing them blood.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
At this point it is only fair and reasonable that the leftoid enablers are deported together with their brown pets. I'm pretty much done accomodating people that hate me, want my resources, want to deny me rights, censor my speech and will kill me for what I am. Just give them free helicopter rides.
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The only reason I disagree with this is that the sad truth about all this is that for many of them (not the kind you engage with online but many less engaged liberals) all of this does come from a good place, it's just manipulated and mixed with ignorance. Sympathy for the weak is a strength, it's one of the best things about white people/westerners etc. Not only is it morally righteous it's part of why our society works. Finding a place for everyone was crucial to building society into something that catered to more than just the biggest fuck in the village.

I promise you, for most liberals as far as race relations go it's still 1995. They've never had to deal with this shit directly. They assume browns are just people who are being taken advantage of because that's what the institutions tell them is happening. Wanting to stand against that kind of "oppression" and "unfairness" is in the very spirit of what made European cultures great. Of course you and I know it's not "oppression" of any kind, but most liberals have no idea (though that's rapidly changing).

The problem is the forces that have completely suppressed the news, data, discussion, and so on that tell the truth about what's going on or at least shine a bit of light on the other side of it. I have a soft spot for people, especially women, wanting to take care of the (perceived) weak and abused. The ones I will never forgive are the ones that have intentionally hi-jacked that beautiful trait and weaponized it against us. University heads, hollywood, celebrities, and the news I think are the biggest offenders though it's kind of all over the place. And given the degree to which this has "emperor's new robes" itselfed into society it's sometimes hard to tell who's holding the gun to who's head on this vs who really believes it.

Also it will unfortunately be difficult to seperate the "we had no idea this was going on" ones from the "we knew exactly what we were doing" because i think the former category is far larger, and the latter category will no doubt try to blend in with the former when they realize the grift is over.
 
Sneed Lurker said:
The Redditors are also posting out of context Old Testament bible verses to own the conservachud nazis. Link
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I can also quote out of context bible verses too!
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other verses in leviticus just as well dictate that foreigners are to follow the same laws as their israelite fellows lest they be punished or cast out just the same. it is not a boilerplate direction to tolerate foreigners and all they do.
 
Henny Queen said:
other verses in leviticus just as well dictate that foreigners are to follow the same laws as their israelite fellows lest they be punished or cast out just the same. it is not a boilerplate direction to tolerate foreigners and all they do.
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Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lᴏʀᴅ your God. --Leviticus 24:22
 
JayseeDenton said:
And in this metaphor "blasting one" doesn't have to be literal or even be state enforced deportations, it just needs to be visual resistance to their bullshit. Symbolic. They see white people as infinite producers of gibs, easy targets to rob if needbe, easy pussy, and a native population that will never treat them the way even their own native populations do. If they see more protests like in london, if they see people getting enraged over laken riley, if they see mean comments on the internet not getting censored, if they have the slightest inkling that even 30% of the white population might be getting fed up they're gone. Suddenly these countries aren't an easy opportunity but something that might pose a slight risk. Actually for a significant % it's as easy as turning off the gibs.

I think the left knows this which is why they try so hard to silence any amount of racism or xenophobia and also kiss migrants asses so hard. They know these people need a red carpet or they won't stay.
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The left lost control of the media so they can't censor this as whitey realizes that the ones that want the blacks and browns gone are the majority and the media is lying

@pwnest injun Blacks and Browns for all their bravado can't fight, we know that, the left doesn't.
 
Kiwi Lime Pie said:
NGL, I have no idea if entering the country illegally is a felony, misdemeanor, or a civil infraction. It's still illegal conduct that shouldn't be rewarded. If many people are being honest, they'd rather someone whose only offense is illegal entry be removed before they commit additional crimes and not after.
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It's a misdemeanor the first time, and a felony every time after that. The latter meaning you'll never be able to legally enter the US for the rest of your life.

If you ask me, getting caught once should be a felony, it will encourage more self-deportations.
 
Ravier Xavenblood said:
They'll still be whining about GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAATE decades from now. Never forget it was the first organized, large scale rebellion against their subversion.
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This, had they just left Vidya and other entertainment media alone in the early 2010s they could have done most of what they wanted without much blowback, especially considering how hard the religous right railed against the medium in the 90s, unfortunately for them they chose to make a slight fuck up and turned a lot of 15-35 males at the time against their bullshit
 
CarlKingofDucks said:
Its times like these I wish I were a biblical scholar just to own some people.
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The best thing is to just make up bible verses to make these faggots prove their own retardation. Because libtards don't look at primary sources or statistics, they do whatever screen man says.
"In those days the dark and the light did battle. In that battle they found the sole gift from the almighty bring them in holy union the holy funko pop - Redditceasians 5:07
 
Ravier Xavenblood said:
They'll still be whining about GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAATE decades from now. Never forget it was the first organized, large scale rebellion against their subversion.
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All we wanted was for game developers to stop fucking the critics for good reviews.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
2008 basically fucked the political right to a point where they had to push further right but also find a way to appeal still mostly apolitical people and we saw that fully manifested in 2016
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Republicans after 2008 started the groupthink that the way to win people back from the democrats was to move further to the left and try and be more 'inclusive' and open. I recall being at the Disney Yacht club restaurant watching the Olympics and then Romney picked Ron Paul while I was eating breakfast. I just was so dejected at how milquetoast the choice and overall state of the party was. John Boehner for all his flaws kept the party from collapsing. Trump comes along and easily defeats establishment pick Jeb! and proceeds to change history.

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Myrtle the Turtle said:
Republicans after 2008 started the groupthink that the way to win people back from the democrats was to more further to the left and try and be more 'inclusive' and open. I recall being at the Disney Yacht club restaurant watching the Olympics and then Romney picked Ron Paul while I was eating breakfast. I just was so dejected at how milquetoast the choice and overall state of the party was. John Boehner for all his flaws kept the party from collapsing. Trump comes along and easily defeats establishment pick Jeb! and proceeds to change history.

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Does neutering yourself or the product to get more mass market appeal ever work?
 
Breadbassket said:
Quite a few Protestant churches and denominations have been infiltrated or corrupted in the last few decades. That sticker is from a place affiliated with the United Methodist Church, which has recently has had a schism relating to allowing gay marriage and LGBTQ clergy. A number of more conservative congregations went off to do their own thing while the UMC has gone all in on homosexual acceptance.
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To add to that, a lot of draft dodging Boomers couldn't get into college back in the sixties and seventies, but could get into Seminaries, as well as Communists and Socialists actively infiltrating both Catholics and Protestant churches. Marxism is best thought of as a secular religion, replacing God with the State, so religion either has to go or has to conform to the State, especially as it's one of the bulwarks against Progressive madness. They took over the seminaries, then pushed progressive pastors, but slowly, and since the Boomer laity was mostly fine with the Cult of Niceness, they didn't notice until too late. Some denominations handle it better than others, Catholicism is a bureaucracy that's always slow to change and it's size helps, a lot of Reformed Protestant denominations still resist progressiveness, God love the Calvinists they're good at being stubborn at the very least. Wildly, the Methodists are the mainline denomination that held out the longest. Shit, we might have even have been able to cut the progressives out if COVID hadn't fucked things up and let them rally.

Basically, Boomers wanted Churches to be a social club that wasn't hard on anyone, because, shockingly, the most spoiled generation in history doesn't like to be told no. The Progs used that to slowly boil the frog. Add to that Gen X's distrust of authority and Millennials push back against their Boomer parents hypocracy and making them go to church on Sundays, and it's a perfect storm. Zoomies seem to have an interest in returning, I assume rooted in pissing off Millennials and a search for meaning, but the faithful Zoomers want a church with some teeth. Turns out the hedonistic treadmill is as utlimately unsatisfying as the Good Book said it was, who ever would have guessed.
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
Republicans after 2008 started the groupthink that the way to win people back from the democrats was to more further to the left and try and be more 'inclusive' and open. I recall being at the Disney Yacht club restaurant watching the Olympics and then Romney picked Ron Paul while I was eating breakfast. I just was so dejected at how milquetoast the choice and overall state of the party was. John Boehner for all his flaws kept the party from collapsing. Trump comes along and easily defeats establishment pick Jeb! and proceeds to change history.

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The Conservatives in Canada are doing pretty much the same thing where they offered up a watered down version of shitlib politics and wonder why they lose.
 
Marvin said:
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The fuck is wrong with modern Christian churches? A lot of them seem to have gone super rainbow woke.
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Entryism. A long standing Marxist tactic. Join a group and pervert it towards your own ends.

Mao, specifically, pioneered this tactic. "All cultural institutions must be reformed to serve the interests of the revolution or be burned to bedrock so the enemies of progress cannot use them." It's why the left constantly targets pop culture, academia, media... Because if it's not directly benefiting the alt-left, it MUST be changed so it does or destroyed. Since they don't actually give a shit about anything, they're fine with things being destroyed.

We saw this with media, books, tabletop, video games... all kinds of pop culture stuff. They don't actually give a shit about say, D&D or Warhammer 40k. Not really. But they're very very interested in making damned sure you don't have a hobby where you can escape their eternal revolution. They were pretty blatant about it on a DC comics panel, they were talking about how things might be pushing back against the left's cultural changes in comics but they had to make damned sure to make them permanent and as hard if not impossible to fix before they were forced out.

It's not incompetence. Not all of it. If they can't make it progressive wokeshit, they'll destroy it to make sure you can't fix it or offer an alternative to the wokeshit.

Your church? It's no different than comic books, YA novels, what have you to them. It will either be changed to be an indoctrination machine for the alt-left, or they'll destroy it so you can't enjoy your faith in peace, because otherwise church might give you an alternative to alt-leftist institutions and beliefs, and that cannot be allowed. You MUST engage with the revolution. Your kids MUST be raised to think 36 genders and homosexuals masturbating in front of them during parades celebrating how much they love dicks in their asses is normal.

To wit: If you tried to do a Christian "Pride" parade during some Christian holy day, they will INSIST that you include special call outs to leftists. You'll HAVE to celebrate faggot Christians or Nigger Christians. You can't just celebrate God and Faith and Family. You HAVE to celebrate THEM, and if you don't, they'll have a fucking meltdown over it and do whatever they can to destroy what you're doing.

You'll note they never, ever, EVER try this with Judaism, however. The absolute second they tried to skittles squad Jewish institutions they'd be shut down so fast they wouldn't even understand it. In fact, they probably already have been, repeatedly, and they've just learned not to even try.
 
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