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[Oddjob OTP]

Is ROUNDABOUT the best anime ending song of all time? I think it even beats out Shouchi no Suke for One Piece and Naruto's OG ending song.

Personally I vote "FRY ME TO DA MOON" from NGE

More seriously, big fan of the ending of Golden Kamuy season 2

 

[HexFag]

Is ROUNDABOUT the best anime ending song of all time? I think it even beats out Shouchi no Suke for One Piece and Naruto's OG ending song.

Not even close:

I could do this shit all day.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Not even close:

I could do this shit all day.

I love the Hex Maniac too.

 

[McMitch]

Is ROUNDABOUT the best anime ending song of all time?

This is correct, but solely by merit of being a Yes song and thus musically better than the IV V iii vi progression of literally every other anime song. However, Roundabout is nowhere near the best Yes song; it’s not even the best song in Fragile.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

This is correct, but solely by merit of being a Yes song and thus musically better than the IV V iii vi progression of literally every other anime song. However, Roundabout is nowhere near the best Yes song; it’s not even the best song in Fragile.

"literally every other anime song", we also have Walk Like an Egyptian by the Bangles, Last Train Home by Pat Methany, I Want You, Freek'N You by Jodeci, Modern Crusaders by Enigma, and Distant Dreamer by Duffy.

 

[McMitch]

"literally every other anime song", we also have Walk Like an Egyptian by the Bangles, Last Train Home by Pat Methany, I Want You, Freek'N You by Jodeci, Modern Crusaders by Enigma, and Distant Dreamer by Duffy.

All of these are inferior songs to the fuckin’ two years Yes was putting out banger albums.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

man i like am i think one that idk i fucking love seikon no qwaser i know like haha tit mile i like yea ok bro i sometime bro i fucking love sucking some tits sometimes too im a fucking baby i got them milk teeth you feel i genuinely its one of teh best anime i have watched i genuinely love it my first ever real crush sent it me and still like sometimes i go back and watch it for good old time sake na dhonestly yea ok fucking retaded concept but liek you know what i mena shits got a fucking specidl place in my heart and actulla goes pretty hard shit stands us even aft er the time thas been gone by you feel i fucking love the show i dont care i fucking love tits and boobs and i woudl do thta same i am sick of preentding that shit font do fucking hard as all hell

 

[AnsemSoD1]

man i like am i think one that idk i fucking love seikon no qwaser i know like haha tit mile i like yea ok bro i sometime bro i fucking love sucking some tits sometimes too im a fucking baby i got them milk teeth you feel i genuinely its one of teh best anime i have watched i genuinely love it my first ever real crush sent it me and still like sometimes i go back and watch it for good old time sake na dhonestly yea ok fucking retaded concept but liek you know what i mena shits got a fucking specidl place in my heart and actulla goes pretty hard shit stands us even aft er the time thas been gone by you feel i fucking love the show i dont care i fucking love tits and boobs and i woudl do thta same i am sick of preentding that shit font do fucking hard as all hell

I love Nami-Swan, her and Robin-Chan, and most importantly Yamato-chan, make my dick really hard and wet.

 

[God of Nothing]

I love Nami-Swan, her and Robin-Chan, and most importantly Yamato-chan, make my dick really hard and wet.

coom before you post

 

[terraform45]

Currently watching fullmetal alchemist (2003) Honestly not as bad as many say it is
I bought a physical copy of the sequel movie so i will watch that as soon as i am done
That way i can resume my DBZ marathon lol

 

[Space Police]

Not sure if this belongs in the Q&A section of this board (as this is a really stupid question), but at any rate, given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?

AUTISTIC VENTSLOP AHEAD

He's not wrong that anime is direct, but he's wrong that the appeal is in autism. From what I've seen, a lot of the appeal is that anime offers stories rooted in Japanese mythology and religion, but with those overt Japanese elements stripped away and replaced with sci-fi or Western culture. Nobody likes anime for bug-eyed characters with easy-to-read faces and recognizable hairstyles or constant exposition, and not everyone likes anime for goonslop. People like anime for giving them stories nothing like the Christian/pagan myth-inspired stuff they've seen before. It's a bit like a white person exploring Buddhism and coming to think Buddhism is so deep and flawless just because it's different from Abrahamic religion. This is why old movies and OVAs are so compelling -- there's a post on this site that talks about how even stuff like Saber Marionette and Gowcaizer make the effort to draw from various social issues, Asian myths, and religions. Even low-rated/disliked anime, like Samy Missing 99, Legend of Duo, ICE, and 6 Angels, are enjoyable to me for these reasons. Even highly sexual shows like Aquarion, Divergence Eve, or Virus Buster Serge can be good if they create a story and world by blending several real-life myths, religions, and social issues together in an intelligent and creative way. However, being able to recognize this means you should realize that anime isn't as good or original as you thought -- it just came from a different culture --, and so you shouldn't place it on such a high pedestal.

Does watching anime make you lesser? Maybe, but I honestly don't know anymore at this point. I recently met a guy in orchestra, and he meets every benchmark of success. He's good at his instrument, and he's doing very well in a competitive STEM field (not computer science or engineering btw). He's also really into CGDCT anime and watches a Vtuber, which surprised me. He doesn't come across as a pedophile, a hentai consumer, or a closet tranny, but he is Asian. When he talks about his favorite slice of life anime, he doesn't talk about how "cute" the girls are or whatever; he tells me that he wrote essays in high school exploring the themes of each episode. He's undeniably better adjusted and less autistic (both in the actual sense and the funny Kiwi Farms sense) than me as well. I wish Der Kulturkampf could give us exact rules to live by, but this stuff has no bearing on normies, and reality is more nuanced. As I've gotten busier and started to develop some social skills, I've found myself more and more bored by anime. Perhaps it's burnout, but maybe I'm now getting from other places the feeling of adventure and discovery which exploring and watching anime gave me. The last point is something Null missed when discussing why anime is linked to political extremism. Both sell themselves as "secret clubs" and make you feel like you're watching super secret media/learning super secret knowledge and transcending the "normies" in an easy way.

Null's reason for disliking anime is because he generalizes the writing as "autism friendly". But anime is a massive media. All you have to do is look past the Top 50 and you'll find thousands of shows without "autism friendly" writing.

This is just false. Even elitist shows like LOGH have autistic traits (easily-differentiable hair colours and lots of exposition). Even Tomino shows have a tendency towards exposition for story (though not for character). This is also true in old OVAs -- I watched an OVA recently (Vampire Wars) and the ending was an exposition dump talking about how the vampires are actually aliens trying to protect humanity from hostile races (or something like that, I was half-asleep). Shows like Divergence Eve that are stingier with exposition still explain everything via info dumps rather than organically weaving every plot point into a conclusion that doesn't need explanation.

Aren't you using hianime.to? Found it pretty easy to use.

It doesn't have anything more obscure.

 

[Imam Shamil]

I recently met a guy in orchestra, and he meets every benchmark of success. He's good at his instrument, and he's doing very well in a competitive STEM field (not computer science or engineering btw). He's also really into CGDCT anime and watches a Vtuber, which surprised me.

LOL. Asians that "meet every benchmark of success" are usually super depressed, so no wonder he's coping with CGDCT and Vtubers.

 

[WelperHelper99]

AUTISTIC VENTSLOP AHEAD

Nigger, what?

 

[Space Police]

Nigger, what?

Allow me to be more concise:

• Anime appeals to Westerners not necessarily because of autistic traits or sexualization, but because it's rooted in Asian religion, mythology, and social issues. These things are often new and exotic to Westerners; proof of this is how many Westerners easily think Buddhism is super deep and enlightened because it's different from familiar Abrahamic religion.
• Anime often obscures its Asian roots (to the uninformed Westerner, that is) with sci-fi, Western fantasy, and Western mythological/religious theming. This gives the impression of originality.
• Anime that is reasonably intelligent or creative with blending Asian cultural elements and other cultures and genres together will be quite enjoyable (see: Gall Force, which combines samsara with the story of Adam and Eve and places it in space), while anime that fails to do so will not be. This blending can even make certain sexualized shows watchable.
• Once you realize this is what anime does, you will hold anime in less esteem as you realize it's not original; it's just from a different culture.
• Anime may not make people lesser than others; I have recently seen a successful person who watches moe anime and Vtubers but isn't a degenerate about it.
• Anime is linked to extreme politics because both are reasonably outside the mainstream and promise the chance for you to experience or learn things most people never will. This appeals to people with underdeveloped social skills.
• Almost all anime, no matter how obscure, will have autism-friendly traits like bright hair colours, elaborate outfits, and unnecessary exposition.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Allow me to be more concise:

• Anime appeals to Westerners not necessarily because of autistic traits or sexualization, but because it's rooted in Asian religion, mythology, and social issues. These things are often new and exotic to Westerners; proof of this is how many Westerners easily think Buddhism is super deep and enlightened because it's different from familiar Abrahamic religion.
• Anime often obscures its Asian roots (to the uninformed Westerner, that is) with sci-fi, Western fantasy, and Western mythological/religious theming. This gives the impression of originality.
• Anime that is reasonably intelligent or creative with blending Asian cultural elements and other cultures and genres together will be quite enjoyable (see: Gall Force, which combines samsara with the story of Adam and Eve and places it in space), while anime that fails to do so will not be. This blending can even make certain sexualized shows watchable.
• Once you realize this is what anime does, you will hold anime in less esteem as you realize it's not original; it's just from a different culture.
• Anime may not make people lesser than others; I have recently seen a successful person who watches moe anime and Vtubers but isn't a degenerate about it.
• Anime is linked to extreme politics because both are reasonably outside the mainstream and promise the chance for you to experience or learn things most people never will. This appeals to people with underdeveloped social skills.
• Almost all anime, no matter how obscure, will have autism-friendly traits like bright hair colours, elaborate outfits, and unnecessary exposition.

...
And you just discovered any of this? Brother. I don't like Anime because I can get it here. I like it because it is fucking different. So what if it's a bit autistic? That is every hobby at the end of the day.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

will have autism-friendly traits like bright hair colours

This is not how mukokuseki works. And the decision for using all colors of the rainbow was made when computer games became huge in the '80s because it made the character profiles pop, and allowed characters to be distinguished from each other while still unmistakably Japanese to the audience. It's also a form of fetishizing Western traits since, naturally, Asians don't have blond hair and big eyes, but it's aesthetics first-and-foremost.

 

[SandyCat]

Not sure if this belongs in the Q&A section of this board (as this is a really stupid question), but at any rate, given the stuff Null has pointed out on why he doesn't like anime, does it make one "lesser" to be a fan of anime, given his reasons for disliking it?

AUTISTIC VENTSLOP AHEAD

Who cares what random internet retards think of your hobbies lmao what are they gonna do call you mean names on the internet?

Enjoy your autistic hobbies just use basic common sense when doing so or you'll end up like Chibi

 

[HexFag]

Almost all anime, no matter how obscure, will have autism-friendly traits like bright hair colours, elaborate outfits, and unnecessary exposition.

dude its a CARTOON, if you can't get away with having bright and colorful designs there, where the hell can you?

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Anime is automatically better than a grand majority of modern Western cartoons and until the DEI shit is completely removed, there can be no argument otherwise.

 

[Atatata]

Why does every alien or cultist or spirit they encounter in Dandadan wanna rape Momo? I feel like every arc seems to have an attempted gang rape plot.

It's a very quick and cheap way to show that someone is evil without either killing off a character/creating a character just to kill them off, also coomers.