Katholic Kiwi Kathedral (Catholocism General) - Byzantine? Ethnic? Roman? It doesn't matter. It's a place for Catholic Kiwis to discuss Catholicism and inquirers to inquire

[Local Farmer]

I think this is the Memoir I was talking about, it’s by Bernal Diaz, who most certainly was not a fan of Cortez but does write about how he still wakes up in cold sweats and panic attacks

Upon closer inspection, the Wikipedia is super fucking dishonest and doesn’t mention anything about his ptsd, but until the end of his life he would sleep in full armor because he saw one of his friends get their hearts ripped out of their chest

 

[Local Farmer]

You either get the family and regularly attend Mass and try to do good deeds, or you end up in a Sam Hyde comment section. Which way will it be, White Man?

Personal confession, seeing people randomly blurt "Christ Is King" on an off-roading video only evokes "shut up faggot". Belief should be unshakeable and secure; when The apostles left the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace for the Name they did not mean victimizing themselves for attention.

For these people: stop posting random platitudes and do some work. You'll find the itch goes away quickly- a lot like just not being gay. You don't need to bring it up randomly.

You’re not going to get the 10/10 trad cath schizo gf just by converting to the Catholic Faith no matter what the Groypers and Orthobros tell you. And if you meet a girl like that you should run as far and as quickly as you can.

I also really hate these kind of people because they tend to fetishize women the worst. 99% of them have a severe inferiority/Superiority complex

 

[RomanianSchizo]

You’re not going to get the 10/10 trad cath schizo gf just by converting to the Catholic Faith no matter what the Groypers and Orthobros tell you. And if you meet a girl like that you should run as far and as quickly as you can.

I also really hate these kind of people because they tend to fetishize women the worst. 99% of them have a severe inferiority/Superiority complex

Finally someone else says that these types of Catholics fetishize women! A reason why I stayed away from Catholic men for so long.

 

[Local Farmer]

Finally someone else says that these types of Catholics fetishize women! A reason why I stayed away from Catholic men for so long.

“Yeah bro I want a 9/10 20 year old babe that I can have 6 kids with that cooks and cleans for me and gives me unlimited sex”

YOU ARE NOT A BASED TRAD HUSBAND, YOU HAVE A MADONNA-WHORE COMPLEX BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN IS FRIED FROM PORN

 

[AnsemSoD1]

“Yeah bro I want a 9/10 20 year old babe that I can have 6 kids with that cooks and cleans for me and gives me unlimited sex”

YOU ARE NOT A BASED TRAD HUSBAND, YOU HAVE A MADONNA-WHORE COMPLEX BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN IS FRIED FROM PORN


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I just wonder why the Hell they love Xitter so much, don't they know that Musk loves to let Poojeets and Jews on the site?

 

[Local Farmer]

I just wonder why the Hell they love Xitter so much, don't they know that Musk loves to let Poojeets and Jews on the site?

Literally nothing is a bigger bucket of crabs than young religious men on Twitter and Discord, literally the fucking gayest you takes you will see about the catholic Faith is from shit like “Basedtradwarrior902” or some shit

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Literally nothing is a bigger bucket of crabs than young religious men on Twitter and Discord, literally the fucking gayest you takes you will see about the catholic Faith is from shit like “Basedtradwarrior902” or some shit

Its almost always a Spic or Jeet as well behind the profile pic.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Literally nothing is a bigger bucket of crabs than young religious men on Twitter and Discord, literally the fucking gayest you takes you will see about the catholic Faith is from shit like “Basedtradwarrior902” or some shit

Making it a cultural thing is what does this; religion isn't something you're supposed to show off like a costume.
Which is why it's so popular with krist iz kang types/jeets, it's just a flash to them, easy to spot at least but it's still degrading.

 

[Lovely Kin]

I'm going to inquire, wanting to learn about your catholic experiences. For those who converted later in life, what drew you to Catholicism? Also if you came from a household, or had a belief disliking Catholicism, what changed your mind?

 

[GeekUSA]

I'm going to inquire, wanting to learn about your catholic experiences. For those who converted later in life, what drew you to Catholicism? Also if you came from a household, or had a belief disliking Catholicism, what changed your mind?

A simple answer would be that what made me first and foremost a Christian was the emptiness life has without purpose, and what made me a Catholic was that I believe Catholicism is the correct, unbroken church Christ established on Pentacost.

 

[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

A simple answer would be that what made me first and foremost a Christian was the emptiness life has without purpose, and what made me a Catholic was that I believe Catholicism is the correct, unbroken church Christ established on Pentacost.

Pretty much, I tried getting into the Bible a few times, what made me keep going was Father Mike's "Bible in a Year" podcast. Specifically Job was my fırst "awakening" moment that Christianity might be the way.

 

[Poonocchio]

i think its more of a symbolic thing. "now i am officially an atheist" type of thing

same thing with "debaptisms" done by atheists
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Is that a fucking hairdryer with a diffuser?

 

[Rango Dango]

Is that a fucking hairdryer with a diffuser?

it is

 

[A Very Big Fish]

From what I've read, he took from multiple groups, including the Monophosytes, Gnostics, and Nestorians. He also included some stories from sources we know to be false, like the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, where Jesus creates clay birds and gives them life. Muhammad was illiterate, so he was just going off of information he'd heard circulating at the time.

It's just that the more I study Islam and the Quran, the more convinced I am that it's straight from Satan. Even Muhammad himself thought that at first, until he told his wife what happened, and she convinced him it was a message from God. I actually think it's possible that Islam is what St. Paul is referring to in 2 Corinthians chapter 11 when he talks about false prophets preaching a different Jesus and a different Gospel. He also could just be talking about any number of heresies, but Islam seems to be the big one that really took hold and stuck around.

Regarding all the gnostics and heretics, Muhammad lived after the vast majority were expelled from the Roman Empire.

Three guesses as to where the majority of them went.

To be fair, Muhammad thought he had encountered a djinn, which is often conflated as a demon, but aren't exactly the same. A better term would probably be spirit, as a djinn in Islam can be saintly, or Satan himself (he's a djinn in Islam, not an angel). The Arabs at the time thought djinn could posses people, though this could also be less extreme then a Christian would see possession, for example sometimes people who were great poets were thought to be possessed.

However, after whatever is in the cave strangles Muhammad, he flees to his wife, who along with her Nestorian relative (I want to say uncle) convince Muhammad that it was the angel Gabriel.

How they got to that conclusion, I have no Earthly idea, because Gabriel seemed a lot less insane 500 years or so prior when he was talking to the Mary.

 

[RomanianSchizo]

“Yeah bro I want a 9/10 20 year old babe that I can have 6 kids with that cooks and cleans for me and gives me unlimited sex”

YOU ARE NOT A BASED TRAD HUSBAND, YOU HAVE A MADONNA-WHORE COMPLEX BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN IS FRIED FROM PORN


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Regarding the "gives me unlimited sex" part - don't even get me started on the whole idea of the Marital Debt - that term has been so bastardized by these misogynistic lustful men who honestly believe that the Marital Debt is about women handing over themselves whenever the man asks for it. That is so far from the truth, it's honestly disgusting and downright offensive.

Literally nothing is a bigger bucket of crabs than young religious men on Twitter and Discord, literally the fucking gayest you takes you will see about the catholic Faith is from shit like “Basedtradwarrior902” or some shit

These young men love to LARP as Crusaders when the only experience they've had regarding war is playing video games. Absolute insanity.

 

[Local Farmer]

Regarding the "gives me unlimited sex" part - don't even get me started on the whole idea of the Marital Debt - that term has been so bastardized by these misogynistic lustful men who honestly believe that the Marital Debt is about women handing over themselves whenever the man asks for it. That is so far from the truth, it's honestly disgusting and downright offensive.

Yes, people should have a sexual relationship with their spouse, however even in the confines of Marriage the man has to make a comfortable environment and respect the boundaries of the women, if you don’t do that you get a dead bedroom, a hateful wife and worse marriage

Edit: That is what I believe the man’s role in marital relations, something most of these retards don’t get or are too naive to understand

 

[Mound Dweller]

How they got to that conclusion, I have no Earthly idea, because Gabriel seemed a lot less insane 500 years or so prior when he was talking to the Mary.

Muslamic understanding of theology is literally just Nestorianism, not the actual "nestorianism" that got adopted by the Church of the East (largely just a political thing, most modern variants are in communion now), but the exaggerated ridiculously wrong kind the polemics strawmanned to make it more easily attackable; that's how pisslams "tawhid" works. M-dog 100% just ripped off some garbled half understood Monophysitism and ran with it.

How does an obvious misunderstanding of trinitarianism get embedded so deep? Shitslam is an inherently anti-rationalist religion that believes in all kinds of stupid nonsense like the Quran being the literal word of God but somehow pre-dating God's own word, if you question this it's takfir, say what you want about the less open minded eras of Christianity but mudslimes take it to the next level it's not even funny

 

[RomanianSchizo]

Yes, people should have a sexual relationship with their spouse, however even in the confines of Marriage the man has to make a comfortable environment and respect the boundaries of the women, if you don’t do that you get a dead bedroom, a hateful wife and worse marriage

Edit: That is what I believe the man’s role in marital relations, something most of these retards don’t get or are too naive to understand

Humane Vitae addresses the Marital Debt and I'm paraphrasing here, but it basically says what you said. The man has to make the woman feel comfortable and loved and to show affection to the woman. The woman is also allowed to say no. This idea that a man is allowed to impose upon the woman no matter what is so anathema to what we as Catholics even believe - I would go so far as to say it is such a rapey idea. It's truly sickening.

Muslamic understanding of theology is literally just Nestorianism, not the actual "nestorianism" that got adopted by the Church of the East (largely just a political thing, most modern variants are in communion now), but the exaggerated ridiculously wrong kind the polemics strawmanned to make it more easily attackable; that's how pisslams "tawhid" works. M-dog 100% just ripped off some garbled half understood Monophysitism and ran with it.

How does an obvious misunderstanding of trinitarianism get embedded so deep? Shitslam is an inherently anti-rationalist religion that believes in all kinds of stupid nonsense like the Quran being the literal word of God but somehow pre-dating God's own word, if you question this it's takfir, say what you want about the less open minded eras of Christianity but mudslimes take it to the next level it's not even funny

The Quran confirms both the Torah and the Gospel as true multiple times, but if you bring this up to a Muslim, they say that these verses in the Quran are referring to the time before parts of the Torah and the Gospel were corrupted (which is what the Muslims believe). Of course, if you look at the actual Arabic, the Arabic only talks about the Torah and the Gospel (which is called the Injeel). Not part of the Torah and Gospel, or the non-corrupted bits, but the Torah and the Gospel, i.e., the entire books. But of course, Muslims will create convenient narratives because if the Quran is wrong (which is it), their entire religion falls apart.

 

[Local Farmer]

Humane Vitae addresses the Marital Debt and I'm paraphrasing here, but it basically says what you said. The man has to make the woman feel comfortable and loved and to show affection to the woman. The woman is also allowed to say no. This idea that a man is allowed to impose upon the woman no matter what is so anathema to what we as Catholics even believe - I would go so far as to say it is such a rapey idea. It's truly sickening.

I have a bottled up rant in regards to this that I may get drunk and start posting about one night but almost all the marital advice given to men and women in not just Catholic circles, but Christian circles are so counterintuitive.

Believe it or not your supposed to keep wooing your partner all throughout your relationship until one of you is in the fucking grave, neither one is supposed to be a doormat, doing small things for him/her outside of the sexual nature is the purpose of the relationship, not the sex. That’s why the whole “sex stops after marriage” is such a retarded boomer meme, because the men stopped trying to woo their wives and make them feel loved, rather they just dedicated themselves to being fat lazy slobs who are complacent. And yes, I believe dead bedrooms is almost always the Men’s fault/responsibility to fix

Just look at older couples who have a electrifying relationship and copy what they do, it’s not that hard

Edit: From the advice I’ve heard given to women in regards to this in Christian circles just basically “Just have sex!” Which doesn’t really solve the root issues

 

[RomanianSchizo]

I have a bottled up rant in regards to this that I may get drunk and start posting about one night but almost all the marital advice given to men and women in not just Catholic circles, but Christian circles are so counterintuitive.

Believe it or not your supposed to keep wooing your partner all throughout your relationship until one of you is in the fucking grave, neither one is supposed to be a doormat, doing small things for him/her outside of the sexual nature is the purpose of the relationship, not the sex. That’s why the whole “sex stops after marriage” is such a retarded boomer meme, because the men stopped trying to woo their wives and make them feel loved, rather they just dedicated themselves to being fat lazy slobs who are complacent. And yes, I believe dead bedrooms is almost always the Men’s fault/responsibility to fix

Just look at older couples who have a electrifying relationship and copy what they do, it’s not that hard

Edit: From the advice I’ve heard given to women in regards to this in Christian circles just basically “Just have sex!” Which doesn’t really solve the root issues

I 100% agree. Looking forward to hearing to your rant, I could also rant about this concept along with the advice about sex and relationships in general within Catholic and Christian circles.