Megathread The Pooner Zoo - A thread for collecting wild Pooners and posting OC Pooners, and anything Pooner related

[Aunt Carol]

It's ridiculous to read the complex psychological analyses on various Dreamwidths of her behavior and mental illnesses and personality disorders that ignore the gigantic elephant in the room that her pathologically lying about her sex just possibly might have something to do with her pathologically lying about everything else.

Yeah, having to tiptoe around the pooner is probably why Amy Player's story isn't a normie-targeted documentary series by now... and it sure helps her keep getting away with it, when the very people she tricks will shout down someone who saw through the last trick.

It reminds me of how the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch troons got so many puff pieces about them, but nobody ever mentioned how many of them were "plurals" (just like Liz Fong-Jones). There's just as much evidence for plurality as there is for being trans, but people know that's a fantastic claim too far, even if they'd never say it.

@Larry David's Opera Cape I'd recommend Strange Aeons' YouTube videos about Amy Player and about HIV Living, with the caveat that she's a pronoun-respecter. Still good work otherwise, and being a Tumblr person herself helps her get primary sources.

If memory serves, women on KF aren't showing up from reddit, twitter, and tumblr. Sister sites like ovarit have been name dropped quite a lot. Anyone at risk of pooning out who shows up on KF arrives here because they've heard it's a hive of transphobes. Then again, we get a concerning number of yaoi experts in this thread. Somehow, a Ao3 to KF pipeline exists in baffling fashion.

Yaoi experts show up here because female-focused fandom has been absolutely nuked by poonerism, possibly to a greater extent than male.

I never had a Tumblr account, and I only had a Reddit account for a couple of days (needed to contact someone in my town subreddit about their lost cat post), but I came here via lurking Tumblr, lurking r/Tumblrinaction (etc) and then lurking here for a few years. Lurked Tumblr to keep an eye on my fandom friends from elsewhere, then the Pooner Nation attacked.

Ao3 is only about 15 years old, and there's not much "community" there. There are comment sections under works, but no PM function by design; it's intended to store works from offsite fandoms. It's a lot like KF in that way: free speech absolutists who are super serious about archiving, but can't really be brought up in mixed company. Every couple of weeks Ao3 posts on the main page about another fanfic site that they're backing up; some obscure fandom with years of works, almost defunct now, and the admin/web ring owner wants to turn over the keys.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Here's a pressuring pooner from a 1998 Taiwanese romcom.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Here is a question for the girls/women in here, as I am guessing half or more of the users who read this thread are female. I am not, so I have no direct experience with this.

Has this thread and others likely inoculated you from the pooner social contagion that has become an epidemic at the moment? Outsiders not familiar with our forum like to bag on how "transphobic" threads like these are, but I think that they are actually a positive thing in helping keep people who read them grounded in reality and to stay away from hormone fuckery and the SRS chop-shop.

Told the story before, but I had a teenage phase of thinking I perhaps wasn't a girl because of normal self esteem issues, anxiety around growing up combined with stuff I'd read on Tumblr, but I knew I didn't want to become a boy and it was way back when the idea of "non binary" had barely left the internet and most doctors wouldn't even entertain the idea of a person wanting to be sexless/genderless, especially not a minor. It's wild how quickly the narrative seemed to flip, and now here I am simultaneously relieved nothing was done to me and worried for this next generation of socially awkward young women having all this pooner propaganda shoved in their faces.

 

[Panzerfrau]

Here is a question for the girls/women in here, as I am guessing half or more of the users who read this thread are female. I am not, so I have no direct experience with this.

Has this thread and others likely inoculated you from the pooner social contagion that has become an epidemic at the moment?

I was already violently transphobic by the time this thread was created <3
However, my troon ex tried to groom me into pooning out, arguing I can't possibly be a woman, because I have "male hobbies". It failed of course.

 

[Rick The Stick]

typical KF'er finds this site.

Personally it was a mix of constantly hearing KF get brought up in videos and other comment sections, usually in some retarded "boogeyman" context making me curious, and finding myself being increasingly censored across the web.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

"top surgery buddies"

How the fuck can needing a stuffed animal for surgery be in any way gender affirming as a man? Like wouldn't you rather try to think of a good joke to tell the surgery staff when they ask you to count down or something? You are about to be a big boy without tits soon, act like it.

 

[Tetopettenson]

ill never get what it is with trans people and infantilization. like imagine a tim with a shirt that says "just a little girl" that would creepy as fuck. my guess is that theyre trying to make up for the fact that they never got to be the kids they wanted to be bc it took them until they were in their 20s and dealing with adult shit to realize that life is hard but it just comes across as incredibly weird

wtf is this supposed to be is it a frog? these plushies with the diy top surgery scars always make no sense like imagine a frog with boobs. im not a total retard i know these ppl are putting scars on their plushies bc they think its cute and bc they want to show that being trans is """totally natural""" but i am retarded enough to see how dumb it is

 

[Aunt Carol]

Told the story before, but I had a teenage phase of thinking I perhaps wasn't a girl because of normal self esteem issues, anxiety around growing up combined with stuff I'd read on Tumblr, but I knew I didn't want to become a boy and it was way back when the idea of "non binary" had barely left the internet and most doctors wouldn't even entertain the idea of a person wanting to be sexless/genderless, especially not a minor. It's wild how quickly the narrative seemed to flip, and now here I am simultaneously relieved nothing was done to me and worried for this next generation of socially awkward young women having all this pooner propaganda shoved in their faces.

This too.

A lot of the women on KF for trans discourse have that same realization: "if I'd been five years younger, I might have fallen for it and nuked my life." We're shitlords now, but adolescence sucks and life experience accumulates slowly.

I'm impressed, and heartened by the younger KF women who did have pooners tugging at their hems during their Teenage Identity Crisis Years and realized it was fake, with or without a period of belief in genderism.

The shortest way to express that awkward pre/teen girl angst, without getting too far into feminist theory, is the realization: "fuck, you mean I have to become an adult, and a woman? That's two things!"

 

[JaneThough]

All that said, I'd be curious to see how the typical KF'er finds this site. Mocking trannies brought me here, so there's a bit of an ideological presumption to even register for a site like this.

I had someone slide into my DMs on Tumblr to compliment my username and offered a follow for follow. She called herself an artist and of course, flattery gets you everywhere, so I followed. She constantly talked about her thread on Kiwi Farms and ebegged. Over time I grew to dislike her and looked up the Kiwi Farms thread to see what was said about her. Rabbie Davis got me in and I’ve never left.

So for me, I never sought out the Farms, the Farms found me.

 

[Athena Loves Kiwis]

Yeah, having to tiptoe around the pooner is probably why Amy Player's story isn't a normie-targeted documentary series by now... and it sure helps her keep getting away with it, when the very people she tricks will shout down someone who saw through the last trick.

Do any other former fandom_wank regulars remember how suddenly the Change came? In the first discussions about Amy in the early-mid '00s, they gleefully mocked her girlfriend Abby's claim that Amy was male and said that her penis must have been made of Veebonium in reference to her VB alias. Then it was like a switch flipped and suddenly Turimel is being condemned, and people are being called "bigot fucks" and all of JournalFen had turned into a pre-Tumblr social justice hellpit. I not only first learned the word "transphobia" there, but "trigger warning." I even remember the fandom_wank catchphrase "bitch, please" was deemed problematic because it was a gendered insult. It was like the entire userbase was the same age and had all taken their first college sociology class at the same time.

https://fanlore.org/wiki/JournalFen

 

[Argos]

Do any other former fandom_wank regulars remember how suddenly the Change came? In the first discussions about Amy in the early-mid '00s, they gleefully mocked her girlfriend Abby's claim that Amy was male and said that her penis must have been made of Veebonium in reference to her VB alias. Then it was like a switch flipped and suddenly Turimel is being condemned, and people are being called "bigot fucks" and all of JournalFen had turned into a pre-Tumblr social justice hellpit. I not only first learned the word "transphobia" there, but "trigger warning." I even remember the fandom_wank catchphrase "bitch, please" was deemed problematic because it was a gendered insult. It was like the entire userbase was the same age and had all taken their first college sociology class at the same time.

https://fanlore.org/wiki/JournalFen

RaceFail happened over on LiveJournal.

Though, unironically, some of yhe more active fandom_wankers did hit university around that time.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Here is a question for the girls/women in here, as I am guessing half or more of the users who read this thread are female. I am not, so I have no direct experience with this.

Has this thread and others likely inoculated you from the pooner social contagion that has become an epidemic at the moment? Outsiders not familiar with our forum like to bag on how "transphobic" threads like these are, but I think that they are actually a positive thing in helping keep people who read them grounded in reality and to stay away from hormone fuckery and the SRS chop-shop.

Not really. If anything, it confirmed suspicions and concerns I had had for a long time as an autistic gay woman seeing who was pooning out, what trans “healthcare” actually did to them, etc.

I was also not only into fandom, but also participated in wank and gossip sites for it like Godawful Fanfiction, Fandom Wank and CosFu. Consequently felt at home here when I first visited after trying to see what Chris Chan had been up to since his trooning out. Discovered the OG version of Beauty Parlour and the Tumblr subforums and found myself, for lack of better word, validated that others saw through the SJW insanity, Albert Einstein stories, scammers, etc that my Tumblr friends were blindly posting and told me I was crazy or bigoted for not doing same. Stayed here ever since.

KF came to me right place, right time, I suppose. It’s not a safe space, per se, yet I’m still allowed more freedom of speech than elsewhere on the web. That in itself is something.

To keep it on topic—

But things took a dark turn when I learned of "top surgery buddies": innocent children's plush toys that are taken with you pre-surgery and returned post-surgery so that you can feel rest assured about your impending butchery, complete with hideous stitches of their own. Knowing how young the girls who get top surgery can be, this is both deeply disturbing and honestly kind of sad.

I’ve seen many trannies (usually pooners but sometimes troons like Shark Boy) bring stuffed animals into the hospital room or have the staff put surgical masks on them for cutesy photo ops. This is something else. Reminds me of that person someone posted here the other day that gave her surgeon an amigurumi version of zippertits self as a thank you gift, yet in a way more insane. Not even children’s toys are spared the madness.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

I’ve seen many trannies (usually pooners but sometimes troons like Shark Boy) bring stuffed animals into the hospital room or have the staff put surgical masks on them for cutesy photo ops. This is something else. Reminds me of that person someone posted here the other day that gave her surgeon an amigurumi version of zippertits self as a thank you gift, yet in a way more insane. Not even children’s toys are spared the madness.

They are copying what pediatrics sometimes do to very young kids. They explain surgery or other treatments trough a toy so that kid understands what's happening and what's needed for recovery. Sometimes the toy gets stitches or other visual indicators of treatment the kid is going training so they doesn't feel alone with their struggles. It's cute because it's for sick little kids and can be helpful and comforting.

It's not cute if you're an adult. You should not be having major elective surgeries if you aren't able to cope with them like an adult

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Not even children’s toys are spared the madness.

Nostalgia and an unhealthy attachment to childhood innocence is tied to a lot of trooner and pooner stories, strangely enough.

Maybe it has something to do with the higher likelihood of autism in tranny circles but I suspect it's a bit more sinister in origin, sadly. It's like they feel this inherent need to not only make being a tranny their entire life but to also retroactively inject it into their past as well, warping the things associated with childhood into tranny tulpas.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Nostalgia and an unhealthy attachment to childhood innocence is tied to a lot of trooner and pooner stories, strangely enough.

Maybe it has something to do with the higher likelihood of autism in tranny circles but I suspect it's a bit more sinister in origin, sadly. It's like they feel this inherent need to not only make being a tranny their entire life but to also retroactively inject it into their past as well, warping the things associated with childhood into tranny tulpas.

This is why any time a Pokemon has a pastel pink and blue colour palette - they'll go "omg it's the trans Pokemon!" And it annoys the hell out of me because Pokemon is a family friendly franchise that generally steers clear of any overt references to gender identity apart from the recent games taking out "are you a boy or a girl?" which is ultimately just a minor change on the character creation screen.

Another one that bothers me when it comes to genderpeople rewriting their personal history - you'll get corrected for saying things like "I went to school with her" when the person being discussed has since pooned out (to keep it vaguely on topic) and wants he/him or they/them pronouns, and I've seen some TIMs seriously say "when I was a little girl..." No you weren't, Lilith, you were a little boy who grew up into a man and decided to grow his hair out and get fake tits, deal with it. Arguably even worse than Dylan Mulvaney and his imitators calling their new female identity "girlhood", at least there's some degree of acceptance there that they were treated as male in their younger days.

 

[scathefire]

This is why any time a Pokemon has a pastel pink and blue colour palette - they'll go "omg it's the trans Pokemon!"

It’s not even just pokemon, they try to claim literally fucking anything that has a pink, blue, and white color palette. It’s complete group-based narcissism.

 

[Benjamin Spooner Briggs]

I've seen some TIMs seriously say "when I was a little girl..." No you weren't, Lilith, you were a little boy who grew up into a man and decided to grow his hair out and get fake tits, deal with it.

Transitioned? *DU DUN DUN - DU DUN DUN* Transitioned from what??? *GUITAR RIFF*

 

[Ten Different Dudes]

Here is a question for the girls/women in here, as I am guessing half or more of the users who read this thread are female. I am not, so I have no direct experience with this.

Has this thread and others likely inoculated you from the pooner social contagion that has become an epidemic at the moment? Outsiders not familiar with our forum like to bag on how "transphobic" threads like these are, but I think that they are actually a positive thing in helping keep people who read them grounded in reality and to stay away from hormone fuckery and the SRS chop-shop.

Not really. I used to lurk on KF for the Yanderedev thread, but that was the extent of my usage of the site. I figured that being trans wasn't worth it independent of the website. I had a 'not like the other girls' phase as a teen, but I realized that my interests nor my personality made me more or less of a woman. So, when the topic of nonbinary came up, I was sure that going by those pronouns or being trans in any way would be a waste of time and energy. Work with what you have, right? It also helped that I was never interested in yaoi and just went to school and worked lol.

The Farms did peak me though. I saw some twitter users talk about kiwifarms when I thought it was still down, I started reading some threads again and here we are. The only annoying part is that trans art on twitter annoys the hell out of me now and it's everywhere

 

[Aunt Carol]

I was also not only into fandom, but also participated in wank and gossip sites for it like Godawful Fanfiction, Fandom Wank and CosFu. Consequently felt at home here when I first visited after trying to see what Chris Chan had been up to since his trooning out.

 

[Rainbow Child]

lifted from this post.