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Fucking ABC.
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“Shooting incident that left Trump’s ear bloodied.” Nice downplay for “he almost got his head blown off.” Not to mention the guy in the back who, in fact, did get his head blown off. You think you hate them enough…
Is there any surprise over this? There were people both in mainstream and alternative outlets lamenting that the shooter failed to hit the target, and showed no compassion whatsoever for the innocents that were killed and injured.
 
If your just sharing your opinion I respect that but just so we know we are both talking about the same thing, if we are talking about ships in NATO countrys we signed a paper that Article 5 of says "If ANY attack happens to ANY nation signed to this deal, we will treat it as an attack on ALL of the nations who sign this"
Anyway, you guys think fentanyl is payback for kinda ratfucking em with opium?

I've read many of your posts here and also in the Israel/Iran thread.

Here your argument about the Houthis and Greece and also in that other post about China and its production of fentanyl seem to make use of a model of politics where states are like unitary persons, as if the frontispiece of Leviathan is a good way to understand states. I think this model of international politics is overly agentive and focused on creating a sense of narrative coherence over plausible and rational explanations for the outputs of complex systems. It doesn't account or explain behavior of dictatorships or republics very well. This model does this largely by equating states to an immortal personality or psyche that has some type of experiences, grudges, memories, desires, which span the history of the polity. This is how the video game Civilization treats it to give a ludic continuity and roleplaying flavor, and also, apparently, you.

This is just a convenient rhetorical device to elide complexity for an audience of people with 8th grade literacy. It's how journalism operates and turns quotes from whoever would answer the reporter, and often repeated 'facts' from a centralized database like wikipedia or an internal style guide, into a narrative of big-T Truth. But it's insufficient to understand why America isn't bombing Yemen, why Greece doesn't invoke article 5, why "an attack on one is an attack on all" is not actually the operative logic of state level actors. That kind of thinking is more frequently used of a bunch of retarded niggers to justify gang shootings.

You should model it less that way--these traits you project onto the system are actually traits of individuals in a system, the system is a complex multicentric system of power and negotiation. One thing you can see from conventional, highly mediated observation of politicians, their personal preferences are not their political positions. Nor are their political positions necessarily nationalist, revanchist, economically rational, eusocial, or even possible. Think less personally when you think about politics and you'll be able to more clearly see events happening and passing and the reasons why we're not at war because of 2 successful acts of piracy. You often espouse this aggressive third worldist type of foreign policy analysis that oversimplifies and elides the very real professionalism and mutli-layered, very fallible decision-shaping and decision-effectuating processes.

would you fucking think more clearly and carefully about what you're writing
 
buddy Im not sure what to tell you at this point, I dont know witch government is lying about what but ill tell you what I DO know

Go grab ANY produced object in your house, FUCK IT, start with the thing your using to see this website on or where the router providing the internet to do so and see where it came from
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I dont know everything but I know those fuckers are making shit, not cause I read a paper that someone wrote saying it but beacuse 90% of all manufactured objects ive encountered in my life have that sticker.
Sorry retard, I have made in Vietnam on my shoes
 
The sad thing is that until you said it was satire I was ready to believe it. Cruz comes off as that scummy.

Nigga that is if it's invoked. You are a turbo sperg that lacks any bit of sublety or nuance. They can handle themselves, they are big boys. And currently they are. Tough titty.
This is Europe's big opportunity to show the US they don't need our military for help!

who would you rather have in the US
  • 10 million more mexicans
  • 10 million more african amerians
  • 10 million more africans (not the same)
  • 10 million more indians
  • 10 million more asians
  • 10 million more jews
  • 10 million more arabs
I didn't see the option for 10 million more graves?
 
You guys realize that the "list" and anything remotely useful regarding Epstein was probably destroyed back when he was killed right? Pam Blondie was probably talking out of her ass before she even knew what she had when she said "it was on her desk". That's on her and she should probably be fired. Those press packs they gave to influencers were reportedly filled with already known information with some extra context here and there. I don't think there "is no list". They just don't have it because it was destroyed a long time ago. They wouldn't have made so much noise about releasing it and creating such a PR shitstorm if the plan was always to cover it up. That doesn't make sense.

Thinking about this since Kash and Bondi made a shit show of it, any incriminating evidence was probably destroyed in 2006.

He was no longer a powerful asset after that. He still had money and knew people who to talk to(it's been rumored the reason Gates met with him was because Gates wanted a Nobel Peace prize and Epstein knew who to schmooze). Maybe he still did a little pimping to the likes of Prince Andrew, but iirc the vast majority of his High Society interactions were pre2006.

No one really even talked about him until 10 years after he was active, he's probably now only allowed to get media attention to distract from whoever does that work today.
 
This "city" was built mostly out of plaster and chicken wire for the 1893 Chicago world fair, and looks so real that there're still conspiracy theories that it was an ancient, "Lost" city.
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The Chinese "cities" are the same. Amusement park façades put up to make others think China can actually build and staff such huge impressive buildings!

The only difference is, America actually could and did make real buildings inspired by this model
The only people who think that the White City was an ancient lost city are retarded Southside niggers who can't read and don't know/can't comprehend that the modern Museum of Science and Industry was a depression/WW2-era stone reconstruction/in-place replacement of the decaying plaster building. They think all of the other buildings were like the contemporary stone replica of the plaster building. You would literally have to have only seen pictures of the White City and refused to read any of the words associated with those pictures to think this.

And for the white city? They made one building as a replica of this model. Neoclassical buildings were attainable with Edwardian era technology, they had that much in Maoist China. There are buildings more impressive in engineering terms all over the third world. Even then the contemporary MSI in Hyde Park looks like shit if you've ever seen a classical building. The MSI is a cheap, fake, ugly looking piece of shit. Mass-produced, same-face same-pose statues as false karyatids, false porticos everywhere, porches that open up onto broken down steps facing an empty lagoon and a half-walled off park whose main attraction is a fake Japanese garden with an ugly statue from Yoko Ono of all people. It is completely fucking tasteless, with clashing and unharmonious elements and an irrational layout. It's a McMansion for retarded Americans to go "OHHHH HISTORYYYY" "WOOOOWWW CULTURE."

3) What the fuck are you talking about? Amusement park facades? Are you talking about the Disney park in Shanghai or the Universal one in Beijing? How many Chinese cities are made of plaster and chickenwire? Which ones? Why aren't they collapsing? Which ones are fake? The ones with shitloads of tourists visiting them precovid? Beijing? Guangzhou? Shenzhen? Which parts of Chongqing are fake? Which parts of Chengdu? They have a lot of cities that are much bigger than any American city and have fairly advanced infrastructure. Certainly at present at least their urban infrastructure is better cared for than American counterparts. Is their whole steel industry a fiction? All the concrete they make? The glass? The trains? They make planes, shipping boats, cars, even if not everything that they make is fantastic, it is a poorer country. You're retarded if you think contemporary Chinese are somehow not as intelligent, capable, or hardworking as the dirty, English-averse hordes of drunken Catholic European cast-offs that built Chicago into a boxy, segregated yeast colony of ethnic resentment and bureaucratic torpor. The Irish, the Poles, and the Italians presented at first as a dirty slavish horde of criminals who spoiled every goddamned thing they touched, voted like niggers, and it took decades to reform them into proper citizens and to boil away the ugly remnants of their non-American cultures.

China is an unequal society with wretched poverty in the hinterlands and a lot of tier 88 cities built speculatively and cheaply, but you exaggerate and sound like an insane person. China's got big cities, real industrial might, a big population and a much lower nigger factor affecting their culture. They can make reinforced concrete as good as first worlders. They're a real threat economically and culturally. You dismiss them and sound ignorant. The Chinese government can be dishonest without us having to grant them the power distort reality itself. I admit there are likely buildings built Potemkin style, these exist the world over because construction is a mobbed up industry full of graft, with the problem being less bad the richer and less mafia-prone a polity is. Nonetheless it's very far from the norm, it is very far from the truth to say it is what their cities are generally like. The material culture in a Chinese first or second tier city are often comparable to that of any American city. Literally every new building I've seen built in America, from luxury housing to movie theaters to parking garages to mosques all look like Chinese malls. We've already had the great convergence.
 
He could marry Internet Wizard here.
He needs to get out of the house first.

China is an unequal society with wretched poverty in the hinterlands and a lot of tier 88 cities built speculatively and cheaply, but you exaggerate and sound like an insane person. China's got big cities, real industrial might, a big population and a much lower nigger factor affecting their culture. They can make reinforced concrete as good as first worlders. They're a real threat economically and culturally. You dismiss them and sound ignorant. The Chinese government can be dishonest without us having to grant them the power distort reality itself. I admit there are likely buildings built Potemkin style, these exist the world over because construction is a mobbed up industry full of graft, with the problem being less bad the richer and less mafia-prone a polity is. Nonetheless it's very far from the norm, it is very far from the truth to say it is what their cities are generally like. The material culture in a Chinese first or second tier city are often comparable to that of any American city. Literally every new building I've seen built in America, from luxury housing to movie theaters to parking garages to mosques all look like Chinese malls. We've already had the great convergence.
China can build competitively to the west when it wishes. It's biggest problem is the culture itself. There is so much face saving bullshit that it cuts into the quality of everything they do. They imitate, not innovate. They are heavily modernizing. It's a question of how much of it will last 50-100 years from now
 
This may be a hot-take but I think "could do it but chooses not to" is actually worse than "too stupid to do it correctly".
Chinks aren't stupid. They can do everything right. But that would mean slowing down. They want to be a 1st world country NOW, at all costs. So fuck quality, fuck safety. They want speed, no matter who dies or how much it costs. If they get to the end and succeed, it's worth it in the long run
 
Graham gets reelected because he keeps delivering what voters in SC want, and most importantly what the people who care about the South Carolina Republican Party want.
It's that simple, but people want to kick and scream and cry over it. I don't like graham, I think he's a scumfuck and a closeted faggot, but he wins elections.
 
It's biggest problem is the culture itself. There is so much face saving bullshit that it cuts into the quality of everything they do
And its actively celebrated by everyone involved. Which is why, to your follow up question,

It's a question of how much of it will last 50-100 years from now
Very little. They're already starting to see foundational issues with their older infrastructure - nothing explicitly negligent or incompetent, just that shit like mega highways and dams wear out over forty years. But their face saving is demanding they don't acknowledge it, as the decay and eventual destruction being addressed now makes someone look retarded or incompetent for letting it get this bad, and spending money on maintenance instead of letting it get bad means your paying to fix someone else's future problem rather than buffing your reputation and legacy here and now. Waiting until it implodes is just an unfortunate act of god, we didn't do anything wrong. This attitude will destroy so much of what they built.
 
And its actively celebrated by everyone involved. Which is why, to your follow up question,


Very little. They're already starting to see foundational issues with their older infrastructure - nothing explicitly negligent or incompetent, just that shit like mega highways and dams wear out over forty years. But their face saving is demanding they don't acknowledge it, as the decay and eventual destruction being addressed now makes someone look retarded or incompetent for letting it get this bad, and spending money on maintenance instead of letting it get bad means your paying to fix someone else's future problem rather than buffing your reputation and legacy here and now. Waiting until it implodes is just an unfortunate act of god, we didn't do anything wrong. This attitude will destroy so much of what they built.
Mao fucked over China hard.
 
And its actively celebrated by everyone involved. Which is why, to your follow up question,


Very little. They're already starting to see foundational issues with their older infrastructure - nothing explicitly negligent or incompetent, just that shit like mega highways and dams wear out over forty years. But their face saving is demanding they don't acknowledge it, as the decay and eventual destruction being addressed now makes someone look retarded or incompetent for letting it get this bad, and spending money on maintenance instead of letting it get bad means your paying to fix someone else's future problem rather than buffing your reputation and legacy here and now. Waiting until it implodes is just an unfortunate act of god, we didn't do anything wrong. This attitude will destroy so much of what they built.
It's what happens when you want to follow Mao's old modernization plan to the date. The deadline on that long March is coming up soon. They don't intend to miss it. It could destroy them in the end. It's what broke the Soviets frankly
 
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