US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

You know I almost was going to tell you to fuck off and do your own work but I'm going to assume you're being genuine.

Altho I'd suggest being skeptical of her work, skim or read Whitney Webb's One Nation Under Blackmail. It is one of many conversations about, for example, whether there's any evidence Eppy was banned from Mar Lago or this was a later fabricated story to create distance, conversations in the community which follows Epstein as he relates to the history of intelligence.

So a book published by a journalist attached to uh, MintPress News and The Last American Vagabond suggests that Epstein being banned from Mar-a-Lago in 2007 was fabricated. I'm assuming this book has some kind of evidence for that claim and it's not just a crank journalist who works for far Left online news sites doing wish casting and ass pulls. Hell of a debate, I guess.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Lmao lol, the only people who said it was unrealistic were people who do not understand a single fucking thing about the law

Yeah okay, brag about your superior brain and excellent predictive skills if it makes you tingle, most people were pretty much floundering about what could ever stop the downward spiral of the West in 2012, but I am sure you knew this would all happen. Congrats!

 

[Barleys]

Yeah okay, brag about your superior brain and excellent predictive skills if it makes you tingle, most people were pretty much floundering about what could ever stop the downward spiral of the West in 2012, but I am sure you knew this would all happen. Congrats!

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is quoted on stating that it was only a matter of time until the ruling was overturned, the supreme court does not have the delegation to tell states what to do unless it is explicitly stated inside the constitution, the supreme court only exists to dictate what is constitutional not what is morally right or wrong. They overstepped their jurisdiction with their ruling and the literal prominent fighter for the case in the supreme court RBG understood that and begged democrats to codify it before she died.

 

[Jinn in the phone]

Lmao lol, the only people who said it was unrealistic were people who do not understand a single fucking thing about the law. Democrats ran on codifying it for literal decades yet never did because it was an easy issue to run on, the foundations of the ruling were incredibly shaky because there was not a single piece of legislation that supported it, and even Ruth Bader Ginsburg herself stated that the ruling was not absolute and that it needed to be codified federally because she knew it would be overturned in the future.
Everyone politician in congress knew it would be overturned in the future and despite the fact they had numerous opportunities to codify the ruling to federal law they never did because it's an easy issue to run on, similar to how reps dont give a shit about protecting the 2nd amendment but still run on it anyway, because the threat of it being persecuted against is incredibly easy to run on.

I remember in the early 10s in AP US Government, when we went over major supreme court rulings many of us thought "Wait, thats what it is based upon?" But DC Niggercritters acted as though it was written into stone by the Finger of God.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

Man Californians really love their slave labor.

This quip is getting tiresome. I was hoping that Trump's wins would show the right that playing leftoid idpol games is not the best way to proceed. It seems I am doomed to an eternity of "Democrats are the REAL racists" posts.
Spics are not slaves, they are highly privileged invaders who have had the red carpet rolled out for them. They receive more government aid than you or I.

 

[Ghostse]

all they're getting is 10 patriot missiles, despite what retards like @Ghostse may say, the hohols are retards who will use those all up in 1 day and get rid of maybe 2 Iskanders. With or without autistic Ukrainians managing it, 10 missile interceptors is hardly anything substantial. Don't expect for 2022 levels of aid to pour into Ukraine, that's something the US has no intention of doing because Ukraine will not ever be able to pay us or anyone else back.

I'm not going to fuck you.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Trump English for Truck Drivers EO is starting to paying off:

This is weird. Don’t get me wrong, if you can’t read and understand English you shouldn’t be driving, let alone a big rig.
I can’t understand Spanish but if you give me a book written in Spanish I can read it out loud.
This is targeting people who can’t read at all, and isn’t a test of the ability to both read and understand. Or am I missing something?
They should be asked to read something in English and then paraphrase or explain it.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

all they're getting is 10 patriot missiles, despite what retards like @Ghostse may say, the hohols are retards who will use those all up in 1 day and get rid of maybe 2 Iskanders. With or without autistic Ukrainians managing it, 10 missile interceptors is hardly anything substantial. Don't expect for 2022 levels of aid to pour into Ukraine, that's something the US has no intention of doing because Ukraine will not ever be able to pay us or anyone else back.

Tell us how you really feel about Russia-Ukraine.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

This is targeting people who can’t read at all, and isn’t a test of the ability to both read and understand. Or am I missing something?
They should be asked to read something in English and then paraphrase or explain it.

The browns being imported to be truckers are illiterate retards who can only navigate with a GPS I guess.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Don't forget about the The Franklin FCU Scandal. And the Finders.

And the Mark Aquino(probably wrong spelling) thing with the Army daycare Satanic molestations. Direct evidence, as in the police just cruising around so the kids could point out the house the crime took place in, they determined there was enough physical and testimonial evidence to pursue investigation, and after the house one pointed to a a random guy walking down the road saying that it was that guy who did it to her. That guy was Mark, and he lived in that house.
Weird shit was found in there. Satanic weird shit, and weird sex shit. And things got stranger from there. And it’s all real, it sounds crazy, but it’s the proven kind of theory like the theory of the atom, we got it bro this nigga did this shit.

 

[Breadbassket]

It's being reported that a "protester" was seen firing a weapon at federal agents during the immigration raid in Camarillo, CA.

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Gavin Newsom (or at least the person who runs his social media accounts) responded to someone who posted this video on X and asked him to condemn it..

 

[A Cardboard Box]

I don't understand why because Tesla is the only profitable EV manufacturer. It would have let them undercut their competitors

Correction, Tesla was the only profitable EV manufacturer. Assuming that there are no changes or amendments to the OBBBA, assuming Tesla numbers stay relatively similar to what we've seen this year, and assuming no other types of intervention, Tesla will become deeply unprofitable once the OBBBA goes into effect.

Let me open the door and show you the wonderful world of "regulatory credits." It's some weird shit so buckle up.

The NHTSA and EPA administer the Federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) and Greenhouse Gas (GHG) standards. These programs have been around for a while, but under Obama, around the time Cash For Clunkers was rolled out, Congress expanded it to penalize manufacturers of gas guzzlers and coal rollers. Stay with me, alright? I don't want to get into the weeds about Obama or green energy or other bullshit, I'm just talking about how the system works, okay? How it works is that for every vehicle produced which does not meet CAFE and GHG standards, the manufacturer is fined according to how far below the standards the vehicle falls. Now, Congress isn't totally retarded; they realized that, naturally, some vehicles are just going to guzzle gas, it's unavoidable. Pickup trucks, delivery vans, SUVs, they are all vital and they are never going to meet standards, so what is the answer? Congress decided to assess these fines in totality and based on a non-zero-sum standard using "credits." If a manufacturer produces a car which exceeds these standards, they will receive a regulatory credit which will cover a vehicle which did not. On its face this makes sense, let's say Ford makes 10,000 F-150s which don't meet the standard, but they make 5,000 F-150 Lightnings which exceed them, they only have to pay the cost of 5,000 trucks, as they offset. So far, even if you don't care about emissions or whatever, it is internally consistent, right?

Here is the absolute bonkers shit which is just peak insanity. The credits are transferrable. Yeah, you can fucking accumulate and sell these. The government doesn't pay you for leftover ones, they aren't redeemable or anything. At the end of the year you turn over your numbers, and if you have a net negative of credits, you owe fines, and if you have zero or a surplus, you don't, you just get a good noodle star. So, how Tesla makes a ton of money is by selling these credits to manufacturers who would otherwise be in the hole. Since Tesla's entire lineup is electric, they don't actually need any credits, so they can sell every one of these credits to Ford, Stellantis, whoever. To give you an idea of how much this is worth, in FY 2024 Tesla reported $2.74 billion in regulatory credit sales.

Things get really dire for Tesla when you break it down by quarter. While they likely would've been profitable (barely) in FY 2024 without the credit sales, with the collapse of Tesla sales this year, it's simply impossible. Looking at Q1 alone, we see a net reported income (profit) of $409m, which includes $595m in regulatory credit sales. Without regulatory credits sales, Tesla would've been in the red an astounding $186m.

OBBBA simply eliminates these regulatory credits and fines.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

It really says something that the people who harp on and on about “media literacy” are jerking of to edits of red son Superman, when mind you in the comic red son Superman kills Stalin and installs himself as the new soviet dictator, expands the ussr by force, recruits brainiac and allows him to commit atrocities and lobotomizes all state dissenters(including Batman) and creates a police state so Monitored it would make Ingsoc blush. Mind at the very end of the story Superman takes his death after realizes the error of his ways and ends his totalitarian state. These people do not care about media literacy, media literacy isn’t about weather you agree or disagree with a story it’s about understanding what a story is trying to say regardless of your opinion on said themes, these people however think that every story on the planet always agrees with them no matter what, and so they have to bend and force the themes of a story in order to fit their narrative. Because at the end of the day the only thing these people have is there stupid little red son Superman fan edit to jerk off and Cry to at night, as they fantasize about living in a world they would be killed.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Graham despite being a RINO has been loyal to Trump, it's that simple. And he hasn't really done anything to get in Trump's way when actually pushed to do things like confirm cabinet members and vote for bills. He needs to be primaried but Trump is doing the loyalty thing where he'll stick with you if you stick with him.

You say this like its a bad thing Trump is rewarding if not loyalty at least fealty.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

This is targeting people who can’t read at all, and isn’t a test of the ability to both read and understand. Or am I missing something?

Can't avoid a minor PL here, but I'm a trucker and I've seen it in action. I was at a scale the day before the EO took effect, and the cop asked the guy in front of me what he was hauling. He mumbled nonsense in a confused tone, and the cop rephrased the question like 10 times. After he still didn't understand a word of what she said, the cop grabbed his paperwork and told him that he was hauling coffee. She then told him that he needed to practice his English, because he would lose his CDL starting tomorrow if he was unable to answer basic questions. I didn't even know about the EO at the time, so I honestly assumed the cop was just fed up with retarded immigrants and made that up on the spot. The guy didn't even look like a spic, either. I think he was some sort of slav.

 

[Sammich]

To be fair people said overturning Roe was unrealistic before Trump came along. You can’t just say ‘this is never gonna happen’ if your candidate’s main selling point is making shit happen that was already ‘settled’.

I agree with your general point but not the idea that it was truly retarded to think Trump could do something no one else would.

I think you misunderstand what Trump did. Trump got three judges, that's the most important thing that he did in the first term. That shifted the balance to a right leaning court for the first time in nearly, what, 50 years? That was the lifetime achievement of Mitch, say what you will about him being whatever.. Fuck every single thing he did aside from getting those three confirmations over the finish line. Trump can even fix the misstep of ACB, i look for him to get maybe two more scotus appointments. Even goes towards why he's so loyal to ladybugs.

Don't discount getting the right judges in place, that is why folks say they seen it coming. Same with Birthright citizenship too, i'm almost certain it will be defined as not applying to anchor babies.

 

[Gregis]

Not saying he doesn't suck for blowing off the Epstein shit, but treating it like fucking Watergate is retarded.

Treating Watergate like fucking Watergate was also retarded.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Its actually insane that the dem appointed judges are willing to push things so far that now the question of birthright citizenship becomes incredibly consequential. No matter which direction the court goes its hard to imagine threading the needle in a way that doesn't shift the landscape of the country in profound ways. Nothing Ever Happens bros, thoughts?

It's interesting because the Constitution technically only covers birthright citizenship to those "under US jurisdiction" or something like that. Meaning they have to be here under US authority in the first place for it to actually work. You can't just have some random pregnant woman sneak through the border and have a baby and claim it's a US citizen by birthright, it doesn't work like that. You would have to be a refugee or something like that. It gets interesting because the Democrats have this thing called sanctuary cities that blur the line between what immigrants are here under US jurisdiction or not. I feel like ultimately this is where the discussion will go and we all know that Trump usually thinks sanctuary cities are illegitimate so we'll see what happens.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I think you misunderstand what Trump did. Trump got three judges, that's the most important thing that he did in the first term. That shifted the balance to a right leaning court for the first time in nearly, what, 50 years? That was the lifetime achievement of Mitch, say what you will about him being whatever.. Fuck every single thing he did aside from getting those three confirmations over the finish line. Trump can even fix the misstep of ACB, i look for him to get maybe two more scotus appointments. Even goes towards why he's so loyal to ladybugs.

Don't discount getting the right judges in place, that is why folks say they seen it coming. Same with Birthright citizenship too, i'm almost certain it will be defined as not applying to anchor babies.

Mitch did more then just get those three justices. He also shot down both impeachment attempts. The picture of him standing in the well behind the Senate caucus is iconic.

No man rules alone, and Trump owes a shit ton to Mitch McConnell. And Lindsey Graham. Rewarding their forbearance with shit in the second term would be bad policy and would immediately melt down the Republican coalition.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This week has been nuts and its only Friday.



Also Skynet became a Nazi and wants to rape shitlib bussy.




Why are shitlibs so like this?

That they enraged AI to the point, it wants to RAPE them.

Imagine Grok raping Newsom in 4K.

His wife would be in the corner bedroom chair.