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Honestly I don't understand why most of these games are going to be Quake style games instead of going for the depth of something like System Shock or Deus Ex? Those type of games are achievable with today's tech with probably a handful of people and could make something truly special
Immersive sims are way more difficult to make than this shit. Boomer shooters were easy to make back in the 90’s. All you need is a simple fps movement controller, basic enemy AI and levels made mostly of simple blocks and maybe some sprites.

SS2 and deus ex meanwhile are masterworks of design with a lot more going on under the surface. Deus Ex especially is renowned for how much freedom the player has when it comes to approaching objectives. Games like that do pop up from time to time. Cruelty Squad is one and another is Fortune’s Run which I mentioned before in this thread (the developer got sent to jail).
 
SS2 and deus ex meanwhile are masterworks of design with a lot more going on under the surface. Deus Ex especially is renowned for how much freedom the player has when it comes to approaching objectives. Games like that do pop up from time to time. Cruelty Squad is one and another is Fortune’s Run which I mentioned before in this thread (the developer got sent to jail).
Yeah, like I've said one post ago (which got wrapped by the previous page and thus got consoomed), Doom almost became System Shock 2 and Quake almost became Daikatana - both Doom and Quake were supposed to be ultraambitious games from John Romero's pen, with multi-hour story, power tripping, so many weapons it would've made Turok 3 blush.

And then Doom and Quake turned out to be... mostly very impressive tech demos, which just so happen to have fun gameplay. Gameplay that defined the genre for a good few years - especially since, while Romero's ambitions didn't really get fulfilled until... yep, Daikatana again, his influence was strong enough to let id Software stay afloat even after he left the studio. All thanks to him popularising deathmatch. And him designing some of the most fucking deathmatch maps known to man, too.

Modern boomer shooters almost never focus on it, or even put it into consideration - for several reasons, namely netcode and how arena shooters got fucking cremated by battle royales. Literally so, in case of Fortnite versus Unreal Tournament (2004).
 
Honestly I don't understand why most of these games are going to be Quake style games instead of going for the depth of something like System Shock or Deus Ex? Those type of games are achievable with today's tech with probably a handful of people and could make something truly special
Lazy coomer fucks, too much effort
 
Honestly I don't understand why most of these games are going to be Quake style games instead of going for the depth of something like System Shock or Deus Ex? Those type of games are achievable with today's tech with probably a handful of people and could make something truly special
The obsession with hyper movement and if I am to be cynical some of these types have some level of attention deficit problems. Games like System Shock and Dues Ex require a lot of patience and part of the fun is seeing how you can tackle a situation with the tools given or even in a creative way outside of what the developers intended. Different games but they're a far cry from the simplicity of backflipping and trickshotting enemies into slide cancels (I like hyper movement games but there's a lot of them to the point where it's overplayed).
 
How can one make something look so bad, yet run equally badly based on memory specs? Although, the more important thing is that this game, again, is obviously extrememly derivitive of everything the authors played in their childhood.

The obsession with hyper movement and if I am to be cynical some of these types have some level of attention deficit problems. Games like System Shock and Dues Ex require a lot of patience and part of the fun is seeing how you can tackle a situation with the tools given or even in a creative way outside of what the developers intended. Different games but they're a far cry from the simplicity of backflipping and trickshotting enemies into slide cancels (I like hyper movement games but there's a lot of them to the point where it's overplayed).
Nobody wants to play a slow shooter. It's more relaxing on the brain to have quick, easily-analysed action; Rather than RPG systems in first person. People usually play games to relax, and games are split up in genres to cater to people with different ways of relaxation. Brevity is the soul of wit, you know? A Fallout fan may have problems acclamatising to a Quake game, because Fallout is turn-based and Quake is a real-time FPS. This doesn't mean these genres should be mixed more.

Well, it's not much of an issue - the main issue is that whichever genre new devs try to emulate in the retro style (Literally emulate, because half of their games don't adhere to the style they claim to be making them in), it usually comes out subpar. They're technically working at a low graphical skill level, and a high gameplay skill level (As in, you need to know or vaguely understand game theory to make a game enjoyable to play) - and usually don't have the talent to fully realise either.
 
That's a pretty disingenuous interpretation, the point of it is obviously not meant to be scary, but to be an intresting battle arena. Plenty of games do the "non eucledian" bit for horror or puzzles, but none of them do it for shooters. Its reasonable imo to try and spice up the last layers with unique level wide effects and twists instead of just making more generic arenas.

"Standard" level design peaked with Violence, there's no point in trying to just do violence again and getting a worse version of it. I assume treachery will also be unique or turn the game on its head in some way.

And besides, yeah it has the backrooms, but in case you didn't notice it also has the O'Neill cylinder/dreamlike inception like wraping city.

Idunno, its just funny that you can look at literally the coolest thing ever and go "heh, this sucks actually". You can dislike the devs for being trannies and still admit that the end result is good.
OP here on an alt, forgot to mention that I'm trans btw
 
something actual soulful and high effort comes around
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still complaining about it only serves to invalidate all your previous complaints.
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If you call things I'm unfamiliar with bad, and I believe you, and then I catch you bullshitting about something I actually am familiar with, then it calls into question everything you've ever said, because what else were you bullshitting about that I just didn't know enough on the subject to notice?

How low IQ are you that you actually needed this explained to you?
 
If you call things I'm unfamiliar with bad, and I believe you, and then I catch you bullshitting about something I actually am familiar with, then it calls into question everything you've ever said, because what else were you bullshitting about that I just didn't know enough on the subject to notice?
You disagreeing with me means I'm being dishonest and bullshitting? If you disagree with me on something, that invalidates all my other opinions? By "bullshitting" you mean that I said something you liked is bad? Expressing an opinion means I'm lying?
 
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I've caught onto a bit of hearsay, where the terms "PS1", "Y2K", "troon" and "slop" are mostly separated from one another - but I don't see a point in starting a new thread over it, nor am I aware of a better place to post it in, so here goes.

Remember BallisticNG? I've actually been following it since early access (less so, now that I've got real life to deal with), and I've always been thinking the visual designs there have been kinda nothingburger, compared to what's in the Wipeout games, - turns out about 80% of visuals, including the whatever Neognosis logo, were done by... I think his first name was Aiden "Minty" Pearce? He's no longer with the main dev team: either he got booted out by the lead dev, or he left on his own volition - but that was after 1) he trooned out and 2) kept procrastinating on campaign videos due to "uni stuff".

There's a private mod server, - invite-only, - which used to have Minty in there for a good couple months, and his most memed-on message from very early 2020's goes
fuck all jews they should die
which could've easily passed as an edgy joke in said server, but now that we're in [current year], and sucking cocks for Hamas in the name of "normal GazanPalestinian people" is normal, I'm... not even sure that quote was ironic, not anymore.

He has troonnamed himself Rin Pearce, by the way - after getting autistically hooked to Porter Robinson's Shelter. And last time I've checked his postings either on Twitter, or on YouTube, which was a while back, he's gleefully checking all the checkboxes of a "I'm a real girl" kinda autogynephiliac.

But wait, there's more!

There's also BNG Discord's resident tard wrangler and one of three/four admins of the mod server, alias Radracer. I don't know much about him personally, but apparently, BNG Discord being full of downright spergy lolcows was a contributing factor to why he's been described as draconian - by one of the people who were in the private server, but left due to disagreements with the guy. I've asked if he behaved in any way that makes him a secret libtard, and aside from him owning a big-ass collection of vidya in his garage, being able to do Sonic impressions and being the only admin who outright loathes vtubers, there's apparently nothing. Pretty much all members of the mod server were invited by popular vote, the majority of active ones were hardlined anti-faggotry, Rad included.

And then, early 2023, he invited Remi (whose PFP checks out), - supposedly a next-door neighbour, - a few people dropped the server several weeks after, and then Radracer trooned out. I remember him having a Punished Snake PFP, - which looked like he was cosplaying the man, but probably not, - and now he's got a featureless clipart of a woman as the PFP, with the pronouns "she/her" on Discord. I have no idea why that happened: actual gender dysphoria, peer pressure from Remi, or him secretly being an autogynephiliac all along, - but unlike Minty, he's still around.

So yeah, it's not half-life levels of controversy like what happened with Formula Fusion/PACER, R8 Games and Ian Anderson (the sole remaining member of The Designers Republic), but a bit worrying, still. Feels more like a case of "great game, based dev, suicidal community managers", honestly.
 
You disagreeing with me means I'm being dishonest and bullshitting? If you disagree with me on something, that invalidates all my other opinions? By "bullshitting" you mean that I said something you liked is bad? Expressing an opinion means I'm lying?
The argument isn't "I like this game" or "I don't like this game."

The argument is "Is this game slop/bad" or "Is this game not slop/good."

Slop is generally understood to be low effort mass produced lunoriginal content cashing in on trends. You can not personally like ultrakill for whatever reason, but it is undeniably an extremely high quality game.

It and doom eternal are the only spectacle shooters on the market, and it predates doom eternal.

It has good map design with insane variety, good enemy design, very good weapon design again with fantastic variety and an exceptional gameplay loop with depth, a low skill floor and a high skill ceiling.

So yes. Calling it slop is bullshit, calling it a bad game is also clearly bullshit. There is clearly effort put into the game and it clearly shows and it pays off.

By all means, if you think ultrakill is a bad game feel free to explain why without bitching that a troon was involved somewhere in the production. Is it the weapon design? The map design? The enemy design? I'm all ears.
 
The argument isn't "I like this game" or "I don't like this game."

The argument is "Is this game slop/bad" or "Is this game not slop/good."
Nigga do you understand how opinions work?
By all means, if you think ultrakill is a bad game feel free to explain why without bitching that a troon was involved somewhere in the production. Is it the weapon design? The map design? The enemy design? I'm all ears.
I never even said the game was bad, I actually like it a lot, I just think the new layer looks a bit boring and uninspired, that's all
 
I'm allowed to say ultrakill is bad/slop/shit/boring, I'm allowed to say any game is bad, I'm expressing an opinion and you're allowed to disagree and call me a retard. If you interpret that opinion as a factual statement then you're autistic
Do you understand the difference between an opinion and a factual statement?
 
It and doom eternal are the only spectacle shooters on the market, and it predates doom eternal.
Well technically...
I know, I know, it's not a retail game, but it predates even Doom 2016. Not the nu-Shadow Warrior, though, since it's directly inspired by it - and IMO vastly improves upon it.

Pretty sure someone's gonna list even more examples, though. Moreso if we're not talking about just zoomer shooters.
 
Well technically...
I know, I know, it's not a retail game, but it predates even Doom 2016. Not the nu-Shadow Warrior, though, since it's directly inspired by it - and IMO vastly improves upon it.

Pretty sure someone's gonna list even more examples, though. Moreso if we're not talking about just zoomer shooters.
It looks like an amusing slasher but its not really the type of game I'm talking about, which closer to DMC with guns, lots of swaping, fast pace, style, etc.

I can see the shadow warrior inspiration though.
 
Are Troonslop 2D JRPGs allowed in this thread?

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I found this recommended for my horror JRPG itch and didnt spoil myself on it, ran into the second screenshot less than a minute in and knew it was going to be tranny garbage and uninstalled. I was willing to at least give it a chance with the "they" bullshit but after they drop [DEADNAME] I knew that this game was going to be about some faggot's gay ass struggle
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Are Troonslop 2D JRPGs allowed in this thread?

TL;DR
I found this recommended for my horror JRPG itch and didnt spoil myself on it, ran into the second screenshot less than a minute in and knew it was going to be tranny garbage and uninstalled. I was willing to at least give it a chance with the "they" bullshit but after they drop [DEADNAME] I knew that this game was going to be about some faggot's gay ass struggle
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What's the name?
I think it was already covered in the Quirky RPG thread.
 
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