US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Blewberry Nausea]

As has been stated before, Trump never really campaigned on the list. He would say he'd declassify it whenever he was directly asked, which he did do when he was first inaugurated, but it was more Patel and Bongino who kept harping on about it.

So he wasn’t able to tardwrangle the people he chose to run his administration?

 

[big pauper]

Trump would have had full access to everything before Biden was ever in charge. He could have done whatever he wanted, but I guess it was more important to pardon niggers.
Ohh, I forgot, don't look at the man behind the Curtain.... something something Biden, Obama, Communism, Trannies, and is BLM still a thing? then BLM. Phew, good thing we don't have to think about the fact that Trump was the president when Epstein went to prison and would have had full access to ALL THE EVIDENCE and could have released it, somehow this is Biden's fault.

I mean, yeah, Trump was the president when Epstein "killed him self" and he could have done anything, but like I said, something something Biden bad!!.

He was arrested when the pandemic happened. Like, same month even if I recall. During the pandemic, basically none of the Epstein stuff was even politically viable for them to touch because everybody was hysterical about trump not forcing people to wear masks. It was a circus to distract the masses, my guy.

I'm not making excuses I'm just saying that you have to broadly ignore how things actually went down to construct a narrative like this

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

So he wasn’t able to tardwrangle the people he chose to run his administration?

He may have been optimistic that some sort of releasable evidence survived, and he was playing realpolitik to get as many people to vote as possible, so he clearly wasn't going to crush anybody's dreams when it was a win/lose scenario.
I'm not saying he's not being a retarded boomer by acting like he can just shout down people into not caring about it, but I can understand his thought process given how dire the lead-up was to 2024, what with the Dems going all-in on swapping out Biden in their desperate attempt to win.

 

[Betonhaus]

Nothing really happened after the 2020 election so it's unlikely anything would happen if Trump died.

After the 2020 election there was still hope in the legal system to fix it. And after Jan 6 everyone learned to be damn sure they made plans and kept it secret.

 

[ProximityThrill]

/pol/ is basically nothing but groypers on one side and MAGA cultists on the other at the moment. Very boring being there right now. “Trust the plan” bros vs a gay Mexican man’s army.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Oh yeah today’s the anniversary of the day Trump got shot.

 

[Maeis]

Oh yeah today’s the anniversary of the day Trump got shot.

put on your fight fight fight shirts

 

[HTTP Error 404]

We already have organization for what society will look like after the revolution. The vast majority of right-wingers simply desire a return to the constitution, and the government it outlines. Organizing on an action bases for violence to enact revolution right now is pointless. The system still responds to our wants enough to be an useful avenue of redress. Any action organization such as for protesting ought to be small scale, local. Your family, neighbors, fellow church members, co-workers. You should never organize over the internet. In person, and well within the legal bounds. The idea ought to be like the minutemen of yore. Not looking to start something, but ready to respond if something should happen. The British eye of Sauron was far more effective than the current eye of Sauron is now. The redcoats were within their legal system's right to confiscate the arms of the militia at Concord. Something the current eye cannot do. The use of electronic communication is far more advantageous to us than it is to the government. We can use it to spread info on how to organize, how to prepare, and train; and on government actions. There can not be some secret operation on the feds part to start confiscating guns without a electronic blackout, which would be good enough heads up for people to be on guard. There can not be some secret black bagging operation without somebody connecting the dots within hours of it starting. If the government is gonna crack down, they have to win within the first month, and they have to keep it civil enough to avoid another waco, otherwise they've lost.

You may like this short form fiction by Bracken:

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/09/bracken-what-i-saw-at-the-coup/

It basically goes over Bracken's opinion on how the AOC types (from the pov of an AOC type that was tangentially connected to a failed coup) might try "something." Tl;dr: Rigging the machine (hello, Jan 6ers) so that there is no redress possible, then black bagging people as you mentioned, with chatbots flooding any online mention of a bunch of "fringe righty influencers" (think catturd and the like going MIA, not Shapiro) vanishing and wasting people's time until they all moved on.

It fails when they lose their stranglehold on the discourse (hello, Elon's X) and the right gets pissed enough to just start shooting people from a far enough distance using hunting rifles -- fun fact, there are tens of millions of hunting licenses out there alone, they could never lock that part of the US down -- and making large public showings of it. As the old saying goes, the tanks are immune to small arms rounds but tank drivers (and their families) aren't. Remember, lefty domestic violence is full on organized cells (cause they're allowed to do that), righty domestic violence will be from 500,000 lone wolves all going "welp that's quite enough of that bullshit" and deciding to do something about it.


Another very interesting one from the same guy is When the Music Stops, which is his theorycrafting about how the US's nigger problem will boil over after decades or centuries of us feeding the beast to try and make sure it doesn't attack us. Turns out the lesson of the Danegeld is to have the fight early, not later. But yeah, eventually the gibs will run out, the negroids will realize there's nothing STOPPING them from doing "flash mob" style violence... and eventually white people will get pissed and tired enough to realize there's nothing stopping THEM from doing "flash mob" style vigilantism to put an end to it.

https://steelcutter.substack.com/p/when-the-music-stops-how-americas

https://steelcutter.substack.com/p/when-the-music-stops-how-americas-a95

As seen in his retweeting of this friendly neighborhood member of the spic-nig cycle, which we saw posted here before:

It's US Centric but the exact same thing will happen in Canada, the UK, throughout the EU in short order. Not if they shut off the gibs, when. Camp of the Saints was a warning and one of the major reasons I've taken up healthy living is so I can live long enough to see the Liberal worldview die in nuclear fire.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Epstein is just a cluster fuck. As lindyman pointed out, the Epstein files are pretty much the one universal constant that all Americans agree on no matter where they stand politically.

I happen to believe that everything got wiped when he was arrested and that they have nothing left. Regardless of that's true or not, Bondi fed people an appetizer by claiming she had the list and then now says there's no entree. It was irresponsible.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Fun fact. Philadelphia cream cheese was invented by a New Yorker.

Unfortunately the reason the Europeans do that shit is they don’t respect our food culture. Cheese is a especially a big one they look down on us about.

Europeans still view Americans as colonials. I don't know how many times I have to say this

 

[Polyboros2]

So since half the people sperging about Epstein list don't know anything about Epstein except they 100% believe he had a list that says "Infallible Evidence that will send everyone in power to jail" that was just in his filing cabinet, I'll give you the reveal of the decade.

The Epstein List "released on the dark web" is legit.

Sorry, it's the reveal of two decades ago. It was his personal contacts list. We have had that list since then. That and the 2009 lawsuit from his victims are why we know a lot of names connected to him, why we know Matt Groening was getting foot massages from young girls on Epstein's plane(he always gets left off of those that have a lot more evidence against them), that Barbarav Walters did fly to his island and Trump did not (at least not on Epstein plane which we've had the logs of this long as long too).

10 years before probably 90% of this thread had(been allowed to) heard of Epstein, he was busted, got a sweet heart deal, and if the government ever was in possession of incriminating evidence, it was then, not 2018/9.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

That still leaves Trump 4 years to realize he was lied to by the deep state, which he seems to have done, and still harping on the list as if he still trusted Biden to keep it unmolested in that whole time.

If I were to very sloppily summarize the whole ordeal, the files made public about 5 years ago were not the whole story. These were the ones that had flight logs. Nothing damning, just creates proximity to the perp.

The files seized from Epstein’s apartment in New York, however, were the ones that could destroy the world. Those files were the “unreleased” ones. Now sometime after Epstein’s arrest, these documents were either secreted away or destroyed after duplicates were made.

Where they are now is in one of two places: FBI office in New York, or Tel Aviv. But I don’t think it’s both. And I find it more likely they are in Tel Aviv.

With every day that goes by, I think it becomes less and less likely anything will ever be released from the apartment files. It’s upsetting that so many kids were harmed and so many men may get away with it.

However, I don’t think there will ever be an Epstein again because a network of small time crooks getting dirt on people is better than one kingpin holding all the cards.

 

[David Brown]

righty domestic violence will be from 500,000 lone wolves all going "welp that's quite enough of that bullshit" and deciding to do something about it.

Any day now. Yup. Right around the corner. Any second now.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Is it just me or do the Democrat politicians seem unusually quiet about the whole Epstein file situation even though bringing it up would be an easy way to get Donald Trump? They certainly have their own skeletons in the closet when it comes to the matter but they tend to enjoy attacking him regardless if it makes sense or not.

It's just you. House Democrats are currently trying to subpoena and compel Trump admin officials to testify on the matter.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

However, I don’t think there will ever be an Epstein again because a network of small time crooks getting dirt on people is better than one kingpin holding all the cards.

In my most schizo conspiracy mind I wonder: What if Epstein is one of the small time crooks made to look like a kingpin to hide the true reality of the problem?

 

[Nameless One]

Like I've said before, if biden did this shit you guys would rightfully sperg out. Trump was right when he said that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and he wouldn't lose a single voter

You're just another /pol/ drifting baiting faggot sock. You fool no one and you're just pathetic even compared to HHH and Fatpacks. You have no personality and it's evident by your dogshit taste in manga characters.

So since half the people sperging about Epstein list don't know anything about Epstein except they 100% believe he had a list that says "Infallible Evidence that will send everyone in power to jail" that was just in his filing cabinet, I'll give you the reveal of the decade.

The Epstein List "released on the dark web" is legit.

Sorry, it's the reveal of two decades ago. It was his personal contacts list. We have had that list since then. That and the 2009 lawsuit from his victims are why we know a lot of names connected to him, why we know Matt Groening was getting foot massages from young girls on Epstein's plane(he always gets left off of those that have a lot more evidence against them), that Barbarav Walters did fly to his island and Trump did not (at least not on Epstein plane which we've had the logs of this long as long too).

10 years before probably 90% of this thread had(been allowed to) heard of Epstein, he was busted, got a sweet heart deal, and if the government ever was in possession of incriminating evidence, it was then, not 2018/9.

You're the type of faggot who would shoot down Wikileaks at it's amazing heights of 2009-2011 just because corruption happened 30 years ago and thus needs "no further investigation". You're the type of fencesitter who'd encourage Edward Snowden to not leak and confirm the fact that the NSA exists to spy on citizens using the internet. Your ass is gonna burn when the fence finally melts. You don't just sit these boiling issues out. Even if there was "nothing we can do", we all know as Americans that our politicians lie through their fucking teeth and require more connections to fucked up things enough to make Hollywood and the entire music indurstry blush. We hold them accountable. Epstein currently represents a major cookie crumb trail of clients and real corruption, alongside Ghislaine Maxwell. It's not JUST pedophilia or trafficking people are bothered by it's his WHOLE NETWORK and its potential connections to our feds AND foreign agents. People want to find out how deep the rabbithole goes so we can get something done about it as a collective. It's an issue even the most retarded leftists will agree with us on.


If a dynasty of moles and locusts were fucking up your garden do you just let them eat it and see it wither away? Fuck you, glownigger. Seriously. You know you're retarded. And if you don't, get the memo and wake up. Your agency will wither if it's built on a foundation of lies. God's divine retribution will smite y'all someday.

 

[deleuzeon]

"I don't care about anyone who post on this website, but I had to post on this website. Any way Epstein LIST not BAD!!!!"

I post on here because I like you niggers. I do not post on here under the deleuzeon that my opinions have any sway over global politics. I guess you do.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

So since half the people sperging about Epstein list don't know anything about Epstein except they 100% believe he had a list that says "Infallible Evidence that will send everyone in power to jail" that was just in his filing cabinet, I'll give you the reveal of the decade.

The Epstein List "released on the dark web" is legit.

Sorry, it's the reveal of two decades ago. It was his personal contacts list. We have had that list since then. That and the 2009 lawsuit from his victims are why we know a lot of names connected to him, why we know Matt Groening was getting foot massages from young girls on Epstein's plane(he always gets left off of those that have a lot more evidence against them), that Barbarav Walters did fly to his island and Trump did not (at least not on Epstein plane which we've had the logs of this long as long too).

10 years before probably 90% of this thread had(been allowed to) heard of Epstein, he was busted, got a sweet heart deal, and if the government ever was in possession of incriminating evidence, it was then, not 2018/9.

The Feds have had almost two decades to make the most serious stuff disappear, and Epstein had over a decade to make sure any unknown stuff was secured. Whether it was purely a blackmail operation, whether it was mostly financial crimes with the fucking underage girls as some Eyes Wide Shut initiation thing, he had plenty of time to hide everything far more effectively. All these Johnnys Come Lately get really mad when you point this out, but anyone paying attention had already seen this shit. That's why when Elon was coming down off of Ketamine and said Trump was on the list, none of us old fags cared, because we already known which flights Trump was on and none of them were to the Island.

Sometimes I think Autistic behavior and narcissistic behavior are co-morbid with each other, so you end up with a bunch of people who think they're smarter than everyone else involved while having trouble parsing that life is messy and Federal agencies aren't forced by the universe to follow the rules. The Federal government spent four years defying Trump, but somehow the FBI that was trying to destroy him was going to follow all the rules about keeping evidence and obeying Trump?

 

[mold]

There are too many conveniences that had to line up for the shooter to get where he did, and take the multiple shots he did. The moment those counter snipers saw the rifle, they would have been more than justified in shooting the would-be assassin. If you or someone else tried to point a rifle at any former president, or a presidential candidate, in clear view of counter snipers, you would be shot. No ifs, what's, or buts about accidently killing someone innocent. The fact he got multiple shots off is clear evidence this was more than a lapse in security. They had eyes on the shooter, they saw the muzzle flash. They had a clear shot. I keep hitting this nail because of just how insane it is. The snipers saw him before he even started shooting, and did nothing till he got several rounds off. Somebody orchestrated a hit against Trump, and only by God did Trump live.

serious question though: if everyone was in on it, why didn't one of the snipers take a shot that could be blamed on the kid? if this was that complex and thoroughly planned, why was there no plan b?

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

It's just you. House Democrats are currently trying to subpoena and compel Trump admin officials to testify on the matter.

House Dems who are young enough and unconnected enough to know they can make a show about the list without fear of actually being on it. They know the more entrenched Dems would never let it see the light of day, but there were no political points to earn when Biden was president.