Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

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Switch 2 sold 3.5 million at launch. For reference, the ps4 and ps5 hit about that much in their first two months. And those weren't just random months, that's launch, black Friday, and all of December combined. Basically every analyst out there is putting the floor for the switch 2's first month around 5 million, and it's pretty consistently selling out every restock almost instantly. While it's definitely bolstered by significantly enhanced cross gen games, it's got a decently packed release schedule for the rest of the year, not counting how insane holiday sales are gonna be for it. I think a 3ds style desperation price cut is already out of the question.
PS5 was supply constrained for more than a year while Switch 2 spent six months building inventory supply due, possibly, to a last minute delay. I'm not saying S2 is fucked or anything, but its not like its clear skies ahead either. There's still questions with market support for pricing, potential future price increases, Nintendo's continuing ability to release games in a timely manner, when Mario and Zelda are coming, etc, etc.
 
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PS5 was supply constrained for more than a year while Switch 2 spent six months building inventory supply due, possibly, to a last minute delay. I'm not saying S2 is fucked or anything, but its not like its clear skies ahead either. There's still questions with market support for pricing, potential future price increases, Nintendo's continuing ability to release games in a timely manner, when Mario and Zelda are coming, etc, etc.
My prediction is that if we don't get a good Nintendo Direct this month it's gonna be a really bad year for Switch 2, at least in terms of exclusives for players (it might continue to sell well despite that, it's not impossible because PS5 somehow keeps selling).
 
My prediction is that if we don't get a good Nintendo Direct this month it's gonna be a really bad year for Switch 2, at least in terms of exclusives for players (it might continue to sell well despite that, it's not impossible because PS5 somehow keeps selling).
I don't think we need a direct this month, but it would be good to get one by next month at the latest to set up the Christmas season. Will Splatoon make it or not, thats really the only question I have left. Otherwise its crossgen Metroid and Pokemon, not lightweights but not going to wake the hardcore up as crossgen titles. Of course, Mario Kart bundles have been winning Black Friday for most of the last decade so it could easily carry the torch for Nintendo again, regardless of new titles.
 
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I don't think we need a direct this month, but it would be good to get one by next month at the latest to set up the Christmas season. Will Splatoon make it or not, thats really the only question I have left. Otherwise its crossgen Metroid and Pokemon, not lightweights but not going to wake the hardcore up as crossgen titles. Of course, Mario Kart bundles have been winning Black Friday for most of the last decade so it could easily carry the torch for Nintendo again, regardless of new titles.
I suppose next month might be enough time promote a big, new game for a November/December release, but my expectations will be cut in half if they announce a direct any time after July.
 
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I don't think we need a direct this month, but it would be good to get one by next month at the latest to set up the Christmas season. Will Splatoon make it or not, thats really the only question I have left. Otherwise its crossgen Metroid and Pokemon, not lightweights but not going to wake the hardcore up as crossgen titles. Of course, Mario Kart bundles have been winning Black Friday for most of the last decade so it could easily carry the torch for Nintendo again, regardless of new titles.
I suppose next month might be enough time promote a big, new game for a November/December release, but my expectations will be cut in half if they announce a direct any time after July.
Nintendo is probably holding off on hosting a Direct this month due to a Pokémon Presents stream happening on the 22nd, we'll probably end up seeing one in late August or early September.
 
It's still ridiculously hard to get one of these bing bing wahoo machines in Japan. I thought I'd try for the lottery pre-release, nope, if you are a new customer you don't meet the conditions of already having played Nintendo games on your account so you are out of luck. Tried again today, still not possible to even enter the lottery as a new customer. Local stores have no stock and are either doing a lottery system or not offering it entirely until more stock becomes available.
 
Still genuinely impressed by the fact it's running Cyberpunk at all, CDPR spent enough time tweaking the port prerelease that it's doing a ton of graphical optimizing tricks no other port does while still using raytracing at 8 watts power draw in handheld. Mario Kart's an absolute ass way of showing the system off compared to this, the new EXPAND DONG game next week better actually push the system more than "we put global illumination on the MK8D engine" considering they did so little work trying to debase that engine from the Switch 1 hardware spec that a 4 player race still drops the entire game down to 30 FPS.
 
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Bananza is at demo stations at retail locations now.

It's kino. I really think this is going to go down as one of the all time greats.
You mean like Mario Kart world was supposed to be?
It's still ridiculously hard to get one of these bing bing wahoo machines in Japan. I thought I'd try for the lottery pre-release, nope, if you are a new customer you don't meet the conditions of already having played Nintendo games on your account so you are out of luck. Tried again today, still not possible to even enter the lottery as a new customer. Local stores have no stock and are either doing a lottery system or not offering it entirely until more stock becomes available.
Isn't Japan's Switch 2 much cheaper than the west's, despite the fact that the console isn't made in Japan, meaning it isn't a shipping/tariffs issue, the japs just want to fleece westerners more?
 
Isn't Japan's Switch 2 much cheaper than the west's, despite the fact that the console isn't made in Japan, meaning it isn't a shipping/tariffs issue, the japs just want to fleece westerners more?
There’s 2 SKUs in Japan. One is the standard worldwide model with pricing inline with RoW, and then there’s a discounted /subsidised Japan specific SKU which will only play Japanese carts. Nintendo state it’s way to combat the weak yen as there would be little point in exporting that model thus keeping in Japanese hands.
 
You mean like Mario Kart world was supposed to be?

Isn't Japan's Switch 2 much cheaper than the west's, despite the fact that the console isn't made in Japan, meaning it isn't a shipping/tariffs issue, the japs just want to fleece westerners more?
Its a little bit more than "wanting to fleece the west", they're taking a bath on these JP units, selling them for below what it costs to build them, but they want to kill Playstation there, which would set them up for decades of supremacy. They never had the cultural buy-in to even attempt it anywhere else.
 
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PS5 was supply constrained for more than a year while Switch 2 spent six months building inventory supply due, possibly, to a last minute delay. I'm not saying S2 is fucked or anything, but its not like its clear skies ahead either. There's still questions with market support for pricing, potential future price increases, Nintendo's continuing ability to release games in a timely manner, when Mario and Zelda are coming, etc, etc.
Switch 2 selling so much combined with the objectively atrocious quality says more about the average consoomer than on the console itself. No shit they managed to shit out millions of units with Temu level quality and recyclying previous consoles materials. The question is how so many people bought a 450$ console with no games and questionable ability to run previous gen games
 
John Deere will disable some of their higher-end tractors if they detect tampering or "unauthorized" repairs. I'm sure they'd never do that on purpose (or threaten to do so) to preserve their own revenue rather than allowing farmers to exercise their right to repair.

Oh wait, it's buried in the fine print somewhere, so I guess that's okay then.
 
Switch 2 selling so much combined with the objectively atrocious quality says more about the average consoomer than on the console itself. No shit they managed to shit out millions of units with Temu level quality and recyclying previous consoles materials. The question is how so many people bought a 450$ console with no games and questionable ability to run previous gen games
Most people aren't playing MKW. They're playing late Switch 1 releases that ran like ass and are now actually playable at reasonable framerates on Switch 2. Stuff like TotK, XC3, SMRPG, and Pokemon SV.
 
It's still ridiculously hard to get one of these bing bing wahoo machines in Japan. I thought I'd try for the lottery pre-release, nope, if you are a new customer you don't meet the conditions of already having played Nintendo games on your account so you are out of luck. Tried again today, still not possible to even enter the lottery as a new customer. Local stores have no stock and are either doing a lottery system or not offering it entirely until more stock becomes available.
I'm not expecting shortages in japan to abate for literal years, even if they double their shipments, they had 2.2 million preorders with over a month and a half to go before launch at a single retailer. Japanese preorders as a whole could have easily been over 7 million for the entire country, and I almost feel that's a conservative estimate.
 
Bananza is at demo stations at retail locations now.

It's kino. I really think this is going to go down as one of the all time greats.
I agree. Played it at Target and its pretty fun. Can see it as a game that kids would enjoy. Something fun about just punching rocks and breaking shit. It makes at least one game on Switch 2 I'm interested in.
PS5 was supply constrained for more than a year while Switch 2 spent six months building inventory supply due, possibly, to a last minute delay. I'm not saying S2 is fucked or anything, but its not like its clear skies ahead either. There's still questions with market support for pricing, potential future price increases, Nintendo's continuing ability to release games in a timely manner, when Mario and Zelda are coming, etc, etc.
I think the biggest risk is it runs into the same problem as the PS5 where the console sells OK but the games sell like ass. Seriously, go look up sales of PS5 games vs the sales of Gamecube games and you'll be floored. $70 has been very bad for the industry. People don't buy games at that price point and it shows. Very few titles have done well at $70 and 1)They are always sequels to big hits and 2)Are still a far cry from the original. You need to sell about 83% of a $60 game to make up the difference and its not happening for any title (for reference, ToTK sold 66% of BoTW which is why Nintendo has been having a melty over piracy). What will be interesting to watch is MKW's sales. I think about 80% of the shippments were the bundle so it will have a high attach rate. If it's 85% or less, then SW2 will have the PS5 problem.

The other issue is it struggles outside of Japan. That was a big issue for the 3DS. It did great in Japan but did poorly everywhere else. Japan is fine but it's a smaller market than Europe and the US so it can be hard if they don't do well in at least one of those two areas. Again, the financials will give us an idea of where it's going.
 
I think the biggest risk is it runs into the same problem as the PS5 where the console sells OK but the games sell like ass. Seriously, go look up sales of PS5 games vs the sales of Gamecube games and you'll be floored. $70 has been very bad for the industry. People don't buy games at that price point and it shows. Very few titles have done well at $70 and 1)They are always sequels to big hits and 2)Are still a far cry from the original. You need to sell about 83% of a $60 game to make up the difference and its not happening for any title (for reference, ToTK sold 66% of BoTW which is why Nintendo has been having a melty over piracy). What will be interesting to watch is MKW's sales. I think about 80% of the shippments were the bundle so it will have a high attach rate. If it's 85% or less, then SW2 will have the PS5 problem.
I think a far bigger problem for PS5's software sales is the fact that so much of the industry, and especially sony, has pivoted to live service hell games designed to drain as much of your time and money as possible so you're not spending them on anything else.
 
DKB has leaked. No emulation available, just have to trust people posting stuff early. Spoilers are readily available for those who care, or do not care, for those things.
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