US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[inetsone]

1948 war

A hint of Maxwell's service to Israel was provided by John Loftus and Mark Aarons, who described Maxwell's contacts with Czechoslovak communist leaders in 1948 as crucial to the Czechoslovak decision to arm Israel in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Czechoslovak military assistance was both unique and crucial for Israel in the conflict. According to Loftus and Aarons, it was Maxwell's covert help in smuggling aircraft parts into Israel that led to the country having air supremacy during the war.[56]


Yeah why would Israel honor a guy who helped them get military arms and planes when they desperately needed it

How... how does what you're quoting contradict what I said? We don't know for sure if he was Mossad but I think it's fair to say there's a 99% chance, enough that other agencies suspected him, as quoted, of being a double or triple agent.

Exactly why are you willing to die on this hill, my rainbow-loving friend? Aside from the obv Israel connection.

 

[Nihil Jung]

Allegations with no evidence



Ari Ben-Menashe yet again

Maxwell's not suspected by Home Office because of Ari's statement, Ari just corroborated their suspicions.

 

[tehpope]

Coffeezilla made a chart tracking “circumstantial evidence” and goes through it line by line, but makes it clear that it doesn’t prove anything. That will be decided in court. It was a fair assessment of what the WSJ has. Like I said, I don’t 100% believe it (it’s too convenient), but it explains to me why they would be confident enough to publish in the first place.

I would post screenshots from the video, but it would be a lot, because you never get just one screen that has his presentation in a single frame. If you’re not interested in giving him clicks, just click on the video, pause it, then move the bar through the video. I don’t think that counts as a view, but I’m not sure.

https://youtu.be/vIKBbLPPEZQ

 

[pwnest injun]

Wtf even is this? It reads like a fanfiction between Harry Potter and Naruto or some shit

What if the letter is real and it's just that Harry Potter was based off the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein?

 

[Fapcop]

Yeah why would Israel honor a guy who helped them get military arms and planes when they desperately needed it

Isn’t there something you’re leaving out?

Like when Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordecai Vanunu walked into Maxwell’s paper to tell the truth about the Israeli nuclear weapons program, and Maxwell not just promptly informed Mossad, but also helped to arrange the kidnapping of Vanunu?

Is sweeping Israeli/Jewish crimes under the rug the only thing you do on KF?

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

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Holy shit, his voice is like needles in my ears.

 

[Nihil Jung]

Isn’t there something you’re leaving out?

Like when Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordecai Vanunu walked into Maxwell’s paper to tell the truth about the Israeli nuclear weapons program, and Maxwell not just promptly informed Mossad, but also helped to arrange the kidnapping of Vanunu?

Is sweeping Israeli/Jewish crimes under the rug the only thing you do on KF?

I dont think Catch has ever responded to anything Ive ever said about Vanunu, lol, good luck.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Is sweeping Israeli/Jewish crimes under the rug the only thing you do on KF?

Why do anything else? Israel is important and must be protected.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

I don’t see the point in going all-in on “it’s real” or “it’s fake” when Trump has publicly stated that he intends to sue. We’re going to find out either way.

I can explain. The rest of the people in this thread are just speaking honestly about their thoughts and opinions. Nobody else is treating this like a poker game, where you carefully consider which opinion you'll pretend to have in order to maximize your reputational earnings.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

How... how does what you're quoting contradict what I said? We don't know for sure if he was Mossad but I think it's fair to say there's a 99% chance, enough that other agencies suspected him, as quoted, of being a double or triple agent.

Exactly why are you willing to die on this hill, my rainbow-loving friend? Aside from the obv Israel connection.

I'm big on being precise. Maxwell was close to Israel and supported it but was most likely not a Mossad agent.

I dont think Catch has ever responded to anything Ive ever said about Vanunu, lol, good luck.

I replied to it, I'll repeat my reply

Like when Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordecai Vanunu walked into Maxwell’s paper to tell the truth about the Israeli nuclear weapons program, and Maxwell not just promptly informed Mossad, but also helped to arrange the kidnapping of Vanunu?

That is an Ari Ben-Menashe accusation. As was shown by his multiple attempts to discredit people he didn't like, Ari is a liar. I linked an article listing how he is a liar.

 

[Barleys]

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Just show the letter and there will be an end to this madness. Why are we speculating over shit no one literally not a single person has seen. There's such a thing as forensic document experts. If theyre so confident the letter is real then release it and forensic experts will verify it

 

[HandsomeDan]

All of this again reminds me of the pitfalls of associating with and being in the circles of questionable people. We all know, all of the sexual deviancy is not just demonic behavior but a way to trap and blackmail people. Unfortunately too many people get seduced with being in the "popular crowd" I guess. This is why all of this should be avoided at all costs.

I sort of thought Trump had in fact steered clear of all of this, but maybe not. I dont believe anything anymore so who knows. I remain disappointed in how things have been going.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

Here's the contents of the 10000% real letter:

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This reads like a start to a gay porn.

 

[Nihil Jung]

I'm big on being precise. Maxwell was close to Israel and supported it but was most likely not a Mossad agent.


I replied to it, I'll repeat my reply



That is an Ari Ben-Menashe accusation. As was shown by his multiple attempts to discredit people he didn't like, Ari is a liar. I linked an article listing how he is a liar.

And I will again say, the sole source of these suspicions isn't merely Ari's statements. His statements corroborated prior suspicions and accusations. Remove him from the situation entirely for being a "known liar" and you still have reports, accusations, suspicions etc. From Vanunu's on down the line.

 

[inetsone]

I'm big on being precise. Maxwell was close to Israel and supported it but was most likely not a Mossad agent.

That's fair, wanting precision. However, saying he was "close" to Israel vs 99% likely a Mossad asset... both are judgement calls here and damn near the exact same statement. I have no real truck in this fight, but yes, precision matters but in the history of clandestine services, you're never going to get 100% and "close" is close enough, imho.

 

[Dopeypal]

I can explain. The rest of the people in this thread are just speaking honestly about their thoughts and opinions. Nobody else is treating this like a poker game, where you carefully consider which opinion you'll pretend to have in order to maximize your reputational earnings.

Nah, I’ve just been burned too many times going all in on one cause or another. I try not to be too inflammatory or ad hominem because of it.

 

[pwnest injun]

If the Trump released a single document from the file that was just a post-it note saying "Jews did everything" I think that would satisfy our frothing friends ITT...

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Just show the letter and there will be an end to this madness. Why are we speculating over shit no one literally not a single person has seen. There's such a thing as forensic document experts. If theyre so confident the letter is real then release it and forensic experts will verify it

It's such a bizzare thing in every aspect to me, and the fact people are even entertaining the idea that it's real genuinely confuses me.

So Donald Trump typed out a third person imaginary conversation between him and Epstein, literally RP chatting with himself, wrote "happy birthday" and a homoerotic sounding line about secrets at the end, printed it out, drew a picture of a naked woman on it despite Trump sucking ass at drawing, then signed it and gave it to Epstein for his 50th birthday.

Then Epstein kept this insanely shitty love letter given to him in 2003, for over a decade, even though Trump had him banned from all of his properties and worked with the feds to have him arrested?


Do people actually, unironically think this is anything other than fake? It's gorilla channel/pee tape levels of stupid.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Coffeezilla made a chart tracking “circumstantial evidence” and goes through it line by line, but makes it clear that it doesn’t prove anything. That will be decided in court. It was a fair assessment of what the WSJ has. Like I said, I don’t 100% believe it (it’s too convenient), but it explains to me why they would be confident enough to publish in the first place.

I would post screenshots from the video, but it would be a lot, because you never get just one screen that has his presentation in a single frame. If you’re not interested in giving him clicks, just click on the video, pause it, then move the bar through the video. I don’t think that counts as a view, but I’m not sure.

Okay, Coffeezilla is an absolute fucking moron. This faggot needs to stick to crypto and stay as far away from politics as humanly possible. I've watched 20 minutes of this garbage and he proves nothing. All he's doing is sperging and making wrong points about nothing.

Let's talk about court for a minute. What do you think is going to happen in court? What evidence is the WSJ going to provide that authenticates this letter is written by DJT? It's a 20 year old letter and Trump is the most public of public figures and unless there is video evidence of Trump making this letter and handing it to Epstein, they have no credible way of proving it's genuine. It's virtually impossible to prove. Trump has special protections and liabilities as a public figure. There is nothing that's going to "come out" in discovery. The WSJ is not suing Trump. Trump is suing the WSJ and he is going to obtain every email communication regarding why they wanted this story printed, who told them to do it, and potentially, their sources. There's no defense the WSJ has for this. It's an allegedly 20 year old document that anyone could've made at any point in time. It reads like an AI written letter. If you pass it through any of the AI tests, it won't pass.

It was stupid to print this story. They shouldn't have printed this. The WSJ is going to settle out of court for millions just like every other news company that pulled a stunt like this. I don't think there's anyone out there who genuinely believes it's real other than faggot Coffeezilla.

 

[Nottafed]

If the Trump released a single document from the file that was just a post-it note saying "Jews did everything" I think that would satisfy our frothing friends ITT...

That literally all we are asking for, then we can go back to sperging about Captain Planet.