Debat user @Maeis on lolicon, discord ERP, and the age of consent

May this be a reminder for the retarded weaboos.
Never, EVER, defend loli. Lolicons are pedophile tourists who do not truly appreciate the artform. Do not try to lump lolicons into the same boat as horny teenagers consuming manga made for horny teenagers. Lolicons want to fuck children and should be sent to get mental help or sent to jail. Horny teenagers should be told to keep it in their pants until they're married/ready (mentally and biologically) to bear and rear young. Everyone should obey AOC laws. Anyone glorifying and attempting to normalize pedophillic acts is evil.
 
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Maeis said:
You're not wrong, but I figured I was "safe" in my assumptions considering any contact with minors (or even basically under-25 year olds, really) is fucking weird as an adult.
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What the fuck is this overcorrection? Anyone under 25? I don't think having a eureka moment about lolicon referring to depictions of prepubescent children has anything to do with you claiming that there is a separation between lolicons and pedophiles who escalate to victimizing real children. And it isn't as if the law is going to make a legal distinction based on whether the character is under the age of 12 or not. Explain how this misconception about what lolicon is informed your position on whether it should be illegal.
 
Mayfly said:
What the fuck is this overcorrection? Anyone under 25?
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It's not about legality at that point but what society thinks is creepy; as a 30 year old man dating really close to what's legal is creepy.
Mayfly said:
don't think having a eureka moment about lolicon referring to depictions of prepubescent children has anything to do with you claiming that there is a separation between lolicons and pedophiles who escalate to victimizing real children.
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It's more about degree; I can defend a fictional 15 year old because that's still fucked in real life but way less fucked than a 5 year old. I just wanted to make sure because what I was hearing made no sense, and it turns out I didn't know shit.
Mayfly said:
. And it isn't as if the law is going to make a legal distinction based on whether the character is under the age of 12 or not.
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Exactly! That's why I thought loli was anything under 18 because that's big boy up the ass prison no matter what it is.
 
Maeis said:
That's pretty gross. I didn't really understand why people were so obsessed with calling out loli since "it's just pictures" was also my opinion. But if they're tracing CP, fuck that.
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Maeis said:
even if there's a chance of that I'd never touch the stuff. I literally hunt pedos for the glowies for my job, so I have to see that shit. It's awful.

I dunno if that makes me a "fed" since i'm not part of the 3 letter agencies.
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Maeis said:
There's also the problem that "loli" is actually a big range. There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies. Which is less abhorant than a literal kid even if it's still gross. So, lolicons who are actually hebes might balk at you showing them preeteen loli and asking them what the fuck and muddy the issue (even though it's still really gross.)
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Maeis said:
Also, what I'm considering lolicon would be like teenage minors, not literal five year olds. Even I can't lolbertarian my way there.
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Maeis said:
I did not backread hundreds of pages of posts, no.
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Maeis said:
I am threadbanned from the lolicon defenders thread, so I say it here

I, Maeis, hereby retract any support I have given to lolicons and apologize for not knowing shit.
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It's good that you're apologizing, but stop pretending that you didn't know what loli meant. You already posted last year that you knew it means prepubescent and early pubescent characters. You already said last year that you were disgusting at lolicons tracing CSAM. You already said last year that you would never touch lolicon because you hunt pedos as a job. Also, don't give me this "I didn't read 100s of pages of backlog" bullshit, your first post was 420 pages ago on page 75, and that's putting aside the idea that you didn't think it was a good idea to read the OP to find out what the thread topic was.
 
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Maeis said:
-bruh-
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Pornography is naturally exploitative. Teenagers should not be in porn, nor should they be the targets of sexual advances by adults. If for some reason a horny teenager decides to attempt a sexual encounter with someone who is an adult, they should be turned down as they genuinely shouldn't be fucking at that age. If they do it with someone in their age group, they should still be spurned for foolish behavior and be taught about the dangers of teenage pregnancy.
 
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volatile puar said:
It's good that you're apologizing, but stop pretending that you didn't know what loli meant.
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Not quite.
volatile puar said:
You already posted last year that you knew it means prepubescent and early pubescent characters.
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Well, apparently it only means literal kids, not teenagers, which I didn't know
volatile puar said:
You already said last year that you were disgusting at lolicons tracing CSAM.
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Still am, never said I wasn't.
volatile puar said:
You already said last year that you would never touch lolicon because you hunt pedos as a job.
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I never touched lolicon. You probably won't believe this but it is, in fact, an intellectual thing for me to debate it

"hunting pedos as a job" is a bit of a stretch, i'll admit to that, I had just (indirectly) gotten a guy arrested by facilitating the people who did catch him and felt good about that.
volatile puar said:
Also, don't give me this "I didn't read 100s of pages of backlog" bullshit, your first post was 420 pages ago on page 75, and that's putting aside the idea that you didn't think it was a good idea to read the OP to find out what the thread topic was.
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Both times I just went to the latest page. I have not been keeping up with the thread for a year.
 
Maeis said:
The fuck? I thought lolicon was a catch-all for anyone who wasn't "canonically" 18.
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Dude, you literally got told this wasn't the case nearly a month ago. You already forgot?
The Lawgiver said:
The trope is characters that are visually really young, preteen shit. I have no clue how the fuck you missed this. It's literally why lolicons are viewed as extremely disgusting.
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Rux said:
Dude, you literally got told this wasn't the case nearly a month ago. You already forgot?
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The farms are shitting themselves right now so I can't look back at the context, but if I were to hazard a guess, I believed that both of these were correct; hence the catch-all. If someone is drawing 5 year olds I can rightfully hate this while also saying that the 15 year old isn't nearly as bad.
 
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Maeis said:
I did not, and I agree I probably should have.
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That doesn’t matter. The origin of loli is still discussed on the thread, and you want me to believe the in 5 to 7 months you never saw one piece of lolicon artwork. Bullshit. I didn’t read the OP, but I’ve learned nothing about lolicon today. You are walking everything back, because you don’t want the pedo triangle.
 
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Maeis said:
It's not about legality at that point but what society thinks is creepy; as a 30 year old man dating really close to what's legal is creepy.
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I don't think being with a 25 year old is creepy, and I don't think having contact with anyone under 25 as a 30 year old man is creepy. Fake internet moralfagging over "age gaps" as small as 5 years between adults because "society" (women on twitter) thinks its creepy is the most longhoused thing I can imagine.
Maeis said:
Exactly! That's why I thought loli was anything under 18 because that's big boy up the ass prison no matter what it is.
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Then you understand why this eureka moment doesn't change anything about why you don't support banning lolicon. The distinction will not exist legally, so realizing that lolicon refers to characters under the age of 12 isn't relevant.

You don't have to fake agree with internet keyboard warriors that call you a pedo when you can just move on with your life. This is the definition of insanity, isn't it? You've done it again and again, even being threadbanned (i don't know much about you but you said that), and you are still here just because some nothingburger callout thread was made. The whole while you are powerleveling about personal details which can and will be used against you. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
 
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Mayfly said:
You don't have to fake agree with internet keyboard warriors that call you a pedo when you can just move on with your life. This is the definition of insanity, isn't it? You've done it again and again, even being threadbanned (i don't know much about you but you said that), and you are still here just because some nothingburger callout thread was made. The whole while you are powerleveling about personal details which can and will be used against you. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
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I've explained here what my motivation is, if it makes sense:
Maeis said:
Also, I wanted to edit this in, but I want people to definitely see it, so I'll double post (Ninja'd, someone else posted.) I help in an indirect way to getting people put in prison for decades. They are pedophiles, they deserve every second of that. Lolicons do not. That is where the disconnect comes from and how people like to group the two. To me, decades in prison is worse than a bullet. So, I'd really rather devote the "thought space" to people who actually 100% deserve being in a cage.

(Obviously, if a lolicon offends in real life, he gets "upgraded" to a pedophile in my mind.)
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Maeis said:
There's also the problem that "loli" is actually a big range. There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies. Which is less abhorant than a literal kid even if it's still gross. So, lolicons who are actually hebes might balk at you showing them preeteen loli and asking them what the fuck and muddy the issue (even though it's still really gross.)
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Maeis said:
Well, apparently it only means literal kids, not teenagers, which I didn't know
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In your words, there is a "big range" of "loli". What is that range? "There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies". In your own words, lolicons are either "actually hebes" or people who like "preteen loli". Stop thinking you're clever, you're an idiot who willingly told people on a gossip forum that he engaged in erotic roleplay with strangers on the Internet when he was as young as 12.
 
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Rux said:
So you chose not to believe Lawgiver and decided to double-down on your retarded viewpoint of what loli is? And where did that lead you?
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nowhere good.

DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
@Maeis I was mistaken. You clearly were, in fact, being disingenuous. Immediately after being given an out, you went right back to defending people jacking it to drawn child porn.

If you want to keep digging yourself into a deeper hole, by all means, continue.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to, whether it's the revelations from a year ago or a month ago
 
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