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East_Clintwood said:
Just checked his insta and he's still posting about it, these are the last couple related to it:
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Apparently the new bolt carrier design was needed because the previous one failed entirely during testing some time back in September.
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So it's not actually a VSS clone as he claimed, it's some unholy amalgam of kludged together parts? Meth is a helluva drug... This will never reach mass production anyway, just feels like yet another repeat of HMG STG.

Speaking of, the page is still up and marked as Shipping Soon!

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East_Clintwood said:
Just checked his insta and he's still posting about it, these are the last couple related to it:
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Apparently the new bolt carrier design was needed because the previous one failed entirely during testing some time back in September.
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To no surprise of anyone with even an iota off insight in mechanics, if he used that grabcad file as a base (which it looks like) those cams look like they couldn't even stand up to a 9mm let alone anything rifle caliber, the bolt lugs weren't far behind.
Looks like Ian can hold onto his money: a) it's not going to be ready before the end of the year and b) it's not a 100% copy of the VSS, not even close. What a fraud, the delusions of grandeur in those instagram posts, I can't even.:story:
WhoBusTank69 said:
"ARVSS1" that uses 556 AK magazines
This is worse than the cast dust covers
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Almost forgot about those, they looked like sandblasted plastic, not a square edge in sight.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
Someone post that video of Chinese special forces training and the targets showing their bullets are tumbling sideways because their guns are garbage.
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You mean the vide of them firing rubber training rounds for CQB practice
To believe that QBZ-191's consistently keyhole with standard ammunition is to believe that the Chinese were perfectly capable of pressing the "Rifle the barrel" button on the barrel rifling machine up until 2019 at which point they became collectively retarded and incapable of pressing the "rifle the barrel" button or at the very least rifling a barrel properly (which they were able to do with the Type 56 (AK), Type 56 (SKS), Type 56 (RPD), Type 63, Type 81, QBZ-95 (and all it's variants) and QZB-03's) but not the 191 for some reason).

D.I. Grim said:
Any news on the BSD VSS? If they want to have them ready 'by the end of the year' if I remember correctly, they're running out of time...
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Lol, lmao

You'll have better luck waiting for the SMO to end so this foreign fighter dude can come back to the states and launch his own effort
East_Clintwood said:
Just checked his insta and he's still posting about it, these are the last couple related to it:
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Apparently the new bolt carrier design was needed because the previous one failed entirely during testing some time back in September.
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"I'm gonna make a VSS clone, I have TDP's bro and I'm not accepting preorders! *hits meth pipe*"
"actually I'm accepting preorders"
"Ok I'm not making a VSS clone it's going to be an entirely unique thing" <==] you are here
"I spent all the preorder money on meth and it turns out bending sheet metal is actually a lot harder than folding paper, nobody gets any guns"

I can't believe we got HMG 2.0 before we got GTA 6
 
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Slurgle said:
The difference is that this VSS thing never fooled anyone.
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the HMG STG story really chaps my ass. from all that i saw during the whole debacle it should have gotten into production. They had firing models, and made compromises to ease production (G3 trigger pack, AR mags) but it was all fucked because of poor money management and large egos.

and Karl and Ian's kiss of death.
 
AGPinochet said:
To believe that QBZ-191's consistently keyhole with standard ammunition is to believe that the Chinese were perfectly capable of pressing the "Rifle the barrel" button on the barrel rifling machine up until 2019 at which point they became collectively retarded and incapable of pressing the "rifle the barrel" button or at the very least rifling a barrel properly
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To be fair to such people China appeared to be able to build bridges until yesterday so it's not a completely unreasonable theory.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
the HMG STG story really chaps my ass. from all that i saw during the whole debacle it should have gotten into production. They had firing models, and made compromises to ease production (G3 trigger pack, AR mags) but it was all fucked because of poor money management and large egos.

and Karl and Ian's kiss of death.
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This probably isn't true but I read years ago once on /k/ posts by this guy claiming to know the guy who ran HMG and he said that he ended up in a mental hospital from the stress of trying to bring the guns to market.
 
AGPinochet said:
You mean the vide of them firing rubber training rounds for CQB practice
To believe that QBZ-191's consistently keyhole with standard ammunition is to believe that the Chinese were perfectly capable of pressing the "Rifle the barrel" button on the barrel rifling machine up until 2019 at which point they became collectively retarded and incapable of pressing the "rifle the barrel" button or at the very least rifling a barrel properly (which they were able to do with the Type 56 (AK), Type 56 (SKS), Type 56 (RPD), Type 63, Type 81, QBZ-95 (and all it's variants) and QZB-03's) but not the 191 for some reason).
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Not to say you aren’t right but there are other reasons for keyholing to occur. Twist rate, bullet length and velocity are some of the factors that could cause this just off the top of my head.
 
I know manufacturing guns is hard and running a business in general is hard but JP Morgan built the transcontinental railroad with less time, money, drama, scams, and suicide attempts.
 
Zorak Prison Pod said:
I know manufacturing guns is hard and running a business in general is hard but JP Morgan built the transcontinental railroad with less time, money, drama, scams, and suicide attempts.
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He did that at a time when he could send Pinkertons to kill anyone who got in his way and had all of Congress in his pocket.
 
Comedian: "It's great to be here in Arizona. It's hotter than the surface of the sun out here!"
Kiwi Farms: "Uh *pushes up glasses* that's technically impossible since we're a rocky planet, not a star."
 
waffle said:
The methhead vss went from "it's gonna be clone correct" to "well, it'll look pretty close and perform similarly" in record time.

Has a look-a-like (but not clone) gun project ever been successful, or even just not a catastrophic failure?
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No, it's someone who finally decide to finish my engineering degree. Engineering is extremely difficult and is not something a bunch of college dropout retards can oversee. Also. Brendan Herrera and his group of homosexual gay lovers on the unsubscribe podcasts or a glorified recruiting ad for the US Army. And I wouldn't trust that guy in Congress, but probably be an even worse. Version of Zio Klops.
 
waffle said:
Has a look-a-like (but not clone) gun project ever been successful, or even just not a catastrophic failure?
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One of my redneck neighbors made a M110 we have at home with the barrel sleeve and all. Ended up deciding that either he missed a step or it was a terrible design to begin with and parted it out. Now he's got the bug again and he wants to make it look right but also not be ass at suppression. So he will occasionally tell me about his latest idea on how to do this and I suspect he will succeed in getting it to work but I'm unsure if it will actually be a success.

Also he's starting with a ar-10 and machining the barrel bits which I suspect is a lot easier than the whole burrito.
 
Brendan Herrera and his group of homosexual gay lovers on the unsubscribe podcasts or a glorified recruiting ad for the US Army. And I wouldn't trust that guy in Congress, but probably be an even worse. Version of Zio Klops.


Is Brandon Herrera confirmed gay? I always thought that was just a rumor, but if it’s true, it makes sense why he is a youtuber running for political office.
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Gun design is especially difficult, which probably explains why you have a few household names doing most of it. Browning, Stoner, etc.

Especially when you have to worry about pesky problems like manufacturability and it bankrupting you. That's why I don't admire Soviet bloc designer since they didn't have to make it commercially viable, much easier.

Stoner did an interview where he said as such, that most of the trained engineers he worked with were in fact useless at gun design. Need to be extremely mechanically gifted to cut it and know how all the machining works.
 
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