The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

In retrospect, the only theory this episode confirms is the rewriting one, Jax didn't give a single shit about Kaufmo abstraction on the pilot and somehow you now want me to believe he was important to him as Ribbit, give me a break.
 
Sparky Lurker said:
In retrospect, the only theory this episode confirms is the rewriting one, Jax didn't give a single shit about Kaufmo abstraction on the pilot and somehow you now want me to believe he was important to him as Ribbit, give me a break.
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Good point. I don’t think that was a theory though? Troongoose already confessed to rewriting the script a couple times.
 
Well fuck me for caring about the thing that was established since the first episode.

Also, if Caine was so worried about Kinger finding out the truth, why did he send him on multiple adventures where he would be in the dark?
 
Kid Named Rocket said:
My boy Jax still LIVES, so I'm happy
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Controlled Demolition said:
And the I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream (at least the game) comparison is somewhat apt, because it tries to be a character-driven exploration of isolated people controlled by an AI. Except all but one of the characters get insufficient individual spotlight, most of the characters aren't really developed at all, and the AI deliberately has no real drive or personality, so there's no interesting exploration of characters' flaws for the purposes of torture either.
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There are also some King in Yellow references with how "Everything is a play, and they inevitably go insane in their attempt to perform it," but that may just be unintentional, given the quality of the rest of the writing.
 
I like fuck you endings so this was okay. But I knew nothing was really going to happen because we still have two episodes left. I don't mind the build up but after binging the series a while ago and this being the first one that wasn't readily available for me, I get why people here are sick of getting blue balled after so long.
 
BigJoey41X said:
Goose says its going to "divide the fandom" or some shit, I don't really get what he meant by that, the only thing substantial happening is Caine effectively turning himself into a full antagonist after 6 episodes of ambiguity surrounding his motives
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Maybe if they stuck to the original premise, Jax hitting the button would have actually been interesting conversation
Kid Named Rocket said:
My boy Jax still LIVES, so I'm happy
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Honestly after seeing his bedroom, I think he really is a faggot
 
harmy.kook said:
Honestly after seeing his bedroom, I think he really is a faggot
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he is 100% a repressor, maybe gay, or maybe trans, but whatever he is, he's clearly not that comfortable with his identity, which is a very common theme in LGBT media, yes, it would be extremely anti-climactic, but I would honestly respect the attempt more than getting mad for boiling down ALL of his current issues as just that.
 
Kalsarikännit said:
Isn't One Piece a perfect example of that exact thing?
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Problem with One Piece is Oda is trying to explain the entire world

...but his world is 5 to 10 times the size of Earth and extremely spread out.
BigJoey41X said:
yes, it would be extremely anti-climactic, but I would honestly respect the attempt more than get mad for boiling down ALL of his current issues as just that.
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Would also possible explain the "flashbacks" to his* "past".

Probably came out as a fag, pooner, or troon, and got kicked out. Then got ran over by a truck.
 
goodbudweiser said:
This is just like Fionna and Cake where nothing happens they just drag along bare bone bites of lore and "romance".
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It's slop meant to be made into 12 hour lore break down videos, bought as plushies, and masturbated to in RP discord channels with minors instead of watched as a show
 
what is with everyone here still crying about lorebaiting?, the point of the episode is to implicitly tell the audience that shit doesn't matter at all and it even kinda makes fun of you for doing so, its the "characters" that you should care for, even though there was also comparably not much development compared to previous episodes, and lets be honest here, most of the cast is not even that interesting aside from Jax self-destructing.
 
BigJoey41X said:
what is with everyone here still crying about lorebaiting?
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Because they already did that Murder Drones?

The JJ Abrams approach to writing has constantly been used to get around actually telling a story way too much nowadays. Trying to lampshade it and make fun of people for wanting a coherent story tanks interest.

And people have grown tired of it.
 
Watched the new episode.

I didn't buy any of it for a second. The scenario is already so obviously lifted from stuff like Sword Art Online and Portal, and Wonder Egg Priority is way too recent for people not to remember that shitshow, that I could tell this was the showrunners trying to shoot down the obvious angle to troll the audience. But I feel like if that was the whole point, it should've been how the episode started and then wrapped in the first five minutes, and then go do literally anything else than it so I don't just sit there bored for the whole episode. Plus they should also realize that by doing this episode, any pivot to make it this anyways will be hit with critical lambasting.
 
Controlled Demolition said:
Explicit vore reference, check. Nothing actually happening, check. Jax being the only real character, check. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Baby's First I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream got a second season, if the sales are good enough. So expect episode nine to be another nothingburger, except with a cliffhanger.
And the I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream (at least the game) comparison is somewhat apt, because it tries to be a character-driven exploration of isolated people controlled by an AI. Except all but one of the characters get insufficient individual spotlight, most of the characters aren't really developed at all, and the AI deliberately has no real drive or personality, so there's no interesting exploration of characters' flaws for the purposes of torture either. The SOMA part comes with the incoming twist where ooo they were all scanned when they put on the headset and this is just their scanned personalities interacting and they don't remember their names because it's an imperfect scan that doesn't preserve all memories and oooo they "abstract" because they're literally just bad simulations of people. Which also gives the convenient excuse of bad writing and why none of them really behaved intelligently or like real people.
I liked the part where Jax told the tranny allegory to fuck off with its body dysmorphia bullshit.
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This isn't baby's first i have no mouth.
It's smiling friends for tranny discord groomers.

All the stuff about the simulation is treated as unimportant by the plot, was abandoned immediately, and has barely been advanced. There's no reason for it and the series could easily just be about these wacky characters in this wacky world where people just look like that working at a temp office run by caine because that's essentially what they treat most of the plot as already.

I haven't read it, but digital circus also seems very much like the japanese series chiikawa which are also about cutesy characters that have to do jobs, but if they get stressed they turn into violent monsters.

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Vibralldo said:
I haven't read it, but digital circus also seems very much like the japanese series chiikawa which are also about cutesy characters that have to do jobs, but if they get stressed they turn into violent monsters.
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Leave Chiikawa out of this.

I'm so tired of this post-ironic, cynical, nihilistic bullshit in storytelling.
Haha, fuck you for caring about the plot, nothing really matters, let's just torture both the characters and the audience for the sake of it, with the side of tranny self insert yuri fanfic on the side. THAT'S what important.
I had a discussion with a friend who liked the episode. When I expressed disappointed over the cheap twist, they got upset at me.
"It's about the characters and their emotions, not the plot itself!"
No, fuck you. We can have both - the melodrama around the character development AND a substantial, satisfying plot. Twin Peaks exist.
 
Makes me wonder if troonworx saying "this episode totally gonna divide the fandom guise" is there so it can be used as an excuse to defend shitty writing and deflect most criticism when people call it out as such
"Oh you don't like it? that's the point, it's meant to be divisive and make people mad!"
probably not but I do wonder
 
BigJoey41X said:
what is with everyone here still crying about lorebaiting?, the point of the episode is to implicitly tell the audience that shit doesn't matter at all and it even kinda makes fun of you for doing so
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Funny you say that, because that’s also a staple of millennial writing too. The creators are basically jerking themselves off because they’re so super smart and refuse to do the obvious thing.

Steven Universe did it by mocking the obvious sappy finale of Steven meeting his mom Rose in that crossover episode. Adventure Time did it with Finn’s dad—because of course they were so smart for subverting the fantasy trope of his dad abandoning him for a good reason by making him a loser. Rick and Morty did an episode mocking all the Evil Morty theories before the actual finale, etc.

Credit where credit’s due: it is a fun episode, and if it worked for you it was suspenseful right to the very end. They did take a huge risk and it did pay off. But it’s also super self-congratulatory because the creators are basically patting themselves on the back for not doing the obvious thing.
 
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