Mega Rad Gun Thread

The agony of gin choice haunts me yet again.

6.5 creedmore, folding stock, ~22-24 inch barrel, good Customer service

Options: Ruger Precision rifle (out the Door $1450)

Shot one before, liked it. Gen 4 is better, ARCA rail, mlok, better stock.

Or, wait a bit for a Seekins Precision HIT Pro M3 6.5 24 inch

$800 more but it's extremely nice with even better CS than Ruger and a Trigger tech diamond installed from factory.

Both fold for storage/transport, look cool (most important thing) and I'd be happy installing a bipod and my Burris XTR Pro 5.5-30 and blasting steel and paper immediately.

Help me spend my money 🤑
I'd go with the Ruger Precision, with one caveat: if you're not shooting long-range (past 500 meters) often, go with the .308 version.

.308 is significantly cheaper, and the ballistics between 6.5 CM and .308 Winchester are about the same to ~500 meters. There's a better variety of bullet designs and loads in .308 with greater aftermarket support in most platforms.

Chances are you can't shoot well enough for the difference between the Ruger and the Seekins to make an actual difference. Nothing wrong with that, it's not like you're Annie Oakley.
 
Ruger Precision rifle (out the Door $1450)

Seekins Precision HIT Pro M3 6.5 24 inch
It sounds like the Ruger is your "settle" option and you actually want the Seekins. What ranges are you planning to shoot, though? After a certain amount there's no sense in throwing more money at a sub-500 yard gun, people have spent less on improving bare-bones Remingtons and Savage rifles to perform at ~1,000.
 
I mean you guys have less strict gun laws than Mexico
Dude we have better gunlaws than a good chunk of the United States, Mexico doesn't come anywhere near close to us.
are tauruses reasonably priced in argentina since brazil is right there or is there a bunch of political bullshit? the semi autos are of questionable repute but the revolvers are great for the price
They're not *as* horrendously priced but still much higher than what they are in America, thankfully there are a lot of older used Colts which are high quality and relatively cheap though you may have to do some work on the timing.

Cheap guns are really either used old early 1900s or lucky finds, and still not really all that cheap by US standards, we have three current gun manufacturers in Argentina (four when I get my commercial license): Bersa, Rexio and Fabricaciones Militares.
 
i really like the old bersa thunder 9 and i really want two to shoot them akimbo because they have fully ambidextrous controls

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Dude we have better gunlaws than a good chunk of the United States, Mexico doesn't come anywhere near close to us.
That is true, Some of the shithole states have implemented military style weapons bans and magazine restrictions to only 10 rounds. I imagine you can get an AR and 30+ round magazines in Argentina.
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The agony of gin choice haunts me yet again.

6.5 creedmore, folding stock, ~22-24 inch barrel, good Customer service

Options: Ruger Precision rifle (out the Door $1450)

Shot one before, liked it. Gen 4 is better, ARCA rail, mlok, better stock.

Or, wait a bit for a Seekins Precision HIT Pro M3 6.5 24 inch

$800 more but it's extremely nice with even better CS than Ruger and a Trigger tech diamond installed from factory.

Both fold for storage/transport, look cool (most important thing) and I'd be happy installing a bipod and my Burris XTR Pro 5.5-30 and blasting steel and paper immediately.

Help me spend my money 🤑
You can get gin for far cheaper if you shop around at the liquor store.
 
That is true, Some of the shithole states have implemented military style weapons bans and magazine restrictions to only 10 rounds. I imagine you can get an AR and 30+ round magazines in Argentina.
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Technically it’s not a mag ban just a purchase ban and annoyance. I don’t suggest going out of some the ban states to pick up new mags as I’d never suggest breaking the law.
 
Apparently Ruger has filed a patent for a double stack .22lr pistol magazine. The patent blueprints show it in a 22/45 style pistol, but I'd imagine they'd also make a version for the Mark style pistols. Perhaps when the new Mk V and 22/45 pistols based on it inevitably come out, they will run with double stack mags?
 
Get one in 6.5 PRC. It sounds as if it's what Christensen Arms MPR is supposed to be (never buy anything from Christensen Arms).
Agreed about never giving Christensen arms money.

I'll stick with 6.5 CM 🤠
I'd go with the Ruger Precision, with one caveat: if you're not shooting long-range (past 500 meters) often, go with the .308 version.

.308 is significantly cheaper, and the ballistics between 6.5 CM and .308 Winchester are about the same to ~500 meters. There's a better variety of bullet designs and loads in .308 with greater aftermarket support in most platforms.

Chances are you can't shoot well enough for the difference between the Ruger and the Seekins to make an actual difference. Nothing wrong with that, it's not like you're Annie Oakley.
1300 yards is as long as my local place goes.

Ehh had a .308, sold it to my Dad.

You're correct that both rifles will out shoot me for sure.

It's ~$900 to get the Seekins vs the Ruger. Is a nicer trigger, a dust cover and a rifle put together with more care by a smaller corp worth that?

Beyond that both fold, both have an ARCA rail underneath, Mlok on the sides, picatinney up top, and take common mags.
It sounds like the Ruger is your "settle" option and you actually want the Seekins. What ranges are you planning to shoot, though? After a certain amount there's no sense in throwing more money at a sub-500 yard gun, people have spent less on improving bare-bones Remingtons and Savage rifles to perform at ~1,000.
Ehhh not settle just the "other option". Something to pop my scope and a bipod on and go shoot steel and paper.

I want a folding stock, good CS, and just a "grab and go" rifle vs a reddit autism "bro just buy a $2500 barreled action with 1-3 month wait time from some guy on a forum then drop $1000+ on a chassis". The Tikka chassis rifles are, IMHO, overpriced and if I'm dropping over $2k I'm getting something MiUSA (sorry Finns). Aero solus.... Yeah Aero might be dead in 4-6 months.

I've shot a buddies RPR (Gen 3) in 6.5 CM and I liked it a good amount.

My local long range gets out to 1300 yards.

I have ZERO desire to drop more than ~$2400 on a rifle. Already got a damn good scope so thank God for small mercies to my wallet.

Both the Ruger and the Seekins will handily outshoot me.

Let's put this way, if the Gun Santa gave me either rifle this Christmas for free I'd be VERY pleased.
You can get gin for far cheaper if you shop around at the liquor store.
Ahaha gotta love typos. I don't even drink gin.
 
Apparently Ruger has filed a patent for a double stack .22lr pistol magazine. The patent blueprints show it in a 22/45 style pistol, but I'd imagine they'd also make a version for the Mark style pistols. Perhaps when the new Mk V and 22/45 pistols based on it inevitably come out, they will run with double stack mags?
I want to like the 22/45 but the polymer lower just doesn't sit well with me. My MkIV standard on the other hand is almost the perfect .22 automatic. Heavy so there is no muzzle climb and I actually quite like the Ruger/Nambu/Luger grip angle.

The smooth tapered barrel is also pleasing to the eye. I can pretty easily hit my 100 yard dinner plate once i get the hold over right.
 
That is true, Some of the shithole states have implemented military style weapons bans and magazine restrictions to only 10 rounds. I imagine you can get an AR and 30+ round magazines in Argentina.
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Colorado prohibits magazines larger than 15rds (which finding for STANAG is a pain in the dick). After August of '26 your sheriff will have to sign off on you buying new assault rifles.
 
I want to like the 22/45 but the polymer lower just doesn't sit well with me. My MkIV standard on the other hand is almost the perfect .22 automatic. Heavy so there is no muzzle climb and I actually quite like the Ruger/Nambu/Luger grip angle.

The smooth tapered barrel is also pleasing to the eye. I can pretty easily hit my 100 yard dinner plate once i get the hold over right.
I'm ok with the polymer lower as it gives me that 1911 esque grip angle.

The normal Mk4 really is more of a target pistol.
 
Colorado prohibits magazines larger than 15rds (which finding for STANAG is a pain in the dick). After August of '26 your sheriff will have to sign off on you buying new assault rifles.

The one good thing I'll say is that unless you live in Denver (you've got bigger problems) the higher capacity mags are "grandfathered" in and the burden of proof is upon them that you didn't have them prior to 2013. Local LEO truly don't care. If the county I've got family land in is fucking you on that you're already in shit and they're just trying to stack charges on you.
 
I'm ok with the polymer lower as it gives me that 1911 esque grip angle.

The normal Mk4 really is more of a target pistol.
the standard is all purpose .22lr. it has fixed sights and a tapered barrel to decrease some weight. its a great gun to have when you are working your garden and need to kill a rabbit or a fox raiding the hen house. or a sidearm hunting.
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the Mk series developed into a target pistol due to it's inherit accuracy but that is not what it was built for originally.
 
the standard is all purpose .22lr. it has fixed sights and a tapered barrel to decrease some weight. its a great gun to have when you are working your garden and need to kill a rabbit or a fox raiding the hen house. or a sidearm hunting.
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the Mk series developed into a target pistol due to it's inherit accuracy but that is not what it was built for originally.
*Target pistol to me due to the grip.

The Ruger Mk4 22/45 series are excellent .22lr semi autos

I very may well buy one this holiday 😜
 
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I imagine you can get an AR and 30+ round magazines in Argentina.
As of this year you can but annoyingly you need to have had your license for 5 years, whilst it's good to be allowed at all it's gay and retarded to have a time requirement like that. You also need to be a member of a shooting club as the ARs fall under "sporting" purposes. They are very new rules so it's likely they'll change again and get relaxed further, otherwise it's a pinned magazine only for your semiauto rifles (.22lr and .22mag are excluded, pccs too as they're considered "pistols" no matter the barrel length)

That only applies to rifles though, shotguns can have detachable magazines and be semiauto all day long like the Spas15 and pccs don't count like I mentioned before, no rules about stocks or barrel lengths so people just buy pccs and fit them with stocks, same with handguns using those conversion kits. I 3D printed a chassis for my turk glock clone. No regulations on magazine capacity or "features" I was talking to a US fren the other day and found out he couldn't own my silly bersa because it's got a threaded barrel.

Carrying is the big thing that progun orgs are pushing, you CAN get a carry license now and I managed to get one but the process is may issue and very few people can actually get one, the big push now is to make it so that just having a gun license also works as a carry license and it's got a big push in congress so fingers crossed!
 
That is true, Some of the shithole states have implemented military style weapons bans and magazine restrictions to only 10 rounds. I imagine you can get an AR and 30+ round magazines in Argentina.
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This map doesn't really paint an accurate picture. For example Maryland allows AR-15 ownership but they ban certain features such as "collapsing stocks," "flash suppressors," lightweight barrels, and "high capacity" magazines. You are however allowed to possess high capacity magazines. When the law first came out, all it did was target weapons with dangerous sound names so all the rifle manufacturers changed the names to sell in Maryland. Lot of sporting ARs and AKs sold in the 2010s.

This January, Virginia is about to join the list because the GOP shit the bed during the election, badly I might add. Governor Youngkin veto'ed a series of gun control bills last year that the state assembly passed as a token measure even though they knew it was going to get veto'ed with Dan Helmer's assault weapon ban passing for the first time since he tried introducing it years ago. Beyond that, it looks like mandatory waiting periods, magazine capacity bans, and required gun permit purchasing with mandatory finger printing with the state police. Someone in the state assembly has come out saying they are going to do gun control and see New York's law's as the ceiling. By the way, they won't decriminalize violent behavior and have yet to introduce a bill that adds penalties for using an "assault weapon" in a violent crime. It's almost as if they don't really care about violent crime and rather strip law-abiding citizens of their rights.

I could write more but this isn't the thread to do it in.

The one good thing I'll say is that unless you live in Denver (you've got bigger problems) the higher capacity mags are "grandfathered" in and the burden of proof is upon them that you didn't have them prior to 2013. Local LEO truly don't care. If the county I've got family land in is fucking you on that you're already in shit and they're just trying to stack charges on you.
I remember the tranch thread, the troon milita had all sort of stuff that was illegal in Denver but the rest of the state wouldn't enforce. Of course, being self-centered trannies, they refused any sort of 2A activism beyond their tribe and refuse to criticize their left wing "allies" for being anti-gun.
 
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