Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Mola Ram]

Regarding Avik Roy's comment: that isn't implied at all by his statement. That comment merely points out the uselessness of shrieking lefty hyperbole, you dishonest fat fuck.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Regarding Avik Roy's comment: that isn't implied at all by his statement. That comment merely points out the uselessness of shrieking lefty hyperbole, you dishonest fat fuck.

I think Bob is mad that this millions hyperbole isn't actually happening to all the Trump voters and people in Middle America. We are talking about a man who has once played with the idea of of Eugenics(which deep down he still agrees with), has a dangerous black and white look at society, and is deterministic to a fault.

 

[Gordon Cole]

So much for having "26 hours" worth of work:

 

[His Dewliness]

Ironically when companies move out of the US they tend to move to somewhere that uses LESS technology/robotics rather than more, a good comparison is car factories vs toy factories. Car factories in industrialised countries make heavy use of robotics whilst toy factories (normally in China obviously) are closer to the old assembly lines of the 40's with much less robotics involved.

So when Bob rejoices that a factory moves out of the US and thus taking us all a little step closer to the Superiah Futah it probably moves to China and has way more actual employees on an assembly line and way less robotics.

Also his point about modernising areas with jobs that aren't going obsolete is beyond stupid since it requires literally seeing the future.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Ironically when companies move out of the US they tend to move to somewhere that uses LESS technology/robotics rather than more, a good comparison is car factories vs toy factories. Car factories in industrialised countries make heavy use of robotics whilst toy factories (normally in China obviously) are closer to the old assembly lines of the 40's with much less robotics involved.

So when Bob rejoices that a factory moves out of the US and thus taking us all a little step closer to the Superiah Futah it probably moves to China and has way more actual employees on an assembly line and way less robotics.

Also his point about modernising areas with jobs that aren't going obsolete is beyond stupid since it requires literally seeing the future.

Does he care about "modernizing" them? I thought his only suggestions were along the lines of "fill them with brown people who'd also lose their jobs to the robots that exist in my head and be angry as fuck for being manipulated. It'll make me feel good".

 

[Emperor Julian]

I suppose it's never occured to him that China's 'advantage' is that they can treat their workers like shit and get away with it. It's also most likely never occured how dangerous it is long run to have the worlds primary manufacturer as a regime completly out of lockstep with the neo-liberal globalist ideals he's so fond off, the moment it works for them to fuck us they will. Frankly I'd be wary of it if Britain was the big industrial power if I was an American muchless a morally bankrupt communist regime.

 

[AnOminous]

I suppose it's never occured to him that China's 'advantage' is that they can treat their workers like shit and get away with it. It's also most likely never occured how dangerous it is long run to have the worlds primary manufacturer as a regime completly out of lockstep with the neo-liberal globalist ideals he's so fond off, the moment it works for them to fuck us they will. Frankly I'd be wary of it if Britain was the big industrial power if I was an American muchless a morally bankrupt communist regime.

In his "superior future," blue collar workers are either reduced to slavery with no voting rights or simply exterminated like vermin.

 

[Emperor Julian]

In his "superior future," blue collar workers are either reduced to slavery with no voting rights or simply exterminated like vermin.

It's funny the more I think on it the dumber it gets, like how the collapse of working class wealth would result in total stagnation of social mobility and establish a hereditary aristocracy within a generation. Not to mention the inevitable underclass crime empire's potentially destabalizing the status quo. I keep thinking of 2000ad's nicholai dante comics and judge dredd when I imaging his superior future.

 

[His Dewliness]

Does he care about "modernizing" them? I thought his only suggestions were along the lines of "fill them with brown people who'd also lose their jobs to the robots that exist in my head and be angry as fuck for being manipulated. It'll make me feel good".

I guess Bob would argue that's modernising somewhere. Either that or he means putting a branch office of a 4th rate tech company in every town where a factory gets closed so that all the 45 year old unemployed skilled workers can "just learn to code" and get a new job because I'm sure Bob is one of those obnoxious people who thinks coding is something that everyone can just pick up like it's the easiest thing in the world.

EDIT: Obviously this only applies to people in coastal states since the Lord our Bob decrees everyone in the mid-West to be irredeemable subhumans whose destruction should be relished

 

[RockVolnutt]

It's funny the more I think on it the dumber it gets, like how the collapse of working class wealth would result in total stagnation of social mobility and establish a hereditary aristocracy within a generation. Not to mention the inevitable underclass crime empire's potentially destabalizing the status quo. I keep thinking of 2000ad's nicholai dante comics and judge dredd when I imaging his superior future.

That's because he views the rich and powerful as our brightest and have strong morals who drive any change in society. To him any progress is the result of the "Elites" stomping their foot down on the penniless bastards who are the true causes of things like violations of human rights. It makes you wonder why he believes it's everyone else who is brainwashed by mainstream media who simultaneously are and aren't in his elite class.

TL;DR Bob didn't drink the kool-aid. He mixed all the flavors together to make his own.

 

[His Dewliness]

That's because he views the rich and powerful as our brightest and have strong morals who drive any change in society. To him any progress is the result of the "Elites" stomping their foot down on the penniless bastards who are the true causes of things like violations of human rights. It makes you wonder why he believes it's everyone else who is brainwashed by mainstream media who simultaneously are and aren't in his elite class.

TL;DR Bob didn't drink the kool-aid. He mixed all the flavors together to make his own.

Bob's obsession with "elites" has always been confusing to me, he seems to relish the idea that there's someone higher than him with a far reaching vision and some sort of master plan without realising that those same people include(d) people like the Bush family, Reagan, Dick Cheney etc, not to mention the fact that elites in other countries include people like Putin, the house of Saud, various crackpots in central Asia and Africa and other people he likely despises.

For someone who hates Republicans and people with right leaning politics in general, he seems oddly excited about a future where such people have a chance to control the entire direction of society, possibly forever.

I'm likely reading into it a bit too much but if we assume Bob hasn't changed since school, his love of elites could be a reflection of his love/appreciation of teachers and other authority figures who tried to reign in bullies and keep everything under control.

 

[Lensherr]

So much for having "26 hours" worth of work:
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Bob's ramblings sound awfully like social Darwinism here. "Evolve or die" is the summation of most of his rants. The more you think of it, the more depressing his "Superior Future" sounds: everyone outside his little bubble of people he deems worthy is sentenced to aimlessly drift through life without a purpose whilst being forced to rely on handouts from the government. Does he not see the problems that kind of situation could lead to? Because let's just say that he'd likely suffer the same fate as an aristocrat during the French Revolution.

 

[Mola Ram]

Really, his political philosophy is complete nonsense.

* He worships the "elites" but hates Republicans, the traditional party of the elite.

* He despises the working class, but votes straight-ticket Democrat and adores Hillary Clinton, a party and candidate that is at least putatively the party of the working class and was substantively that party for decades.

* He apparently believes automation is totally inevitable and desirable, but fails to recognize how much his precious globalization relies on a poorly-paid underclass rather than worker robots (or whatever he's got in his head -- seriously, he comes across as someone who watched that CGP Grey video "Humans Need Not Apply" and instead of walking away from it troubled and concerned what to do about the future, he came away licking his chops like someone just waved a bucket of fried chicken in front of him).

* He once referred to black women as the most enlightened voters, or some other such numinous garbage, while apparently failing to realize how many from that demographic believe heart and soul in the religions he sneers at as "superstitions."

Help me out here. The more I read his ramblings the less sense it makes. He seems never to have considered any of these contradictions at all, and I just have no idea what the fuck it is he wants ... other than to punish the people he hates, of course. Maybe that's all there is to it.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Help me out here. The more I read his ramblings the less sense it makes. He seems never to have considered any of these contradictions at all, and I just have no idea what the fuck it is he wants ... other than to punish the people he hates, of course. Maybe that's all there is to it.

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Really, his political philosophy is complete nonsense.

* He worships the "elites" but hates Republicans, the traditional party of the elite.

* He despises the working class, but votes straight-ticket Democrat and adores Hillary Clinton, a party and candidate that is at least putatively the party of the working class and was substantively that party for decades.

* He apparently believes automation is totally inevitable and desirable, but fails to recognize how much his precious globalization relies on a poorly-paid underclass rather than worker robots (or whatever he's got in his head -- seriously, he comes across as someone who watched that CGP Grey video "Humans Need Not Apply" and instead of walking away from it troubled and concerned what to do about the future, he came away licking his chops like someone just waved a bucket of fried chicken in front of him).

* He once referred to black women as the most enlightened voters, or some other such numinous garbage, while apparently failing to realize how many from that demographic believe heart and soul in the religions he sneers at as "superstitions."

Help me out here. The more I read his ramblings the less sense it makes. He seems never to have considered any of these contradictions at all, and I just have no idea what the fuck it is he wants ... other than to punish the people he hates, of course. Maybe that's all there is to it.

* He worships the "good elite" aka, Democratic Politicians, CEOs and those who run tech companies, High University, and upper-middle class folks who,"got educated"

* He is a Neo-Liberal, a wing of the party that is made up of ascendant progressives that believe that because they were educated that they have all the answers and that the working class (especially white working class) should know their betters

*Much like Destiny Bonnell, he doesn't care that some Chinese kid might lose his hands on an assembly line, just as long as he gets his I-phone or his Ambiios. The hell with safety, wage, and environmental standards as long as it doesn't happen here. (Note Bob isn't alone in this mindset as many folks on the Left and the Right believing the best way to solve problems is to hide them overseas)

*He believes that simply because minorities vote straight line Democrat most of the time, it is because they believe in the "progressive" cause, rather than for representation, more social economic programs, or some other reasons. He fails to realize that most minorities are socially conservative and religious with distaste for homosexuality. Bob's myopic misunderstanding of what goes on with folks different than himself is a result of willful ignorance and being raised on "non-educational" television his whole life.

 

[Lensherr]

Really, his political philosophy is complete nonsense.

* He worships the "elites" but hates Republicans, the traditional party of the elite.

* He despises the working class, but votes straight-ticket Democrat and adores Hillary Clinton, a party and candidate that is at least putatively the party of the working class and was substantively that party for decades.

* He apparently believes automation is totally inevitable and desirable, but fails to recognize how much his precious globalization relies on a poorly-paid underclass rather than worker robots (or whatever he's got in his head -- seriously, he comes across as someone who watched that CGP Grey video "Humans Need Not Apply" and instead of walking away from it troubled and concerned what to do about the future, he came away licking his chops like someone just waved a bucket of fried chicken in front of him).

* He once referred to black women as the most enlightened voters, or some other such numinous garbage, while apparently failing to realize how many from that demographic believe heart and soul in the religions he sneers at as "superstitions."

Help me out here. The more I read his ramblings the less sense it makes. He seems never to have considered any of these contradictions at all, and I just have no idea what the fuck it is he wants ... other than to punish the people he hates, of course. Maybe that's all there is to it.

In his blog post clarifying his politics, he stated that he sees no need for political ideology, is only concerned with results, and will cherry pick from schools of thought that he sees as helping him achieve the results he wants (i.e., the Superior Future(TM)). That I assume was written to justify his inconsistent beliefs. The problem with this line of thought is that it can inevitably be used to justify atrocities like mass murder because you have no ethical principles backing you that say "this is wrong". It's a form of moral relativism that attempts to frame the results as an objective good while any ethical concerns that stand in the way are an objective bad.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

The problem with this line of thought is that it can inevitably be used to justify atrocities like mass murder because you have no ethical principles backing you that say "this is wrong". It's a form of moral relativism that attempts to frame the results as an objective good while any ethical concerns that stand in the way are an objective bad.

He's already well on his way towards that considering how often he calls for the extermination of the working class and of Republicans in general, not to mention him retweeting how the Republicans who got shot at the baseball game deserved it.

This line of thinking is insanely stupid because, as you say, it frames the results as good and ethical concerns as an objective bad, which in and of itself requires a total lack of empathy on the thinker's part. And Bob has rarely, if ever, been empathetic to those he disagrees with and wants to politically stomp all over.

 

[Mola Ram]

This line of thinking is insanely stupid because, as you say, it frames the results as good and ethical concerns as an objective bad, which in and of itself requires a total lack of empathy on the thinker's part. And Bob has rarely, if ever, been empathetic to those he disagrees with and wants to politically stomp all over.

Well we know Bob defines empathy as "emotional intelligence." I guess he's an emotional re.tard as well as a traditional one.

 

[Emperor Julian]

The elites bob is talking about are either technocratic or intellectual philsopher kings. A sort of enlightened leader by merit of their education. Remember that Bob is a such a thick bastard that he equates intellect with morality so figures his elites will be moral because they're smart. I suspect Bob has never read a history book in his life.

 

[Gordon Cole]

Warning: SPOILERS ahead for Transformers: The Last Knight

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Transformers: The Last Knight is all about big new ideas to the surprisingly expansive Transformers movie-universe mythology, this time concerning the creation of the Transformers themselves, the identity of Cybertron’s apparent creator god, the true nature of Earth and an ancient secret society called The Witwiccans (said to have included everyone from Einstein to Washington to Harriet Tubman) charged to protecting the biggest secret of all: The Transformers have been interacting with humans on Earth for about as long as we’ve been here.

But after Age of Extinction made a major point of severing ties with the original three Transformers films, The Last Knight is also interested in re-establishing connections with the rest of the franchise: a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it photographic cameo confirms that Shia LaBeouf’s Sam Witwicky and The Witwiccans don’t share similar surnames by accident, for one thing. Josh Duhamel’s Col. William Lennox also makes his heavily-promoted return to the series after sitting out Age of Extinction. But the movie also features a surprise on-camera return for one of the other regular characters from the original trilogy who fans may have thought they’d heard the last of: John Turturro’s ex-Sector Seven agent Seymour Simmons!

THE CAMEO

It’s said that John Turturro – a legendary American character actor best known (like a surprising number of other Michael Bay “regulars”) for his work in the films of the Coen Brothers – earns more for his supporting parts in the Transformers movies than for any other acting work he’s ever done. It’s hard to determine if that’s true or not, but Turturro has been in all of these films apart from the fourth one in some capacity. Originally a secondary antagonist in the first film as an agent of the “Sector Seven” covert government organization (a plot device believed by some to exist solely so that the film could secure real military hardware for action scenes by not “disparaging” an actual branch of the service) that at one point imprisons Bumblebee, he returned as an independent-operator in Revenge of The Fallen and Dark of The Moon.

Now, after sitting out Age of Extinction (which left all of the human characters from the first three films in the past as part of its new storlyine), Simmons makes a surprise reappearance as an information contact fielding frantic phonecalls from Anthony Hopkins’ Sir Burton. And while he doesn’t have all that much overall effect on the plot (his role is to tell Burton which library to go to in order to look up a missing piece of Transformers lore – the scene seemingly exists strictly to get Turturro into the film) the situation he finds himself in is unexpected and interesting: Simmons is apparently living in Cuba and keeping company with refugee Autobots.

THE CUBA CONNECTION


Early on in the film, we’re informed that the anti-Transformer sentiment embraced by the U.S. Government in Age of Extinction has spread all over the world and that the only nation that has offered them safe shelter is Cuba, where “Castro let’s them Summer on the beach.” Like the actor cameo that it features (which also finds an unnamed Autobot trying to coax Turturro’s character into joining him for a game of soccer), the scenario doesn’t affect the plot much: There’s no explanation for why all of the Transformers didn’t just go to Cuba or why, for that matter, Raoul Castro has made peace with them – though old-school Transformers fans might be reminded of the infamous episode of the original cartoon series where Decepticons had arranged a shelter-for-energy deal with the unfortunately-named imaginary Middle Eastern nation of “Carbomya” (a succession of racist jokes that led Lebanese-American voice actor Casey Kasem quit the series in protest).

What’s noteworthy about the scenes is that they were filmed among a brief surge in Hollywood films hurrying to the island nation in order to add fresh international flair to their productions following then-U.S. President Barack Obama’s historic lifting of certain political and economic sanctions (including travel bans) that the nation had imposed against Cuba since the height of the Cold War – along with Transformers: The Last Knight, the most recent Fast & Furious film also featured an extended chase scene set in Havana.

However, it’s now possible that such Hollywood presence in Cuba may once again become rare, as new U.S. President Donald Trump recently pledged to restore many such restrictions. While it is unclear to what degree the restrictions (which also make it harder for certain businesses and/or industries to do business with the Cuban government) will impede future Hollywood productions, it would appear that there is a real possibility that Transformers: The Last Knight (of all films!) may end up as a landmark of a relatively brief moment where U.S./Cuban relations had been allowed to thaw.

http://screenrant.com/transformers-5-john-turturro-cameo-cuba-trump/ (https://archive.is/1P2ac)

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