Mega Rad Gun Thread

Romulus augustulus said:
Elmer Kieth
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I like the man but he's flip-flopped on supporting chamberings so many goddamn times. In one breath he says .30-06 is God's gift to hunters and the next he says it sucks ass and doesn't perform, the man invents the .44 Magnum then goes and says .45 Colt is still better before shilling on his deathbed for .41 Magnum.
He is a fantastic storyteller and an inspiration for pistoleers but like any other big name I'm not taking his word for gospel.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
I like the man but he's flip-flopped on supporting chamberings so many goddamn times. In one breath he says .30-06 is God's gift to hunters and the next he says it sucks ass and doesn't perform, the man invents the .44 Magnum then goes and says .45 Colt is still better before shilling on his deathbed for .41 Magnum.
He is a fantastic storyteller and an inspiration for pistoleers but like any other big name I'm not taking his word for gospel.
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Hot rodded 45 colt is what he wanted in the beginning but the guns of the time (colt SAA) could not handle the pressures. The 44 special guns had thicker cylinder walls and could take the pressure. That alone is why we have .44 mag and not .45 mag.

Once .44 mag came out new guns were made like the Ruger Blackhawk which could handle high pressure .45 and so Elmer reignited his passion for .45 +p.

With Elmer bigger was always better.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
Hot rodded 45 colt is what he wanted in the beginning but the guns of the time (colt SAA) could not handle the pressures. The 44 special guns had thicker cylinder walls and could take the pressure. That alone is why we have .44 mag and not .45 mag.
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Don’t you need a boat anchor chambered in .454 Casull to enjoy the thermonuclear .45 Colt rounds?
 
Laminated Flooring Panel said:
Watching this reminded me of when Brass Facts did their M7 video, they basically at the same time called out TFBTV for being SIG shills, but also thanking them for the access to the gun and most importantly the ammo used.

It is understandable that if you are a big name website with industry contacts that you end up being in the pocket of the industry, that is what you pay for the access and to make your content. But at least try to politely do some pushback so that you don't look like a full goober sitting there and allowing the rep to do their full presentation. But it is what it is, thankfully we have all these non-affiliated guntubers that actually go and call out all these issues.
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Yep. But nah that SIG check cashed so lets lie.abck and take what the rep is shitting.
Romulus augustulus said:
the days of Jack O'connor, skeeter skelton and Elmer Kieth are long gone. What writer or guntuber has enough pull that the industry will listen to them vs the industry telling them what to say.
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Agreed. Well.... Now we have a lot more people with opinions (many of their opinions are retarded)
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Doesn't look good for B&T USA. They own their own printers for the Print-X suppessors, but rely on other companies (mostly B&T AG) to send them parts and firearms. James' X account and the BT_APC subreddit have a bunch more information if you're interested
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Ahaha LMAO the dangers of buying fancy Euro guns
Laminated Flooring Panel said:
So while we don't have that one definite voice in the firearms industry that everyone listens to and whose opinion is the Right and True™, we do have all these various voices with their own backgrounds and expertises. And when taking their opinions on whatever the hot issue of the day is and putting them together, one can find what the overall consensus happens to be. Like for example Henry of 9-Hole Reviews looked at the M7 from his own background and went through the ammunition logistics issues the whole program might be facing. Or in the Brass Facts video I mentioned earlier, a clip of Chuck Pressburg saying the bulk of magazines already being a problem and this gun makes everything even more bigger of an issue. Would a single guntuber/writer be able to raise all these points? Probably not, but that is why it is good that we have the variety of voices in the mix.
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Agreed. Give me the poor and hungry guntoober or the one so independently wealthy that they literally don't give a fuck and have zero care about industry contacts/access.
likeacrackado said:
Aside from importing B&T AG parts/final products B&T USA is the oem for a bunch of 3d printed suppressors(PSA's Sabre suppressors for example, are "Powered by B&T"). If they go belly up it could affect a significant part of the industry. Will they stay solvent? Was it a good idea to name a 20 something female ASU business admin major with no previous work history ,VP, and now president of the company? Maybe Mr. Reeves will get them in a room to tell their side? Probably not but I'm sure he'll keep whoring out for Sig in the meantime
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Ruh roh lol. The ASU chick is probably some execs mistress lol.
Bogliacci said:
Glad I didnt buy an APC9
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Lol yep. Gimme a Turkish MP5 instead.
Romulus augustulus said:
Hot rodded 45 colt is what he wanted in the beginning but the guns of the time (colt SAA) could not handle the pressures. The 44 special guns had thicker cylinder walls and could take the pressure. That alone is why we have .44 mag and not .45 mag.

Once .44 mag came out new guns were made like the Ruger Blackhawk which could handle high pressure .45 and so Elmer reignited his passion for .45 +p.

With Elmer bigger was always better.
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He'd have loved .454 and .460 and .500 mag
 
Duke Nukem said:
That AK handguard in the Russian suppressor video is kinda weird looking, any info on it? Looks like a space rifle from some sci-fi movie.
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Model offered by Hexagon Tactical that I guess they don't offer to the public, at least yet.

We're probably getting some new Firearms Vaporware soon
There's some German-American guy in Louisiana on X Promising $3000 Stoner 63 reproductions by December

with 100% new production parts that are '99%" clone correct, but this guy has a lot of CAD renderings and not a whole lot of parts
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Also is doing only one batch, for some reason?
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Doesn't link his website (this is a screenshot he posted) and you have to DM him for it?
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Wants to Injection mould his own furniture
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Belt fed top covers he made a couple months ago

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Mark Serbu (who is actually working on an extremely small number of Stoner builds using CNC'd receivers) asked him a couple questions about how he plans to actually make the things and he chimped out
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Kinetic Crossfire Thompson FRT
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Icon Defense is now offering Monolithic uppers, which is curious because the LMT Patent doesn't expire until august. I haven't read the LMT Patent but maybe there's a stipulation that the rail has to be "continuous" and the little notch makes it A-Ok? Or maybe they're just banking on LMT being unwilling to sue them with only 4ish months left in the patent. One upside is that Icon's model uses standard AR Barrels
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Oromo Liberation Army Militant with a Luger
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Prototype modernized Gepard M3 14.5mm
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74u
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AGPinochet said:
Geissele and the Army are working on super barrels made out of an Alloy called GNB-200
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Seekins Precision is using GNB-200, Said to be the American Equivalent of ARMAD. They're also using a 200-9.4 Gain twist rifling.





A view into the Jeet MIC
 
Taser Confetti said:
Don’t you need a boat anchor chambered in .454 Casull to enjoy the thermonuclear .45 Colt rounds?
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WhoBusTank69 said:
Yeah, a Ruger.
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Ruger Old Vaquero, Black Hawk, Super Blackhawk, Redhawk, super redhawk, Colt Anaconda, Freedom arms mod. 82, Mag. research BFR and winchester 1892 & clones and Marlin 1894s can take .45 Colt +P. these loads generate ~30,000PSI

The S&W model 25, Ruger New Vaquero, USFA SAA and modern winchester 1873 rifles and clones can handle .45 colt loaded to .45 ACP +P pressures of ~23,000PSI.

all in their native .45 Colt Chambers.

genuine .454 casull is so retardedly overpressured that full spec ammunition is impossible to shoot from a handgun with any sort of speed or accuracy. Here's what Buffalo Bore says about the .454:
The .454 Casull is one cartridge that Buffalo Bore Ammunition does not load to its full pressure limit. When loaded to its full pressure potential the .454 Casull can become unreliable and unpleasant to shoot. At upper-pressure levels, heavy bullets tend to jump crimp - tying up the cylinder. (wouldn't this be great in an emergency) Also, fired brass can stick in the chambers.
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When Tim sundles doesn't load it to full spec you know it's a bear to shoot.

From a rifle it is a dandy cartridge, but at that point go for .500 S&W (whose revolver is so large anyway you might as well take a rifle, won't be much more encumbrance).

Really, All the super magnum cartridges like the .454, .475, .460, and .500s are not suited to handguns at all IMO. it takes literal hands of steel to shoot them well.

.480 Ruger is great though, it was designed to have similar felt recoil as .44 mag. under 1800FPS the larger bullet diameter and frontal area the better.
Falcos_Commisar said:
He'd have loved .454 and .460 and .500 mag
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Dick Casull designed the .454 in 1958. I'm sure Elmer Had an opinion on it. Can't find anything ATM. it wasn't until the 80s that factory .454s came to market but custom guns were around a long time before.
 
AGPinochet said:
Seekins Precision is using GNB-200, Said to be the American Equivalent of ARMAD. They're also using a 200-9.4 Gain twist rifling.
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Ohh cool. I'm awaiting a HIT PRO M3 😊
POWER IN MISERY said:
nothing can withstand the might of a roach MP5

wait do they have one you don't need a gay little printed lower for now?
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Yep, drop in the basic MP5 lower for some 😎
Bogliacci said:
yeah I've got the ARC in mine. I'm not gonna touch the one Rare Breed is making, fuck rare breed
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Hell yeah
 
likeacrackado said:
In slightly related news B&T AG and B&T USA are suing eachother:
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B&T USA is also wrapped up in the Larry Vickers import violation criminal case.
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B&T AG(Switzerland) are telling customers that they terminated the license agreement with B&T USA.
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B&T USA's reddit rep is in full damage control mode. Looks like they're missing a bunch of parts to complete guns ordered a year ago.

Doesn't look good for B&T USA. They own their own printers for the Print-X suppessors, but rely on other companies (mostly B&T AG) to send them parts and firearms. James' X account and the BT_APC subreddit have a bunch more information if you're interested.
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I was thinking of buying a tp9 sbr till I saw one in person. It didn’t look like it was worth $2500. So the next day I went to a different gun shop in a higher end area and bought an HK sp5k instead. And after seeing this I’m glad I didn’t buy the tp9.
 
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