💼 Careercow Anthony Cumia - A once successful radio host crashes and burns, turning on all his fans and the drama around it

mawrieposter said:
John's thread here is 57 pages long, whereas Anthony, Aaron Imholte, Patrick Melton, Christie Mayr, and Keanu Thompson alone have a combined 716 pages (goes to 12,000 if you count Nick Reikeita)
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Hoo hoo, eehhh... my thread isn't even active. It has about 9 pages, 9 Pages! Robin I thought people wanted to talk about me ME. The King of All Media, The Last of a Dying Breed, but eh-uh No. They all want to talk about John. Like what has he done? He's nothing, without ME!
 
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Anyone know where I can find clips of Patrice O’Neal regarding black celebrities' gay rumors? I remember him being accurate with his prediction about gay people running gangster rap. I also recall that some O&A listeners accused Dave Chappelle of stealing jokes from Patrice O'Neal several years ago on Paltalk. I swear O&A kept Palktalk in business back in the day. Similar way to how ghost true capitalist radio kept blog talk radio alive.
 
Battlefield2142EU said:
Anyone know where I can find clips of Patrice O’Neal regarding black celebrities' gay rumors? I remember him being accurate with his prediction about gay people running gangster rap. I also recall that some O&A listeners accused Dave Chappelle of stealing jokes from Patrice O'Neal several years ago on Paltalk. I swear O&A kept Palktalk in business back in the day. Similar way to how ghost true capitalist radio kept blog talk radio alive.
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I never heard accusations that Chappelle stole jokes from Patrice, but Amy Schumer did. Her "Houdini" joke from one of her specials was 100% a Patrice joke, which he told when Amy was in studio. Patrice didn't necessarily talk about black celebrities being gay, but he did talk a lot about how Hollywood would make black celebrities do gay shit as a power move. If I recall correctly, the example Patrice used was how Tracy Morgan told a joke about beating up his son if he came out as gay, followed by Tracy Morgan having to wear a tutu and do some faggy shit on SNL or some other show.

I may be mixing things up, but it was in the context of his discussion about Hollywood and his business approach. Patrice learned early in life, from his 3 months in prison, that people don't just give you shit for free. He had his lane, his system, and he didn't deviate from it. For example, Spike Lee wanted to give Patrice more work, but that required Patrice to abandon his system and become part of Spike Lee's. Patrice wasn't willing to do that and Spike Lee ghosted him, which confirmed Patrice's paranoia: Spike Lee didn't want to work with Patrice, he wanted to acquire Patrice, which is frankly how a lot of Hollywood big-wigs operate. That's why he would go into meetings with major executives and openly trash them: he didn't want to feel like he was owned by anyone, or owed anybody anything.

Lots of gangster rappers being gay has been a rumor since the 90's. That's where the Gangsta Fag character came from, if any of you remember it. Remember that Eazy-E, a founder of NWA, died of AIDS. Eazy-E's family literally believes that Death Row Records intentionally tainted acupuncture needles to infect and murder him. This is all because Eazy-E did not use heroin and it's far less likely for a man to contract AIDS through unprotected sex with a woman than it is a man to contract AIDS through unprotected sex with a man. What is very likely is Eazy-E was bisexual and fucked other men, or crossdressers, on the DL, but black people are notoriously homophobic and his family doesn't want to admit the possibility.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I never heard accusations that Chappelle stole jokes from Patrice, but Amy Schumer did. Her "Houdini" joke from one of her specials was 100% a Patrice joke, which he told when Amy was in studio. Patrice didn't necessarily talk about black celebrities being gay, but he did talk a lot about how Hollywood would make black celebrities do gay shit as a power move. If I recall correctly, the example Patrice used was how Tracy Morgan told a joke about beating up his son if he came out as gay, followed by Tracy Morgan having to wear a tutu and do some faggy shit on SNL or some other show.
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He talked a fair bit about how gay black dudes were on the "down low" and would never, ever discuss it.

Chappelle and Patrice had a fair bit of parelle thinking but they're both black comics who did not want to get chewed up and spit out by the system so it makes a fair bit of sense. On top of that, they largely hung around the same crowd (to a point where Patrice and the Cellar Crew were in a few episodes of Chappelle Show).

What Patrice described then is now what we call the "humiliation ritual" and isn't limited to just black people, but it's a very hollywood way of controlling people. The most recent one being Sydney Sweeney. Tracy Morgan (at the time) got dragged for being homophobic during small scale comedy show by suggesting that, how dare he, "Gay kids are normal kids influenced by the media and should be bullied" as well as "if my son says he's gay I'm going to pull out a knife and stab him" and not only did they force him into the usual apology tour - they flew him out to the club again and made him personally apologize to anyone who was offended and then make an apology speech inf ront of a GLAAD audience. Pretty clearly they told him the tens of millions of dollars he was making from 30 Rock, SNL, and other projects would be slammed to a halt if he didn't and he capitulaized, even though as Patrice puts it - "Tracy Morgan is from the hood".

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Patrice didn't want to have a "price" where he could be made to do something like that, even if he was getting tens of millions of dollars to do it. All of his comic friends clearly had a price - from Norton essentially stabbing Dice in the back (and then Opie, and then Anthony), to O&A having to deal with everything forced on them to management (Opie's famous interview with Oprah) into dealing with the non-compete that sank their career, going on to Opie doing a show with Jimmy even though it was a disastrous idea. Bob Kelly crying on reality TV, that absolute cardboard cutout corporate friendly version of Bill Burr, and so on.

He loved when Charlie Sheen went off script and said "Fuck Hollywood", and when Chappelle did it too - but it never works out in the long run. He was happy being as successful as he was just because he never had to answer to anyone - even though he died an obese mess of a man dealing with his "girlfriend" and her kid, who always seemed like she was way more trouble then she could possibly be worth.
 
Tanner Glass said:
even though he died an obese mess of a man dealing with his "girlfriend" and her kid, who always seemed like she was way more trouble then she could possibly be worth.
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Still better than being on a leash like so many Hollywood types.
 
I guess Ron's definitely got stage 4 colon cancer, which means he's toast. How shitty.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I always enjoyed Ron Tommying callers.
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Speaking of Ronnie B… I don’t know how many times I’ve used Carnies and Rubes to describe the basic economic dynamics of life.

Spend $5 to play this game! Hey I won! That’s right you’re the big winner. Here’s your 50 cent prize! The rube walks away feeling like a winner, while the carny just took you for $4.50.

Perfectly encapsulates so many aspects of life and how people are constantly being played. And how to recognize when you’re being played.

I always appreciated that perspective from Ron.
 
I've been replaying GTA IV recently and I laughed my ass off at the radio show that had both Patrice and Fez as hosts. It is a shame they didn't interact in real life more because they had such a natural chemistry together.
 
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