Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

I don't think he has a single kill to his name right now.
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I see a lot of people complaining about Thragg's voice, but I like it the way it is. People want something more gruff and threatening, but I think the softer voice works better. Thragg knows he's the toughest bastard in whatever room he walks into, so there's no need to put on airs.
 
The issue with Invincible isn’t that it’s capeshit. It’s a smug, embarrassed parody. Its source material is smug as shit about not being like other comics, but that amounts to being sarcastic about cliches.

It’s no Venture Bros. where it actually is a loving parody.
 
The issue with Invincible isn’t that it’s capeshit. It’s a smug, embarrassed parody. Its source material is smug as shit about not being like other comics, but that amounts to being sarcastic about cliches.

It’s no Venture Bros. where it actually is a loving parody.
Show basically opened with a smarmy "uhm akshually superman could totally kill all the other justice league members!" And had evil superman do the thing everyone was already tired of seeing happen to the real justice league.
It also relied entirely on you making the connection between the literally whogang and the Justice League because it only gave each about a minute of development before murdering them. Of course "invincible is derivative" isn't exactly a new take though
 
Show basically opened with a smarmy "uhm akshually superman could totally kill all the other justice league members!" And had evil superman do the thing everyone was already tired of seeing happen to the real justice league.
It also relied entirely on you making the connection between the literally whogang and the Justice League because it only gave each about a minute of development before murdering them. Of course "invincible is derivative" isn't exactly a new take though
Honestly I think the “Evil Superman” idea is a dead horse by now and is actively detrimental to superhero stories at this point.
They should just give Irredeemable a good adaptation and put Evil Superman to rest for a long while, put a little bow on it and get back to the classical superhero stories we all loved.
 
Show basically opened with a smarmy "uhm akshually superman could totally kill all the other justice league members!" And had evil superman do the thing everyone was already tired of seeing happen to the real justice league.
He could though. Like, it's very easy to discount the absurd shit he did in the silver age and the future comic stories where he basically becomes super kryptonian sun god, but he still could. It'd be one thing if he was kept to his original reasonable powers, but he's been given everything under the sun. Even being a super genius depending on the author. It's just absurd. You'd have to extend so much benefit of the doubt to the Justice League as a whole or use lol magic. I'd bring up kryptonite, but that stopped being relevant when the space beaner flew through a planet of the shit.
Honestly I think the “Evil Superman” idea is a dead horse by now and is actively detrimental to superhero stories at this point.
They should just give Irredeemable a good adaptation and put Evil Superman to rest for a long while, put a little bow on it and get back to the classical superhero stories we all loved.
Evil Superman and just Expy of Superman are both pretty boring is the real problem. You'd have to prevent one from completely taking over the plot and have to come up with excuses for why the other can't just solve everything. Omni-Man was really what if Superman was actually an alien and not a human with the excuse for powers being alien. The show humanized him too much. Him missing Debbie was supposed to be a huge breakthrough. In that scene, it's, like, no shit. When he meets Mark again, he told him he was going to offer Thraxa to the Empire as recompense for fucking up on Earth.

Irredeemable wasn't even that good. Tony was so goddamn schizophrenic. And then it turns out that was literal, being based on a batshit crazy woman who killed her kid. I liked Incorruptible in concept, but then it just veers into this whatever the fuck territory of Max doing jackshit while the world falls apart around him. And then the story ends.
 
It is one of the better done types of serious hero stories and evil superman ones, but it just loses the plot after a while. Survivor was built up so much and then that plot just ends. Fucking Mark Waid.
What I really appreciated it for was that The Plutonian wasn’t just “Superman is le evil alien” like Brightburn or “Superman is le evil because Lois died”, he tried but just couldn’t bear the responsibility and decided ‘fuck it’. It wasn’t one thing that made him crash out, it was many things adding up and one final broken shoelace that did it.
If it were to be adapted though, let’s be real here the writers would have some work to do.
 
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