Russell Greer vs. Viatron Corporation, A-26-937678-C

Hes homeless and living in his automobile. I don't think he, nor ViaTRON want this to drag out. ViaTRON made their own goof ups with the CEO going back and forth with Greer when it should have been handled by legal and HR, but here we are. I think this is a smart move by Hardin given the low stakes of the claim unlike Greer V. Moon.

lol cow supreme said:
Pretty big W for Greer here.
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I disagree. Per some AI research and confirmation, JAMS is not a court so his pro-se tard guarding shield from Haines v. Kerner is non-existent here. Not entirely sure how the homeless plight will play out but that can't be helped at this point.
JAMS is not bound by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure's pro se accommodations, and not bound by any appellate court's instructions on how to treat unrepresented parties. If Greer submits something incoherent, the arbitrator can simply rule against him. No obligation to untangle it.
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I stated before Greers main weapon is chaos via shitting up the docket with smeared filing of nonsense to confuse the court and its poor memory; JAMS appears to be fast, no bullshit. He has no opportunities to file garbage and slop.
The arbitrator controls the flow, not the parties. In court, a clerk has to accept whatever Greer files. In JAMS, the case manager and arbitrator actively manage and can reject or ignore submissions that don't comply with the scheduling order.
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One deposition per side, max. Greer can't demand 15 depositions he'll never actually take to harass the other side.
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Under JAMS Rule 18, a party can seek early dismissal of a claim—similar to a motion to dismiss or summary judgment. Unlike court proceedings, which involve extensive briefing and potential appeals, JAMS permits a streamlined process—often involving only a short submission or call before a ruling. If Greer’s complaint is legally deficient, the case can end at this stage.
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Greer stumbled into arguably the worst possible legal forum for someone with his specific set of problems. JAMS was built by and for corporate parties with legal representation. It rewards precision, preparation, credibility, and organization, things Greer is historically worst at. It eliminates delay tactics, docket bombing, and sympathetic pro se treatment, the three things he relies on most.
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You can call it a W for Greer that the case is over shortly since it gives him more time to focus on Greer V. Moon, but the monkeys paw is that if he loses this gamble, he owes ViaTRON and JAM money when he is homeless and has no source of income. I don't think you can do Uber when your car is your home. DoorDash at most. The other thing he is gambling on is his brothel dreams, no creditor of business partner is going to give you funds for a sketchy adult entertainment business with a judgement against you.
JAMS Award → Court Confirmation → Judgment → Enforcement.
The stipulation Greer signed allows the arbitral award to be entered in a court of competent jurisdiction, including the District Court in Clark County, Nevada. Once confirmed, the award becomes a civil judgment enforceable like any other—though with far more limited grounds for appeal.
At that point, Viatron’s attorneys can pursue standard judgment enforcement remedies:
  • Wage garnishment: Generally up to 25% of disposable earnings under federal law, subject to Nevada exemptions.
  • Bank levies: Funds can be seized, though certain sources (e.g., federal benefits) are protected.
  • Judgment liens: By recording the judgment, creditors can attach liens to real property in Nevada.
  • Business levies: In commercial contexts, tools like till taps or keeper levies may be available with court authorization.
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Best case scenario for Greer is getting some settlement, at least that way he would come out richer and be off the hook for costs. I doubt it would be anything more than $20,000 and thats being generous. If he loses, hes fucked.

Someone with an actual law degree can critique my post since AI did the heavy lifting.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
Arbitration time, BABY!
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Damnit, we are deprived of all that potential milk!

Napoleon III said:
You know Greer is imagining to himself right now that he is going to get that 200k get that brothel and get endless amounts of prostitutes that love him.
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As if one could even wipe their ass with 200k compared to what it would cost to start a brothel and buy brothel appropriate land.

mindlessobserver said:
Greers stupidity amazes me sometimes. Why would you accept binding arbitration for your extortionate lolsuit that has a fee shifting provision baked in if you lose? :stress:
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Because he'd delusional enough to think he has a slam dunk win.
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
Why in the world would ViaTROON agree to this? This seems really stupid.

(Not to mention it deprives us of milk, damnit!)
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Dude literally every company in the world that has an option chooses arbitration. There's a reason for that. Arbitration is almost always cheaper, ridiculously biased in your favor if you're a corporation, and you always win.

Why WOULDN'T they agree to it?
 
For someone that was practically pounding his fist asking for a jury this is a rather unexpected outcome.

How can a jury decide if there is no jury?!? Think of the jury!
 
Harvey Danger said:
ETA: section 10 says "arbitrator shall apply Nevada substantive law to the merits of any dispute", but I'm unfamiliar with how much leeway or discretion an arbitrator has.
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Given how both sides prostrate themselves to each other and the arbitration org promising not to try to appeal, and waiving the right to do so, the arbitrator could literally rule "every prostitute in Nevada must give Greer endless nookie, also Viatron are fags and they suck because they're mean to such a handsome 'tard" and there's fuck all anybody could do. Not that they could force women to fuck him, but the rest is pretty accurate.

"Shall apply substantive law" plus "no appeals" means "they can do whatever the fuck they want." It's retarded. There's a reason arbitration is always the wrong choice for non-corporate entities.

Useful_Mistake said:
He agreed to this. He can't back out.
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He will absolutely try anyway.

AnOminous said:
Why WOULDN'T they agree to it?
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Because of the non-zero chance some sympathetic bottom-feeder might decide in some freak ruling that Greer had a point.
 
moocow said:
Because of the non-zero chance some sympathetic bottom-feeder might decide in some freak ruling that Greer had a point.
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They're literally hand-picked by the corporation and their job is literally to rule in favor of the corporation every time.

How do you not know this? How do you not know this when any time you consoooooom a product, it always has an arbitration agreement?
 
AnOminous said:
How do you not know this? How do you not know this when any time you consoooooom a product, it always has an arbitration agreement?
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I know this full well, fren.

How do you not know Greer has unparalleled tard guarding active around him at a near-supernatural level? Given the choice between doing the intelligent, efficient, reasonable, "fair" thing and doing the dumbest fucking thing imaginable at any "crucial turning point" in Greer's life, it is unquestionable which choice our strange universe will make.
 
My prediction is it will never get to arbitration. JAMS isn't free. Typically both parties need to each pony up their half of the arbitration fee. Figure about $2500. This is a huge corporate boon as nuisance Plaintiff's rarely can or will pony up. Unless Viatron has agreed to cover arbitration costs, this dies just like the AGT lawsuit.

Now Viatron may agree to pony up the fees under the assumption that arbitration is less random than the Federal Courts, and they feel they have a clean killshot that ends with Greer owing them.

Why Greer agreed to this is anybody guess. He thinks he gets to explain and they give him a big sack of money? He's terified of his history coming out in court again? He thinks this avoids his Nemesis Hardin? He's just fucking stupid? You be the Judge.
 
RodgerDodger said:
My prediction is it will never get to arbitration. JAMS isn't free. Typically both parties need to each pony up their half of the arbitration fee. Figure about $2500. This is a huge corporate boon as nuisance Plaintiff's rarely can or will pony up. Unless Viatron has agreed to cover arbitration costs, this dies just like the AGT lawsuit.
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Viatron is footing the bill, at least initially.

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The plan is probably to give Greer no chance to back out on poorfag grounds, then recover costs from him afterwards.

That's part of why I'm wondering about discretion. I could see an arbitrator ruling in ViaTron's favor, but declining to throw costs at a homeless tard. Even though Part 7 says "the non-prevailing Party shall be responsible for all costs and expenses", I'm still paranoid about the tard guard, even when it's not required by FRCP.
 
Does this eliminate or even reduce the chances that Greer will be referred for criminal charges after the arbitration is settled? Because if the answer to this question is "yes", that may explain why Greer took such a retarded deal.
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
You can call it a W for Greer that the case is over shortly since it gives him more time to focus on Greer V. Moon, but the monkeys paw is that if he loses this gamble, he owes ViaTRON and JAM money when he is homeless and has no source of income. I don't think you can do Uber when your car is your home. DoorDash at most. The other thing he is gambling on is his brothel dreams, no creditor of business partner is going to give you funds for a sketchy adult entertainment business with a judgement against you.
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This could be worst decision that Greee could have made, he's gonna get at MOST a token 'fuck off' amount of a couple thousand and more then likely sweet bugger-all when it becomes clear there was absolutely no agreement let alone anything that could be considered a contract with offer, consideration and acceptance. He's fucked in the short term and in the long term with this. And you know he will try to appeal if the result is anything less then 100,000 and a shopping spree at the Bunny Ranch wether he's allowed to or not. But sadly, we won't know anymore what's going on until the end.
Prokhor Zakharov said:
Damnit, we are deprived of all that potential milk!
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The biggest suck factor at play here is we lose all that khantent and this thread will devolve into theorycrafting and shitposting out of boredom until the padlock comes down. It's a bit of a sad day for us, but the eventual milkgasm when the results are announced will be huge after we all have been edging so long.
 
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