The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

[Blazeuser56]

Anyone talk about how Homelander ended up saying he's god after Trump posted that Jesus meme? Coincidence?

 

[God of Nothing]

With Rorschach; having a character with ironclad moral principles, even flawed ones, will always make them more endearing than the piles of gray morally ambiguous sludge called characters around them. Active, well-defined characters reign supreme.

Rorschach was the only one willing to expose the truth, even if it killed him, instead of leaving humanity's fate in the hands of ego-tripping pansies like Ozymandias. Human nature cannot be controlled or changed, not forever. You cannot cure conflict.

yup
People will side with genuine extremists and not the mindless "le morality relative" cuck for actually believing in things

 

[Oilspill Battery]

I still think the powerscaling is ridiculous. She got a few lessons that were literally just being beaten over and over again; and then she got to face the Real Jew. And then she killed him. Wow.
The whole point of the period girl, now, is to blow people's heads or entire bodies off with her powers; the whole point of Homelander is being pretty much, ahem, invincible. He literally got thrown inside some cell with nuclear radiation, weakening him and making him ugly (oh, no, the horror!), only to come out of the cell a few hours later and recover not too long after.
This whole "unstoppable force vs. inanimate object" scenario warrants, given the current build-up (what, half a decade by now?), a really fucking dramatic finale. But what's going to happen, instead, is that Real Damage will be dealt for about 5% of the fighting scene, which would probably last twenty minutes. So, sixty seconds, really.

Powerscaling is literally irrelevant, it doesn't matter and it never did. Writers can arbitrarily depower, empower, repower or unpower any character they want for any and all or no reason at all depending on how the plot needs to play out. The winner of these things never is (or shouldn't) be the character with the bigger arbitrarily power meter on the power-o-meter, rather, its the character with the bigger emotional payoff depending on the stakes and motives that have been set up before that point.

The period block chick is a charisma vacuum and so are all her friends. Their stories are unengaging and the average watcher couldn't give less of a fuck about them. This is why them winning or having any hand in victory doesn't work. I care more about homelander or even hughie and butcher than a random instagram thot.

 

[MirrorNoir]

With Rorschach; having a character with ironclad moral principles, even flawed ones, will always make them more endearing than the piles of gray morally ambiguous sludge called characters around them. Active, well-defined characters reign supreme.

Rorschach was the only one willing to expose the truth, even if it killed him, instead of leaving humanity's fate in the hands of ego-tripping pansies like Ozymandias. Human nature cannot be controlled or changed, not forever. You cannot cure conflict.

I sometimes wonders if Moore straight up regrets the ending to Watchmen, especially in light of Rorschach's martyrdom and popularity. Let alone leaving Veidt's fate vague as fuck, resulting in us getting two possible outcomes for his scheme: Doomsday Clock's good ending where Veidt gets exposed and ends up in jail, or the bad ending of Watchmen '19, where Veidt's liberal fascist dictatorship reigns supreme with no end in sight and where the only comeuppence Veidt gets is being cast aside by the liberal fascist regime he put into power and basically being taken away by Manhattan and exiled on a moon in paradise, where he basically is allowed to live out his martyr complex in full of being "imprisoned" for his crimes without actually being punished.

In hindsight, he should have left Rorschach's fate ambiguous: Manhattan breaks his "I don't do anything because I'm a cowardly shit who hides behind predestination" to let Walter escape to tell the truth about what Veidt did and do a variation of what the movie did: Manhattan, Laurie, Night Owl, and Veidt all living in abject fear of Rorschach popping up to expose Veidt's crimes and the story ending and us seeing their worst fears come true as Rorschach's diary gets published.

 

[Lurk Moar Fag]

*Edit

Yes. It was Homelander, Black Noir, and A-Train who raped Starlight. If they wanted to properly foreshadow Black Noir being a Homelander clone, they should've had Starlight say something about how the two of them had similar-looking dicks.

I don’t disagree.

Funny you should mention it but they did just that.... But with AOC of all people. And only then because she personally fucked with Amazon's money which I'm sure secretly pissed Kripke and Rogen off that they were most likely made to make her a villain.

Isn’t their AOC just the late Neuman figure?

Soldier Boy is a more accurate Captain America in that the values of the 1950s are far different than today.

*Technically 1940’s; it was that old school misogyny and racism Soldier Boy grew up with.

Anyone talk about how Homelander ended up saying he's god after Trump posted that Jesus meme? Coincidence?

They’re most likely going with the Man of Lawlessness/Antichrist figure. Homelander and Vought tricked everyone and pulled the wool over their eyes.

I'd also like to point out that since Homelander broke out of the cell after Soldier Boy killed the anger-inducing guy, they could've all grouped together and beaten Homelander to death, considering how he was weakened by the radiation. But no...

That episode was so fucking stupid. Why didn’t Soldier Boy kill Frenchie and why the hell did the explosion only *effect the room? I thought he had some sort of atomic-like explosive powers. I hate this “leveling” shit in any cape writing.

Stan is something worse than evil to the SJWs who write this show.

Stan is a realist. He knows that the show has to go on. The economy has to keep running, no matter who rules. That people will find another idol once they're done with capeshit heroes.

That's why I can't see him as evil. He just sees the game for what it is.

A strategist and a soulless psychopathic suit that deals in money, marketing, and products. He’s ultimately the most powerful because of his intellect and prowess.

All of the buildup of Gen V being abandoned is no different than the giant conflict of season three of the main series ending with nothing. This show loves to generate some huge cliffhanger or conflict then resolve it or retcon it so they can recycle the same story beats again.

I watched one episode of that slip and couldn’t get over the terrible acting. I personally don’t find a lot of Gen Z actors to be very talented.

I think they should have kept Stillwell a man and done away with the stupid booby milk joke. It did not age well. Stormfront should have stayed a man, as well. The actress made me dislike her, so she did her part well. Let’s be honest though, she’s fuck-ugly and looking at her face gets gross and irritating. Kind of like looking at Erin Moriarty’s after the pressure of Hollywood got to her.

Usually, when you start off with a character that acts like a whiny bitch, they get better and stronger with time. But when the opportunity was there for that in Season 3, the story knocked him back down and told him to br satisfied with being Starlight's little twink.

I’m wondering if his mom will return. I have a feeling the writers want the viewers to forget that Hughie and his mom basically killed three innocent people in a spectacularly retarded fashion.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

i feel like that has to have been a complete coincidence. it's not like they write and film this week by week, they probably wrote it last year.

Screeners though...and its a show that is about the CIA. I'm sure the deep state is watching it closely... and was probably involved in some of the ideas behind the show. Like justifying ethnic bioweapons aka the virus that targets your enemies genetically. But never your real enemy. The chosen ones will sit back and watch while we all wipe each other out.

They’re most likely going with the Man of Lawlessness/Antichrist figure

Just like Trump..."And I saw that one of his heads was, as it were, wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed."

"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God"

 

[Cryogonal2]

Screeners though...and its a show that is about the CIA. I'm sure the deep state is watching it closely... and was probably involved in some of the ideas behind the show. Like justifying ethnic bioweapons aka the virus that targets your enemies genetically. But never your real enemy. The chosen ones will sit back and watch while we all wipe each other out.

next you'll tell me kojima's games are a psyop you fucking idiot

 

[Exegesis]

Unconfirmed spoilers for the remaining episodes:

Boring and gay as anyone with a half mind could've predicted. The main issue is that they went too hard into the "homelander is literally trumpler" shit and they did it in the most predictable and unimaginative way. Also, why the fuck would they set up the whole Caesar dynamic between Sage and Homelander just for Sage to do fucking nothing and then kill herself? What was the point in all those references if Sage didn't set up anything??

 

[Endless Blabbery]

The period block chick is a charisma vacuum and so are all her friends. Their stories are unengaging and the average watcher couldn't give less of a fuck about them. This is why them winning or having any hand in victory doesn't work. I care more about homelander or even hughie and butcher than a random instagram thot.

I'll admit that I only watch it as a means to mindfuck myself until I get tired enough to fall asleep. The Boys is incredibly stupid.
I've been watching Invincible and despite it deserving countless criticisms, it is reasonable enough. Kind of. It's hard to do it right, so I get it; but The Boys' writers are just stupid.
I will also admit that I don't watch much stuff online? Most I don't find appealing: what's now available is homosexual and dark-skinned, and what's old is hard to pirate. Not that I actively look for old movies.

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I still think about Grey's Anatomy. God, Miranda Bailey, Richard Webber—they're both African but I don't give a shit, their characters were amazing. But somewhere along the way it all became too much for me to handle.
Despite how fucking dramatic everything was, it kind of made sense until the end of the first-digit seasons. I think a breaking point was when the Derek guy got killed:

Former Grey's Anatomy executive producer James D. Parriott stated that Dempsey was "terrorizing the set" and caused "PTSD" in cast members due to HR issues, though he clarified the behavior was not sexual in nature. Producer Jeannine Renshaw noted Dempsey frequently complained about his schedule while his co-star Ellen Pompeo worked significantly longer hours, leading to tension. An anonymous crew member described Dempsey as a "Lone Ranger" who was isolated because female cast members ("rogue actresses") complained to creator Shonda Rhimes about his lateness and difficult demeanor, a characterization that critics have noted contained misogynistic undertones.

Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. I probably am. I should just grab a book and read it instead of watching a would-be autist scream at some Asian like "I. AM. A STURGEON! "

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

"I. AM. A STURGEON! "

 

[The greater a'tuin]

Marshall Law actually does as there are good and bad heroes in the Marshall Law universe and Marshall Law mellows out, when he finds out that his dead girlfriend never loved him and was dating him solely to try and upset her parents like the typical feminist contrarian she turned out to be.

Marshal Law fell for the same trap of buying the "superheroes are fascist" delusion and pretending they conceptually disparage real soldiers instead of inspiring them.

Yes, I think that’s why Invincible and the literal shady government agency established to both manage and research ways to destroy the superheroes is the most ”realistic” idea.

The GDA is unreasonably useless, so not a great example.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

I'll admit that I only watch it as a means to mindfuck myself until I get tired enough to fall asleep. The Boys is incredibly stupid.
I've been watching Invincible and despite it deserving countless criticisms, it is reasonable enough. Kind of. It's hard to do it right, so I get it; but The Boys' writers are just stupid.
I will also admit that I don't watch much stuff online? Most I don't find appealing: what's now available is homosexual and dark-skinned, and what's old is hard to pirate. Not that I actively look for old movies.

I've heard people call invincible white people dragonball Z and I think the comparison applies. Its dogshit writing with zero concern for logic or consistency or themes or consequences or even basic cause and effect, but it has hype moments and aura and constant escelation to attempt to keep things intresting with characters that are at least midly likable with enough charm/charisma to keep you over. Its like a sloppy opera without sustainable writing but it is fun for what it is because its at least doing its own thing unlike the boys that's a 24/7 rage sesh against orange man.

 

[Endless Blabbery]

I've heard people call invincible white people dragonball Z and I think the comparison applies. Its dogshit writing with zero concern for logic or consistency or themes or consequences or even basic cause and effect, but it has hype moments and aura and constant escelation to attempt to keep things intresting with characters that are at least midly likable with enough charm/charisma to keep you over. Its like a sloppy opera without sustainable writing but it is fun for what it is because its at least doing its own thing unlike the boys that's a 24/7 rage sesh against orange man.

Oddly enough, I've never watched Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, or whatever. But I think I understand what you mean.

 

[Jace on ice]

Ironically pulling a Game Of Thrones is probably the only way to save the finale.

Have Homelander kill everyone and cut to black. Everyone fucking hates these characters and wants to see them die, preferably in over the top gruesome fashion.

 

[AssignedEva]

I just don't understand why over the course of this show Frenchie and Kimiko built up a good relationship while Frenchie learned to process his guilt, then Kimiko turns him down because she thinks he deserves someone better than her, then he gets in a relationship with a man but he killed the man's family so he has to go to prison to relearn how to process his guilt, then they actually get together, but now Kimiko is turning him down again because she thinks he deserves someone who's more compatible with him than her. It's the Groundhog Day of romance plotlines.

Deep agonising over lobotomised Sister Sage vs the Tilda Swinton octopus was more coherent.

 

[OrionBalls]

Anyone talk about how Homelander ended up saying he's god after Trump posted that Jesus meme? Coincidence?

Wasn't the script for the show finished at least a year ago?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Ironically pulling a Game Of Thrones is probably the only way to save the finale.

Have Homelander kill everyone and cut to black. Everyone fucking hates these characters and wants to see them die, preferably in over the top gruesome fashion.

They should turn Homelander into the next Thragg or Broly. Too many people think he's just a wuss hiding behind his powers. You want the audience to fear his strength, so stop making him look weak behind the scenes and just go with the cold murder-hobo Superman that he should have remained.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I've heard people call invincible white people dragonball Z and I think the comparison applies.

God that's kinda true

However, DBZ never took itself seriously as some kind of legit superhero deconstruction or some shit with le deep themes, it's just a pure and simple show where people beat the fuck out of each other and shoot energy beams. It knew what it was.

 

[God of Nothing]

Boglight is real

 

[TheHarbinger]

Ironically pulling a Game Of Thrones is probably the only way to save the finale.

Pulling a Game of Thrones would be Homelander dying to Little Cricket or Zoey. And then some minor character taking over. "And who had a better story.....than Sister Sage?". And most characters surviving.

Have Homelander kill everyone and cut to black. Everyone fucking hates these characters and wants to see them die, preferably in over the top gruesome fashion.

This is the comics. Just endless killing and gore of parody versions of popular superheroes.