Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

This seems like overkill for Iran.

Hypersonics are (on paper/in theory) good for quick time between launch and impact, and good for penetrating air defenses.

Other than for getting the platform live combat testing, I'm skeptical of what the point is.
1) We want overkill for Iran. It's the only language they understand.
2) Anything that does the job of getting this shit over with faster and more conclusively is welcome.
3) We likely won't have a better opportunity for real-world testing for a while.
4) It's fun.
 
*No one has been criticizing the war in the echo chamber i'm apart of.
Out in the employed, non-autistic, and non-brown world most people genuinely do not care.

There's no draft, mass US casualties, nor resource rationing so the only thing normal people are actually mad about affecting them is gas prices, which is the thing that's also going to almost immediately drop when the war is over, as the US's woes are from Bossman-style gamblemaxing and not an actual disruption in our oil supply.

Average Joes are not frothing at the mouth about this war, and certainly not at this point. It's been made quite clear that Iran isn't going to unleash their secret ultimate weapons of Allah's might and it's not actually going to spiral into WW3 or Iraq 2, so most people just grumble about gas being expensive right now then go on with their lives. That's it.
 
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President Trump is set to receive a briefing on Thursday regarding new plans for potential military action in Iran from CENTCOM Commander Adm. Brad Cooper, with Gen. Dan Caine also expected to attend, according to Axios.

➡️ Trump currently views the blockade as his main leverage but is open to military action if Iran does not back down.

➡️ Planners are also considering the risk of Iranian retaliation against U.S. forces.
Don't tease me, God Emperor Trump.

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It won't be Bridge and Powerplant Day but I'll take Speedboat Sinking Day.

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The dead and gay (like the Something Awful Forums) Ayatollah wrote a speech about Persian Gulf Day:
The Iranian nation, possessing the longest coastline along the Persian Gulf, has made the greatest sacrifices for its independence and in confronting foreigners and aggressors.

This spans from the kicking out of the Portuguese and the liberation of the Strait of Hormuz … which serves as the basis for naming April 29th as National Persian Gulf Day—to the struggle against Dutch colonialism and the epics of resistance against British colonialism.

However, the Islamic Revolution was the turning point of these resistances in cutting off the hands of the arrogant powers from the Persian Gulf region.

Today, 2 months after the largest military expedition and aggression by the world’s bullies in the region and the ignominious defeat of America’s plans, a new chapter for the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz is being written.

The nations of the Persian Gulf region, who for many years were accustomed to the silence and submissiveness of their rulers before bullies and aggressors, have in the past sixty days witnessed firsthand the beautiful manifestations of the fortitude, vigilance, and jihad of the brave men of the Army and IRGC Naval Forces, alongside the zeal and gallantry of the people and youth of Iran’s southern regions in rejecting foreign hegemony.

Today, by the grace of the Almighty and the blessing of the blood of the oppressed martyrs of the 3rd Imposed War—especially the Great and Far-sighted Leader of the Islamic Revolution—it has been proven not only to world public opinion and the nations of the region but even to the monarchs and rulers of these countries, that the presence of American foreigners and their "nesting" in the lands of the Persian Gulf is the primary cause of regional insecurity.

It is clear that the hollow American bases lack the power to provide even their own security, let alone offer any hope of security for the regional dependents and "America-worshippers."

By Divine power, the bright future of the Persian Gulf region will be a future without America, dedicated to the progress, comfort, and welfare of its nations.

We share a "common destiny" with our neighbors across the waters of the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman.

Foreigners who cause mischief from thousands of kilometers away out of greed have no place here, except at the bottom of these waters. This chain of victory, realized by the grace of the Lord through the strategies of resistance and the "Strong Iran" doctrine, shall be the herald of a new regional and global order.

Today, the miraculous awakening of the Iranian nation is not limited to the tens of millions ready to sacrifice their lives in the struggle against Zionism and the bloodthirsty America.

At the forefront of the unified ranks of the Islamic Ummah, ninety million gallant and noble Iranian compatriots—both inside and outside the country—consider all their identity-based, spiritual, human, scientific, and industrial capacities, as well as fundamental and modern technologies (from nano and bio to nuclear and missiles), as their national capital.

They will guard these just as they guard their water, land, and air borders.

Islamic Iran, through the practical "thanksgiving" for the blessing of exercising management over the Strait of Hormuz, will make the Persian Gulf region secure and will dismantle the enemy's exploitation of this waterway.

The legal rules and the implementation of the ‘new management of the Strait of Hormuz’ will bring comfort and progress to all nations of the region, and its economic benefits will gladden the hearts of the people; by the will of Allah, even if the disbelievers dislike it.
 
The issue raised is that the military hasn’t kept proper track of which manufacturer is keeping how much of each component and they probably have more components than they need which results in overspending (aircraft in general and F-35s in particular are the main thing they talk about).

No, the Pentagon has never passed an audit. Literally, not ever. Not even now that they're legally required, and these issues go back even before the Reagan Administration when we were buying $800 hammers and $10,000 toilets. This goes back long before the F-35 was even a thing. The MIC has just morphed into a vast web of kickbacks and fraud committed on the American people, wrapped in a flag for retards. Shit, even Eisenhower warned us back in the 1950's, and yet here we are.

Your initial point was that the massive US debt was due to military spending.

Second and third order costs related to our military shenanigans absolutely dwarfs all direct military spending. Nobody even disputes that so I have no idea why you keep fighting the obvious. That reminds me, I need to go put some $5/gallon gas in my car today.

Did you guys hate Trump back when he was calling out all our stupid military engagements too? Or did your opinions shift when he changed gears?
 
Spending related to our military shenanigans absolutely dwarfs all direct military spending. Nobody even disputes that so I have no idea why you keep fighting the obvious.
"No one even disputes this" he screamed into a crowd of people all telling him he's wrong (disputing this)


Did you guys hate Trump back when he was calling out all our stupid military engagements too? Or did your opinions shift when he changed gears?
TRUMP SAY HE NO LIKE THIS WAR, SO WHY YOU THINK HE LIKE THIS OTHER WAR

they aren't the same thing I have heaps of criticisms of the decisions made during the GWOT and remarkably fewer when looking at the engagements trump has been taking here in his second term.

They are different conflicts, waged for different reasons, under different circumstances, with different goals, and different tactics.

Why would I do something as braindead as try to compare apples to oranges in this case.
 
Did you guys hate Trump back when he was calling out all our stupid military engagements too? Or did your opinions shift when he changed gears?
You seem to assume that everyone else operates via autistic black-and-white absolutist positions ala "all war bad" or "all war good" rather than judging these military engagements based on their individual aspects, and thus the only way they could hold both of these apparently conflicting opinions is by being hypocrites.

I don't remember Libya funding half of the global anti-US terror movements or Afghanistan holding a third of the world's oil trade at gunpoint. People have different ideas on what military action is and isn't justified depending on the conflicts themselves, not the concept of military conflict in and of itself.

We have lost almost nothing and the prospect of removing Iran from the equation, if not outright replacing it with a sympathetic alternative, is directly and objectively beneficial to the US and it's interests. We aren't there to implement liberal democracy or stop the spread of Islam, we're there because Iran has been a yapping chihuahua biting at our ankles for 50 years straight and suicidal apocalypse cults like the Islamic Regime should not be able to take the entire oil industry hostage whenever they feel like it nor possess nuclear weapons.
 
I get that younger people don't know what they don't know, but for anybody who was an adult in the 90's they know that we're in much worse shape now as a country than we were
name one western country thats in a "better shape" now than in the 90s
stupid military engagements
your opinion. i think this war is great
 
name one western country thats in a "better shape" now than in the 90s
Poland?
There's no draft, mass US casualties, nor resource rationing so the only thing normal people are actually mad about affecting them is gas prices, which is the thing that's also going to almost immediately drop when the war is over, as the US's woes are from Bossman-style gamblemaxing and not an actual disruption in our oil supply.
Wait, you're saying the average person isn't screaming about how the Jews are secretly manipulating everything to their benefit, but are just content that their day to day life is not really impacted by anything going on in Iran and that there aren't continuous reports of soldiers dying? No, that's absurd.
 
No, the Pentagon has never passed an audit. Literally, not ever. Not even now that they're legally required, and these issues go back even before the Reagan Administration when we were buying $800 hammers and $10,000 toilets. This goes back long before the F-35 was even a thing. The MIC has just morphed into a vast web of kickbacks and fraud committed on the American people, wrapped in a flag for retards. Shit, even Eisenhower warned us back in the 1950's, and yet here we are.
I don’t think a single person in this thread doubts that there is a lot of waste in US military spending, what we are questioning is your conspiracy theory that they are spending significantly more than we know about and you have not posted a shred of evidence of this being true.

No, failing an audit does not prove this. You seem to think this is some kind of magic bullet, but it’s pretty obvious you either did not read or did not understand the article you posted. It’s fucking embarrassing.
 
No, the Pentagon has never passed an audit. Literally, not ever. Not even now that they're legally required, and these issues go back even before the Reagan Administration when we were buying $800 hammers and $10,000 toilets. This goes back long before the F-35 was even a thing. The MIC has just morphed into a vast web of kickbacks and fraud committed on the American people, wrapped in a flag for retards. Shit, even Eisenhower warned us back in the 1950's, and yet here we are.



Second and third order costs related to our military shenanigans absolutely dwarfs all direct military spending. Nobody even disputes that so I have no idea why you keep fighting the obvious. That reminds me, I need to go put some $5/gallon gas in my car today.

Did you guys hate Trump back when he was calling out all our stupid military engagements too? Or did your opinions shift when he changed gears?
https://gasprices.aaa.com/ Appreciate the admission that you live in a commie state if you're paying over 5 dollars a gallon.

If you don't see the value of damaging our greatest enemy China and strength we are showing as a country before a massively important meeting between Trump and Xi then I can't help you.

We buy "800 dollar hammers" somewhat because of corruption but that's also how the military hides the black budget. You know the thing that makes us the undisputed superpower that controls global policy? Yea I prefer expensive hammers to losing that.

I also like this faggot libtard shit you are doing where you try to compare a month in Iran to the decades in the desert under other presidents. Chomping at the bit and pretending these things are comparable is laughable.

My favorite thing though is your avatar is just a picture of yourself and you don't even realize it.
 
You know it’s not the early 2000s anymore, because nobody is blaming American big oil for a conflict that spikes their inventory prices.
 
https://gasprices.aaa.com/ Appreciate the admission that you live in a commie state if you're paying over 5 dollars a gallon.

If you don't see the value of damaging our greatest enemy China and strength we are showing as a country before a massively important meeting between Trump and Xi then I can't help you.

We buy "800 dollar hammers" somewhat because of corruption but that's also how the military hides the black budget. You know the thing that makes us the undisputed superpower that controls global policy? Yea I prefer expensive hammers to losing that.

I also like this faggot libtard shit you are doing where you try to compare a month in Iran to the decades in the desert under other presidents. Chomping at the bit and pretending these things are comparable is laughable.

My favorite thing though is your avatar is just a picture of yourself and you don't even realize it.
Bold of you to assume he's a libtard living in a libtard state instead of just a brown googling "United Statesian very bad gas prices"

Second and third order costs related to our military shenanigans absolutely dwarfs all direct military spending. Nobody even disputes that so I have no idea why you keep fighting the obvious.
Because you haven't elaborated on what those second and third order costs are allegedly being spent here and how it contributes to the debt, which was your original point.

Which is also why I suspect ESL at best or just a retard googling economic terms he doesn't understand at worst.
 
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UAE better watch out. Iran might fire missiles at them if they keep cozying up to America.
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Friedrich Merz sounds like a name out of a Thomas Pynchon novel.
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Well, time to order a McDonald's so I have a magical golden arch shield around me to be protected from missiles being yeeted at us.
I did not have Israel sending Iron Dome to Arabs on my bingo.

This is huge, actually, and implies Israel and the UAE have deeper cooperation than they'd let on to on the surface.
While i appreciate that the UAE doing this means i don't have to worry about missiles dropping over my head, they have to seriously consider making their defenses stronger because there's no way a terrorist attack on the country isn't already a consideration for Islamic terror groups. I hate sandniggers but I really don't want the sandnigs here to suffer, maybe the jeets and all the niggers can be allahu akbar'ed instead, no one sane would miss them. But unfortunately the UAE as usual will focus on stupid vanity projects and building power guzzling AI data centers instead of building a decent military which they clearly can,just that they need the discipline and the right amount of budget for it.
 
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