Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

[Justa Grata Honoria]

should we sterilize the poor? would you cosign my effort to deploy a virus that affects people with sickle-cell anemia and causes infertility?

Bro you should be advocating for this considering every single stream you are complaining about paying taxes so tyrone and Shaniqua can have their 5 kids and EBT and not set the cities on fire .

 

[Null]

Bro you should be advocating for this considering every single stream you are complaining about paying taxes so tyrone and Shaniqua can have their 5 kids and EBT and not set the cities on fire .

Can you read?

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Just to be clear; I am a wamen, in case you also included me in this comment.

I also have some libtard friends. They're currently the reason my country is starting to suck balls. I'm not going to apologize for my take here.

It's a leap to go from "liberal politics suck and are making things worse" (true) to "this is mainly women's fault" (cope). If the right is alienating young female voters and it's causing them to lose elections, maybe it should consider how to stop doing that rather than getting even more vitriolic towards them. If young female voters respond to rhetoric from the left that emphasizes values the right agrees women should naturally have (empathy, fairness, kindness), maybe the right should figure out how to leverage those values rather than being outraged. For example, the right could point out how leftist policies are unfair and unempathetic to women and children. But no, let's blame them and talk about taking away their remaining rights. That'll show them.

 

[crazedaze]

Just to be clear; I am a wamen, in case you also included me in this comment.

I also have some libtard friends. They're currently the reason my country is starting to suck balls. I'm not going to apologize for my take here.

Just to be clear, the current "leader of the world" is a ragetweeting hemotional conservative scrote who was voted in by conservative scrotes. Unrelated, gas prices are at an all-time high save for the 2022 Russian War spike.

 

[Spooky all year]

It's a leap to go from "liberal politics suck and are making things worse" (true) to "this is mainly women's fault" (cope). If the right is alienating young female voters, maybe it should consider how to stop doing that rather than getting even more vitriolic towards them.

I feel this is country dependent. Young right wing women are not being pushed away where I live, so that's a pretty American take I'd say.

Looking at our voter demographics however, our extremely prog left wing parties mainly get voted on by women. Our universities are also more female than male. They are getting indoctrinated harder / faster and we have reached a point that when women speak up here against shit they dislike, the fake feminists (actual women) show up and tell them they suck and they're wrong.

Women do need to be responsible for their own actions though; if you're dissatisfied with the politics, either try to get in on it, actually go and vote if you don't want to get in on it, or figure out another way to show why voting those green leftoid fuck women parties is a terrible idea. You can't vote leftoid and expect shit to change. You can't not vote and expect shit to change.

You also can't go into politics over here and expect shit to change either though. But again, not every country and place is the same in that regard. But for my specific country, women are the issue vote wise.

Just to be clear, the current "leader of the world" is a ragetweeting hemotional conservative scrote who was voted in by conservative scrotes. Unrelated, gas prices are at an all-time high save for the 2022 Russian War spike.

If you're American, sure. But I'm a Eurofag. I don't think Trump is the "leader of the world", even if he does have a lot of power.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I feel this is country dependent. Young right wing women are not being pushed away where I live, so that's a pretty American take I'd say.

You say it's not true that young women are being alienated by the right, and then go on to describe some pretty effective political strategies the left uses to capture young female voters, but the right can't do the same because (?????)

When young men don't vote because they feel disenfranchised, it's a social problem we must collectively solve, but when young women vote left because the right doesn't attempt to represent their values and interests, it's their fault for being too emotional. Brilliant rhetorical strategy, let's see how it pays off.

All I'm saying is if the right keeps losing elections where you live, and your response is "boooo women suck, stop voting how I don't like" then don't get mad when you keep losing.

 

[crazedaze]

If you're American, sure. But I'm a Eurofag. I don't think Trump is the "leader of the world", even if he does have a lot of power.

I'm not, and it's not a matter of opinion is it, American leadership was called that because they took that position during the cold war. For a eurofag to whine about "american takes" while parroting their misogynist anti-suffrage propaganda is quite something.

 

[Spooky all year]

You say it's not true that young women are being alienated by the right, and then go on to describe some pretty effective political strategies the left uses to capture young female voters, but the right can't do the same because (?????)

When young men don't vote because they feel disenfranchised, it's a social problem we must collectively solve, but when young women vote left because the right doesn't attempt to represent their values and interests, it's their fault for being too emotional. Brilliant rhetorical strategy, let's see how it pays off.

All I'm saying is if the right keeps losing elections where you live, and your response is "boooo women suck, stop voting how I don't like" then don't get mad when you keep losing.

That's a hot take I can't actually agree with tbh. We had a supposed right-wing government BEFORE the current one. If you ask normies in the street, they will agree that the right won bigly last time and didn't deliver on anything.

I'll tell you on that that what we had WASN'T right-wing, because one of those supposed right-wing parties is actually very intersectional prog, but voters here are dumb and refuse to actually look at how parties vote rather than just listening to what's said and promised in election booklets by said party.

The universities ARE ideologically captured here. You can barely get a job at a uni if you're not left-wing. The government officials are ALSO ideologically left-wing and are actively frustrating any changes right wing parties in power WOULD like to make. I have seen this shit happen first-hand where I'm at. So just going 'Well if the left can do it, so can the right' is short sighted from where I'm sitting.

Both boys and girls, men and women here ARE feeling disenfranchised; we keep getting less and less people that actually go and vote. Books have been written about this in my native language over the past few years. This isn't news. It's a country wide issue and NOT just centered on boys and men.

Girls and women however, ARE more likely to have gone to our ideologically captured universities, and every fucking time I have a conversation with left leaning people and asking them why they're voting for those prog parties, I get some sob story about how migrants are sad and the right wing parties are evil for not wanting to let in refugees.

The level of average voter in my country currently is: "Well, I voted on that one dude because he had a positive slogan" and "He has a nice smile". The rest is mainly ideology, of which the women mostly skew left. So yeah, I still don't think that you can apply your American situation and supplant it onto my country. That includes "it's only boys we focus on" and "the right can do what the left is doing".

I can write you a fucking essay on what I think the right here is doing absolutely retardedly, but ignoring women or chasing away girls is not that. We don't lobby on abortion bans here and all that crap unless you've got the super Christian parties (of which there is at least one). The others are generally for free choice, but as they're anti migration, or at least for stricter migration and not helping every brownoid, they're generally classified as fascist and racist and women dislike associating with that and THEN they go and vote left wing for that guy "with the nice smile" or "the guy with the positive slogan". I will spare you the rest of the politisperging essay on what the right fucks up.

I'm not, and it's not a matter of opinion is it, American leadership was called that because they took that position during the cold war. For a eurofag to whine about "american takes" while parroting their misogynist anti-suffrage propaganda is quite something.

Lmfao. I'm a woman and I'm very pro my own rights, thank you very much. But I can also see WHAT is going wrong in my own country. I've been lobbying for women's rights here for years at this point. Lecture me all you want, but I can tell you you're wrong about me.

 

[crazedaze]

Lmfao. I'm a woman and I'm very pro my own rights, thank you very much. But I can also see WHAT is going wrong in my own country. I've been lobbying for women's rights here for years at this point. Lecture me all you want, but I can tell you you're wrong about me.

You said "it's the women emotionally voting libtard" which is literally an anti-suffrage take, why are you even arguing this? Why don't you tell us the gender of your parties' actual leaders?

Oh yes, i see it. A huge gender voting gulf of a whole 3%. Those darn emotional women amirite?

 

[Spooky all year]

You said "it's the women emotionally voting libtard" which is literally an anti-suffrage take, why are you even arguing this? Why don't you tell us the gender of your parties' actual leaders?
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Oh yes, i see it. A huge gender voting gulf of a whole 3%. Those darn emotional women amirite?

That's a mong fucking chart bruv. The EU as a fucking union =/= my specific country. In the EU the POLITICAL PARTIES of EU COUNTRIES go and vote with their representatives. That does NOT mean that is how the people in my country vote locally or nation wide.

And the party leaders have NOTHING to do with what people fucking vote on; you vote on a person here. Political parties, while on the ballots do not exist by way of our laws. That means feminists can vote on women of a party, and that is cast as their vote. You vote on the person who happens to be in a party. The party gets mentioned as having gotten the vote. So a woman in a party can have more votes than the fucking party leader, though generally that doesn't happen because people are lazy and just vote on the first person on the ballot.

There is actual data of how the genders vote here. And the prog left parties mainly get voted on by women. Those are just fucking facts.

 

[Brandy [◉'']]

That's a mong fucking chart bruv. The EU as a fucking union =/= my specific country. In the EU the POLITICAL PARTIES of EU COUNTRIES go and vote with their representatives. That does NOT mean that is how the people in my country vote locally or nation wide.

And the party leaders have NOTHING to do with what people fucking vote on; you vote on a person here. Political parties, while on the ballots do not exist by way of our laws. That means feminists can vote on women of a party, and that is cast as their vote. You vote on the person who happens to be in a party. The party gets mentioned as having gotten the vote. So a woman in a party can have more votes than the fucking party leader, though generally that doesn't happen because people are lazy and just vote on the first person on the ballot.

There is actual data of how the genders vote here. And the prog left parties mainly get voted on by women. Those are just fucking facts.

Last elections in Germany, 18-24 year olds, split by gender would suggest you are right:

Young women overwhelmingly voted Linke (Left). Worthwhile to point out that the far right (AfD) is the second strongest voting block in that demographic which is pretty unheard of for ze Germans. However if we zoom out and look at the results without the age filter for just women:

We can see that the majority of all German women voted rightwing parties (Union and AfD).

And that mirrors my experiences as well. When I became of age I also voted greens right away: "Of course I want to save the planet! And of course I want that everyone gets a chance at a good life, how can you be so cruel and close borders for all these poor women coming from those desert countries?" This lasted until you started to working and get some pleasant experiences with the moidery we actually import into our countries, shitting everything up. For Germany, having the far right wing party that far up in young female voters is very much a paradigm shift, and shows you how awful the conditions have become with immigration, since the AfD is more or less a single issue party*. Women are waking up to the problem and we would very much like something to be done about it. Will moids be able to step up and clean our streets from muslim influences for good? Or will they cuck out, sit in front of the computer all day to complain how women are all evil, how they 'voted for it' while masturbating to pictures of underage anime girls before ranting on social media about how lonely they are? This should qualify my post for the MAN HATE thread again, I hope.
Once we did that, we can speak about how god awful a work environment the boomers and technocrates have created for us and how that also contributes to not being able to rationalize children.

*unsure about that point tbh, I just speak some German and their election data sites are always fairly great for digging into data like that.

 

[Spooky all year]

Women are waking up to the problem and we would very much like something to be done about it.

Very interesting graphs, thanks! Not from Germany myself. Voting patterns here are similar to Germany though. And I did the same dumb shit you described for yourself; vote for the greens the first time I could vote, figured out that was absolutely dumb, and then voted differently the time after that. Sadly that shift didn't happen for a lot of women I know and they still vote lefty here.

Edit to add: most of the parties here are center left or left though, skewed that way over the years, even if some of them used to identify as right. So even looking at demographics for older women, the actual voting means it's just skewed center left to left mainly, which is a difference between here and Germany.

On the Women are waking up... It's like I said: here pro women's rights organizations, including ones that used to historically be pro suffrage movement, actually spoke out against a group of "horrible women" that demonstrated and marched against getting an asylum center in their town. Here many women haven't woken up yet; the ones that are undergoing the shit consequences of the unbridled import of sandnigger rapists are finally protesting, and the generally more well-to-do marxist or general lefty types are calling them awful things for not wanting those sandnigger rapists near them and their children.

On the one had I'm glad this shift is happening, because it means normal people are finally getting fed up enough to go out and do shit. On the other hand it grinds my gears that women would tell other women to shut up about the sandniggers because their safety doesn't matter. What the fuck.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I love that you got mad because you know I'm right

Wow, what a great argument. Why defend my position or address a rebuttal at all when I can just do this instead? I should start doing it from now on.

 

[crazedaze]

Wow, what a great argument. Why defend my position or address a rebuttal at all when I can just do this instead? I should start doing it from now on.

Wtf are you talking about retard, you skipped the rest of my post and my five other posts
Anyway. Do you even hate men bro?

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I can write you a fucking essay on what I think the right here is doing absolutely retardedly, but ignoring women or chasing away girls is not that. We don't lobby on abortion bans here and all that crap unless you've got the super Christian parties (of which there is at least one). The others are generally for free choice, but as they're anti migration, or at least for stricter migration and not helping every brownoid, they're generally classified as fascist and racist and women dislike associating with that and THEN they go and vote left wing for that guy "with the nice smile" or "the guy with the positive slogan". I will spare you the rest of the politisperging essay on what the right fucks up.

Okay, that all sounds very difficult and upsetting, but I just want to point out that you said:

in most Western countries it's emotional libtard women voting retarded green party type dudes into power. The tanking of the economy is mainly caused by retarded women.

...which is very different from "women in my particular European country have been systematically brainwashed by interested parties to vote against their own interests, and there's (apparently) nothing anyone can do about it except complain."

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Lmfao. I'm a woman and I'm very pro my own rights, thank you very much. But I can also see WHAT is going wrong in my own country. I've been lobbying for women's rights here for years at this point. Lecture me all you want, but I can tell you you're wrong about me.

98% of what you wrote in this comment is about left/right, with the only woman-related things being that more women go to universities, which you said are left, and that women tend not to like being associated with virulent racism, and the women ((you know)) skew left. But the rest of what you said referred to voters and thinking in general. So how are women specifically the problem?

And the party leaders have NOTHING to do with what people fucking vote on; you vote on a person here. Political parties, while on the ballots do not exist by way of our laws. That means feminists can vote on women of a party, and that is cast as their vote. You vote on the person who happens to be in a party. The party gets mentioned as having gotten the vote. So a woman in a party can have more votes than the fucking party leader, though generally that doesn't happen because people are lazy and just vote on the first person on the ballot.

In the EU the POLITICAL PARTIES of EU COUNTRIES go and vote with their representatives. That does NOT mean that is how the people in my country vote locally or nation wide.

If you are not in the EU, just say so (no EU countries don't have political parties). Better yet, what is your country? Your points are less effective without specifics.

 

[Spooky all year]

Okay, that all sounds very difficult and upsetting, but I just want to point out that you said:

...which is very different from "women in my particular European country have been systematically brainwashed by interested parties to vote against their own interests, and there's (apparently) nothing anyone can do about it except complain."

No, the rest of Western Europe is very similar to this. But I know OUR politics better than I can explain politics of some random place across the pond to you. That doesn't mean it's not been a universal fucking trend between Western countries that the ideological gap between men and women hasn't been getting bigger. So yes, I do think it's a liberal women issue. That you don't agree is fine, but I'm calling it how I see it, of which I have a lot of experience over here, and I see enough online to have an OK understanding of other places.

Just look at the US, Germany and the UK here:

If you are not in the EU, just say so (no EU countries don't have political parties).

Learn to read, lady. I am in the EU. But how the EU votes and acts isn't a monitor of how people in my country vote and act. You can't compare the whole of that shithole in Brussels to one specific country by way of voting; that shit won't be the same. You might actually want to read my other responses before going at me again. I think I've given a pretty clear explanation of how voting is done in my particular part of Europe.

98% of what you wrote in this comment is about left/right, with the only woman-related things being that more women go to universities, which you said are left, and that women tend not to like being associated with virulent racism, and the women ((you know)) skew left. But the rest of what you said referred to voters and thinking in general. So how are women specifically the problem?

I've written what, 5 replies in general on this topic in this thread? That was mainly about women actually, but Shakira dragged in men and boys being disenfranchised and I commented on that. And I said that we have GENDER SEGREGATED voting data. That means male and female. In which the WOMEN overwhelmingly vote left wing / liberal / prog, however you want to call that.

The left wing / liberal / prog parties go full on emotional about migration and global climate change bullshit here. And women vote on them because "muh feelings". That's my issue with the women voting on those parties. I think I've been pretty clear on that already.


And in general:

Imagine women actually accepting other women having shitty political takes and accepting they're the reason something's not going well.

Like if men fuck up we get to shit on them easily, but if women do, we don't? That's fucking fake and gay. Crazedaze had the point that men are the reason for the shitty economy; I don't think they are because if we didn't have retarded prog parties in power mainly, here in soyjak Europe, we'd be better off. The voting is a women issue, and you can agree with that or not. But the angry reee no it can't be women is fucking stupid.

 

[Brandy [◉'']]

vote for the greens the first time I could vote, figured out that was absolutely dumb, and then voted differently the time after that.

Educational institutions are absolutely an issue that needs to be scrutinized more. An enormous amount of educators are heavily left leaning and absolutely give young people a false impression on how the world works. Academia in general is fucked, there needs to be a more right-wing "Long march through the institutions" and by the looks of it, men won't be able to deliver that if you look at the enrollment quotes of high education.

 

[Tutu]

I am a dicknigger/pickme who knowingly clicked on the Man-Hate Thread, here is my misogynistic wall of text nobody asked for, please don't bully me with it.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Learn to read, lady. I am in the EU. But how the EU votes and acts isn't a monitor of how people in my country vote and act. You can't compare the whole of that shithole in Brussels to one specific country by way of voting; that shit won't be the same. You might actually want to read my other responses before going at me again. I think I've given a pretty clear explanation of how voting is done in my particular part of Europe.

Spicy! OK, so you're in the EU but you absolutely misstate the legalities and realities of how politics happens. As I said, there's no EU country without political parties or where parties are illegal, yet you said they were in your country.

I think I've been pretty clear on that already.

Agree those have been your conclusions; disagree those have been borne out in your support for those conclusions.

But the angry reee no it can't be women is fucking stupid.

And now *you* need to read, Missy. I said nothing of the sort, nor am I "angry." It is not "angry" to challenge.*

I'll also note that there is a massive difference between individual people in a position to direct things, vs peon voters whose votes get swallowed in a pool. The former person can decide and have a massive impact; the latter requires scads of people to act similarly to influence a likely impact. These are not the same, Sherlock.

* challenge is also not necessarily disagreement. Toughen up, buttercup.