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neural said:
One other option is to use affiliate links by Amazon, Newegg etc. This is an option Phil seemingly ignores completely and isn't really that hard to set up as long as sticks to the ToS this time.
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He's done Amazon affiliate links. The dropped him because he refused to obey their guidelines. Their guidelines say to try to send people to products they might want, DSP just sent people to Amazon's home page.
 
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SoapQueen1 said:
As much as I hate to admit it, he's probably right not to get a job and replace Twitch/YouTube right now. He could definitely supplement it, so that's his own failure. There's just nothing he can do that's going to make him $5000+ per month short of maybe some trade, and that's not going to happen because "mah back."
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DSP finding another job that pays him 5-8k with no real life skills?

Not very likely.
 
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He's done Amazon affiliate links. The dropped him because he refused to obey their guidelines. Their guidelines say to try to send people to products they might want, DSP just sent people to Amazon's home page.
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Lol even I underestimated his idiocy. This is a huge income for YouTubers AFAIK.

Phil's biggest weakness as a businessman is his failure to think long-term..
 
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neger psykolog said:
Surprisingly reasonable response from BSV about da "dsp get a job" wrassling incident:
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Although I have to counter this by saying Phil's money doesn't do shit for the economy. He doesn't buy anything. All his gear is shit/old. He bought a brand new car which supports traditional companies that are long overdue for complete failure.

99% of Phil's money goes straight to paying interest on debt. He's making bankers rich, not small businesses.
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Isn't this guy some sort of crazy person something? He would ban everyone he didn't like during streams regularly. I asked him why on twitch PM's and he went into some details about some anti dsp people or some shit. Idk
 
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As much as I hate to admit it, he's probably right not to get a job and replace Twitch/YouTube right now. He could definitely supplement it, so that's his own failure. There's just nothing he can do that's going to make him $5000+ per month short of maybe some trade, and that's not going to happen because "mah back."
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Phil would need to actually change spending habits first. Like people have said- he could win the lottery and he'd end up whining about debt and losing his six houses by the end of that year. The maxed out cards, the possible business loans, the mortages- he's on life support financially unless he cuts some of it now, before the paypigs leave.
 
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LongJohn_loves_Silver said:
Isn't this guy some sort of crazy person something? He would ban everyone he didn't like during streams regularly. I asked him why on twitch PM's and he went into some details about some anti dsp people or some shit. Idk
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Check out his thread here for additional lore. He has also reported Twitch streams based on the fact that they shit talk DSP, even though he has no idea what they're streaming at the moment.
 
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SoapQueen1 said:
As much as I hate to admit it, he's probably right not to get a job and replace Twitch/YouTube right now. He could definitely supplement it, so that's his own failure. There's just nothing he can do that's going to make him $5000+ per month short of maybe some trade, and that's not going to happen because "mah back."
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Yeah at this point I would say that the best financial decision he could make would be to start trimming all the expenses he doesn't need (Like, say, an extra house). He's already past the point of needing to get a job just so he doesn't have a huge resume gap, and he won't find an entry level job that will pay him what he's making now. If he could reduce his expenses and start saving, he would be able to put aside enough money to live on while he's looking for a job once his LP career completely dies.

Hello my name is Girl Crush and i apparently like to waste time giving advice to people who will never see it.
 
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neural said:
Phil's biggest weakness as a businessman is his failure to think long-term..
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His biggest failure is his lack of charisma and ego. His personality (which is everything in a personality type business) is garbage. His huge ego prevents him from learning from his mistakes. Although if being a lulzcow was a job he would be a millionaire by now. It's a shame that he never did the TIHYDP series himself.
 
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NotreallyPutin said:
It's a shame that he never did the TIHYDP series himself.
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It would just be forced humor and slowly twist into him turning it into a series of him being 'so good' at the game, even when he's known for using the cheesiest or stale builds. The KOCC TIHYDPs misssed the point of what made them become such a namesake in the first place- it wasn't a death montage, it was showing Phil flat out ignoring the game's help and advice, refusing to adapt to situations despite playing dozens of games, and putting his ego before near everything else (Lying about getting help from chat, then insulting them soon after). Good TIHYDPs could count as character studies, considering they really point at the bigger moments of Phil's personality dooming him.
 
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neger psykolog said:
Surprisingly reasonable response from BSV about da "dsp get a job" wrassling incident:
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Although I have to counter this by saying Phil's money doesn't do shit for the economy. He doesn't buy anything. All his gear is shit/old. He bought a brand new car which supports traditional companies that are long overdue for complete failure.

99% of Phil's money goes straight to paying interest on debt. He's making bankers rich, not small businesses.
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Hilariously, he responds not to here directly, but on TKOH.

The biggest frustration with Phil, for me, isn't that he's too lazy to get a job but that he's been too naive to not live within his means. When times got tough, instead of changing HIS spending habits he came up with methods for fans to directly fund the lifestyle instead. First patreon, then twitch tips and cheers. His actual ad revenue income has severely plummeted but he's skating by because his fans enable him while he considers buying Netflix and hulu on top of Amazon prime and WWE Network. His absolute selfishness about getting out of the mess he made for himself is exactly why I have zero sympathy every time he opens his fat little mouth at the end of every month crying about how much he's struggling.

Dispute that one Vidar, ya creepy bastard
 

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KingjadVCMP said:
Hilariously, he responds not to here directly, but on TKOH.

The biggest frustration with Phil, for me, isn't that he's too lazy to get a job but that he's been too naive to not live within his means. When times got tough, instead of changing HIS spending habits he came up with methods for fans to directly fund the lifestyle instead. First patreon, then twitch tips and cheers. His actual ad revenue income has severely plummeted but he's skating by because his fans enable him while he considers buying Netflix and hulu on top of Amazon prime and WWE Network. His absolute selfishness about getting out of the mess he made for himself is exactly why I have zero sympathy every time he opens his fat little mouth at the end of every month crying about how much he's struggling.

Dispute that one Vidar, ya creepy bastard
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Well I hope BSV is happy when Phil has to ask him why he's been hanging out in detractor forums!

And BSV, thanks for calling me 'inorant' but I don't think its worth arguing the point much. Phil is in a deep ass hole of debt, he doesn't spur any economic growth as far as I'm concerned. Any 'growth' Phil contributes to the economy is to the shittest companies ever that are on the verge of failure.

We're talking about a guy who still has a cable TV connection? A guy who pays for dual business internet (cable internet) lines from Comcast of all companies? (and I don't care if his area has a monopoly with Comcast, he probably should've researched that before moving there).

Face it, Phil is the banks favorite kind of customer. Revolving debt, credit card debt, home mortgage debt, car loan debt. Phil has it all, and even if it is 90% of his expenditure, it has to be a significantly high amount. He's not fully drowning just yet, but his head is bobbing just above the water. Why on earth would any bank extend a loan to Phil for that car he bought a few months ago? Because they know they can get more out of him.

Why you would even think a guy who lives in a giant house alone in a booming housing area is a good thing, or that he 'owns' a condo in CT that he doesn't even 'use'?

Also lol @ this comment of yours BSV:
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neger psykolog said:
Surprisingly reasonable response from BSV about da "dsp get a job" wrassling incident:
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Although I have to counter this by saying Phil's money doesn't do shit for the economy. He doesn't buy anything. All his gear is shit/old. He bought a brand new car which supports traditional companies that are long overdue for complete failure.

99% of Phil's money goes straight to paying interest on debt. He's making bankers rich, not small businesses.
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I mentioned it before in the BSV thread, but one of the most amusing things about him is that he's one of the biggest detractors or trolls in Phil's life, outside of Phil himself.

It should be pretty telling that both the supposed detractors and actual fans agree that Phil needs to get a real job. It isn't trolling, it's just the simple truth. BSV acts like we're talking about someone like PewDiePie quitting YouTube to get a real job. PewDiePie makes more than enough to get by and build up a solid savings. Phil, by his own constant admission, doesn't. That's really become his defining characteristic for awhile now. If it weren't for his past behavior, I'd actually think that BSV was a troll like he originally claimed to be, because he's actively encouraging DSP to take the worst possible path that's going to lead to financial ruin.

Oh well, I guess he thinks that's the sacrifice that DSP has to make to save the economy.
 
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I mentioned it before in the BSV thread, but one of the most amusing things about him is that he's one of the biggest detractors or trolls in Phil's life, outside of Phil himself.

It should be pretty telling that both the supposed detractors and actual fans agree that Phil needs to get a real job. It isn't trolling, it's just the simple truth. BSV acts like we're talking about someone like PewDiePie quitting YouTube to get a real job. PewDiePie makes more than enough to get by and build up a solid savings. Phil, by his own constant admission, doesn't. That's really become his defining characteristic for awhile now. If it weren't for his past behavior, I'd actually think that BSV was a troll like he originally claimed to be, because he's actively encouraging DSP to take the worst possible path that's going to lead to financial ruin.

Oh well, I guess he thinks that's the sacrifice that DSP has to make to save the economy.
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Based upon BSV's response to my response to his response to the wrassling incident, I'm inclined to believe part of BSV believes he is doing "economic good" by supporting Phil.

Perhaps contrary to most of the people in this thread and online, I don't actually agree with the consensus that Phil should "get a job" for a variety of reasons...
  • With his known history he'd likely struggle to get one
  • He hasn't worked in an office environment in years
  • He doesn't really have many skills that are marketable
  • At the present point in time, even though he's begging somewhat, he's not going to get more money from a job than YouTube
Having said that though, I do believe Phil should be doing a fucking whole lot more to improve himself and his own situation. He should be spending an hour or two every single night learning some sort of skill that allows him to work from home, he should be on message boards, he should be learning how to edit videos, he should be learning how to make thumbnails.

He should be making new YouTube channels for different ideas (like Jack Scalfani has a new channel for talking about new tech. Is it great? no, but at least he's doing something). He should be exploring projects that can provide a much different source of income (vid.me is the hot topic right now, but there are other sites like LBRY and many other "new internet" projects where you can make actual money).

"get a job" is one idea that does work for some people, but other people have a way of generating income by themselves by at least doing something.

My biggest criticism of Phil is that he does nothing. The job market is crap? The economy is shit? Your girlfriend left you? You're up to your eyes in debt? You have a receding hairline?

So the fuck what? Go out there and at least show the world that you're doing something besides playing video games online and staying up till the middle of the night watching TV. If you're going to watch that much TV then why the fuck don't you start doing reviews of some of the TV shows you watch?

Since I've started watching Phil this is what I've seen:
Day 1:
Prestream about personal life and issues for 60 minutes
Play videogames and get angry at video games for a few hours

Day 2:
Prestream about personal life and issues for 60 minutes
Play videogames and get angry at video games for a few hours

Day 3:
Prestream about personal life and issues for 60 minutes
Play videogames and get angry at video games for a few hours

I'm sure Phil would have an excuse to not do anything that is suggested. Credit where credit is due, if nothing else, Phil has perhaps the most legendary excuse making abilities I've ever encountered (this is mainly why I'm so interested in him)... But Phil, I haven't ever seen you try, put down the bullshit excuses and actually try something. You can't even cook anything besides fucking pasta sauce. Aren't you bored?

Where's your YouTube show about wrassling? You seem to watch a lot of it and know quite a bit about it, so why don't you at least try to make something out of it?

The elephant in the room when talking about "get a job" is that his current business model does actually make money, not only that but for a single person it makes a significant amount of money. It makes enough money that if used wisely a person could set themselves up for life.

A lot of the derision I hear about is towards Phil's bad decisions, and I agree, he makes terrible decisions but he also has a habit of making no decisions until things are far too late. And "too late" is right now, pretty soon it'll be "far too late" yet again.

Is he really expecting this cash cow to last forever? He says that he doesn't expect to be doing it when he's older, the question then is what the fuck are you going to do Phil?
 
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