Careercow Dan Harmon - Creator of Community, co-creator of Rick and Morty, and barely functional alcoholic

[vertexwindi]

I bet Dan Wouldn't be so enthusiastic to let Immigrants into his country if he actually had to live in the same nabourhood as them. Entitled Twat

I have, right in a neighbourhood full of Muslim immigrants. Our next-door neighbours' kids practically never stopped yelling and the upstairs neighbour beat his wife loudly.

Let's import more of them, they're so sad.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

What baffles me is how he's managed to convince himself that anything going on in Poland right now could possibly be America's fault. I know Harmon would answer "muh Trump" but Poland (and lets face it a good chunk of Europe) has had these issues bubbling up before Trump even announced he was running for office. It's like people like Harmon believe that these sort of things literally cropped up overnight because a former reality TV personality got meme-d into the Oval Office.

Unless of course Dan thinks that those damn Pollacks are too exceptional to govern themselves and need America to be a role model or else they'll collectively say "WHELP guess it's time to fire up the ovens again" and start rounding up citizens for the gulags. Not sure how Harmon's supposedly Polish family would appreciate that assessment, especially since Eurofags loathe this sort of "America's Burden" attitude when it comes to other countries' problems.

Poland's neo Nazi movement is an extreme reaction to decades of Communist rule and has existed for years. The majority of European neo Nazis come from ex-Communist countries, especially Russia and Ukraine, for this reason, even though the Nazis actually intended to destroy the Slavs through famine and slavery in Generalplan Ost. Some people rebel against one extreme by going to the other.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Poland's neo Nazi movement is an extreme reaction to decades of Communist rule and has existed for years. The majority of European neo Nazis come from ex-Communist countries, especially Russia and Ukraine, for this reason, even though the Nazis actually intended to destroy the Slavs through famine and slavery in Generalplan Ost. Some people rebel against one extreme by going to the other.

Sounds more like they’re generic fascists than actual neo-nazis, but I could be wrong.

 

[His Dewliness]

Sounds more like they’re generic fascists than actual neo-nazis, but I could be wrong.

They're more religiously minded than neo-nazis generally are in other countries, rather than LARPing as Odin worshippers they're just committed Catholics/Orthodox (depending on nation) which sets them apart a little. Most of the Eastern European neo-nazis don't want to start any wars of conquest as far as I'm aware so I'd definitely put Eastern European fascists in the Franco basket rather than the Hitler basket, although I admit I don't really know too much about their differences beyond surface level stuff.

 

[Metropolis Reigns]

Harmon and Roiland are both pretty shitty people so it really doesn't matter.

 

[One Man Bland]

This grown man is a depressed loser and can't even fix his own life in spite of having probably enough money to treat his depression and substance abuse. But he won't. He acts not only like he's better than anyone else, but the best and most enlightened man alive, despite his massive failings and that is why I have a hard time feeling much pity for him.

This right here is also why I don't trust the notion that Rick isn't supposed to be seen as the show's moral center (for lack of a better phrase) or at the very least the show doesn't go out of it's way to excuse and/or justify all of Rick's actions.

After season 1 there's been a gradual increase in "look how depressed Rick is, feel bad for him" and "Rick was actually right in the end all along" moments and episodes that are used to brush off pretty much anything Rick does, and any time another character describes Rick - even when it's supposedly negative - it's always with phrases that are meant to drive home just how much more "above" Rick is compared to everyone else. You'll never hear anyone post-season 1 describe Rick as being a simply bitter drunkard with too much time and gadgets at his disposal that has to mooch off his daughter and son-in-law, it's always how he's a misunderstood genius whose simply too smart/superior to have his actions labeled as shitty or slightly-less-shitty, and the number of times he was described as being "god-like" in season 3 alone was obnoxious.

And this is clearly by design since listening to even just a few interviews show that Harmon considers himself to be a Rick type, and the number of times he's admitted to pulling the same shit as Rick does in the show makes it a blatantly transparent move to justify his own terrible actions through Rick to rather than actually get off his drunk, fat ass and do something to improve himself.

Which incidentally makes it rather hilarious that Harmon hates the "You gotta have a high IQ" fanboys so much. You can't get pissy about pretentious narcissistic douchebags projecting themselves onto Rick when you were the original pretentious narcissictic douchebag projecting himself onto Rick, Dan.

 

[Magnum Dong]

Judging by season 3 production, I'd double the amount of time it will take until season 4. I can't imagine things between Harmon and Roiland are doing so well. We know they were fighting during season 3 production, and that interview where Roiland reveals he's doing projects without Harmon (who gets very defensive and confronts him right there lol), it doesn't look good. I know it will come eventually, but like Mr Poopybutthole said in the finale, we'll probably have grandkids and a big white beard by the time we see the next season.

Recently, a writer for the show gave a private talk to select students at my university. They told us Season 4 is all but confirmed (which we're supposed to keep secret, whoops) and that the writing staff already has ideas about the direction the show is headed in, though I don't think the season's in pre-production yet. They sounded optimistic about Season 4 airing sooner than one would expect, but other details they gave us seem to contradict that.

Namely, the fact that Harmon has approached them to work with him on a separate project. Roiland might've done the same, but I can't recall - the writer talked a lot about knowing and collaborating with Roiland prior to Rick and Morty and being close to him, but after awhile the details bled together. In any case, the fact they knew Roiland first but Harmon developed a particular interest in them was interesting to me.

So I'm curious to see if any evolving conflict between Harmon and Roiland will be, not only about creative disagreements, but also about which members of the writing staff are willing to jump ship with who. I don't know if Roiland's the type to give a fuck about who's "loyal to him" as much, but Harmon definitely is, so... hm.

 

[One Man Bland]

They sounded optimistic about Season 4 airing sooner than one would expect, but other details they gave us seem to contradict that.

I wouldn't trust that. When season 3 was in production Harmon and Roiland were going around saying that the season would be released ahead of schedule in the winter of 2016, and look how that turned out.

Also considering how butthurt Harmon sounded about Roiland working on a solo project with Fox I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be a "I'll make my own show with blackjack and hookers" deal and trying to take some of Roiland's friends with him to try and rub salt in the wound and maybe pull a Weinstein if this writer's a chick.

Though Roiland's never struck me as possessive the way Harmon is, and even if he was Harmon tends to burn all his bridges eventually.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I wouldn't trust that. When season 3 was in production Harmon and Roiland were going around saying that the season would be released ahead of schedule in the winter of 2016, and look how that turned out.

Also considering how butthurt Harmon sounded about Roiland working on a solo project with Fox I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be a "I'll make my own show with blackjack and hookers" deal and trying to take some of Roiland's friends with him to try and rub salt in the wound and maybe pull a Weinstein if this writer's a chick.

Though Roiland's never struck me as possessive the way Harmon is, and even if he was Harmon tends to burn all his bridges eventually.

Harmon's just angry that Roiland would try to do anything without him. The man is an emotional black hole: he demands that everyone he knows center their life around him to the exclusion of all else, and if they don't comply he goes out of his way to try and destroy them.

 

[LettuceMan]

Dan is the only famous person I know of that acts like a washed up has-been, at the height of his career.

Seriously, just what in the fuck is his problem? He's like a reverse Brendan Fraiser or Jeff Goldblum (who was great in Thor btw).

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Dan is the only famous person I know of that acts like a washed up has-been, at the height of his career.

Seriously, just what in the fuck is his problem? He's like a reverse Brendan Fraiser or Jeff Goldblum (who was great in Thor btw).

Jeff Goldblum has always been great and always will be great.
He’s no Bronzeblum, nor a Silverblum. He’s a Goldblum, damnit!

 

[Rekkington]

(What's with him being such a dick to fans? He always comes off so passive aggressive.)

Dan has a pretty strange way of looking at the world. He hates when people "tell him what to do," which is why he used to go on all sorts of anti-government rants but I think that ran counter to his love of socialism. He mentions often how he hates "bullies." The problem is he keeps expanding what constitutes bullying. It's why he likes Antifa; he expects people to be mean to him so he just preemptively bullies back. If you say his tweet sucks, that's fascism. If you say you didn't like the last season of Community, he interprets that as you taking something from him. He has all these weird abstract justifications for it, too. He's always got some metaphor ready to explain how someone thinking Kumail is boring on stage makes them a dark wizard that eats childhood.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Dan has a pretty strange way of looking at the world. He hates when people "tell him what to do," which is why he used to go on all sorts of anti-government rants but I think that ran counter to his love of socialism. He mentions often how he hates "bullies." The problem is he keeps expanding what constitutes bullying. It's why he likes Antifa; he expects people to be mean to him so he just preemptively bullies back. If you say his tweet sucks, that's fascism. If you say you didn't like the last season of Community, he interprets that as you taking something from him. He has all these weird abstract justifications for it, too. He's always got some metaphor ready to explain how someone thinking Kumail is boring on stage makes them a dark wizard that eats childhood.

He reminds me of MovieBob in that he wants this impossible technocratic utopia where God-King Obama will give everyone free healthcare and a black friend for streetcred.
One of the many reasons I love Trump is that he pushed Dan Harmon over the edge into “homeless guy screaming about the Moon” mode. I hope Justin gets his Fox TV deal and tells Dan to fuck off.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Fox TV deal

Not likely. Fox is planning on selling off a lot of its stuff to Disney and to start moving away from entertainment. I doubt Disney would appreciate Roiland's humor.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Not likely. Fox is planning on selling off a lot of its stuff to Disney and to start moving away from entertainment. I doubt Disney would appreciate Roiland's humor.

Roiland worked for Disney before, so I think he’ll do just fine.

 

[Rekkington]

He reminds me of MovieBob in that he wants this impossible technocratic utopia where God-King Obama will give everyone free healthcare and a black friend for streetcred.
One of the many reasons I love Trump is that he pushed Dan Harmon over the edge into “homeless guy screaming about the Moon” mode. I hope Justin gets his Fox TV deal and tells Dan to fuck off.

lol i remember there was a harmontown episode where they all put their dumbass heads together to try and create the perfect society and they ended up "inventing" communism. dan wants to have a colony on the moon and as they were describing it they were like "and what should we CALL this anarchic-syndacalist social -" you just talked your way to communism you fucking dopes.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

lol i remember there was a harmontown episode where they all put their dumbass heads together to try and create the perfect society and they ended up "inventing" communism. dan wants to have a colony on the moon and as they were describing it they were like "and what should we CALL this anarchic-syndacalist social -" you just talked your way to communism you fucking dopes.

So he’s like MovieBlob and wants to grow wheat on the moon. Good gravy, what a bunch of tards.

Edit: the only possibility of a post-scarcity, communist future would be with strong AI and space colonies. Ian M. Banks’ “Culture” books would be the closest description.
And strong AI won’t happen for at least 100 years, so good luck with that.

 

[One Man Bland]

lol i remember there was a harmontown episode where they all put their dumbass heads together to try and create the perfect society and they ended up "inventing" communism. dan wants to have a colony on the moon and as they were describing it they were like "and what should we CALL this anarchic-syndacalist social -" you just talked your way to communism you fucking dopes.

Of course Harmon is one of those fucking Latte Liberals who thinks communism/socialism = free shit as if his "anti-establishment" edgelord attitude wouldn't have gotten him sent to a work camp in places like Soviet Russia or China while he bitches on Twitter and shits on McDonalds employees for being wage slave sheeple.

Which is funny considering his vanity projects like his podcast and his pity-party of documentary - hell, his entire career - were mostly possible because of capitalism.

 

[Male Idiot]

I hate the "cynical/miserable = smart/insightful" correlation so much. I could write paragraphs on why I hate that idea and why it's wrong, but an author named Michael Crawley already saved me the time and effort:

Cynics are in truth just realists. Cowardice is hiding behind go-happy lies and singing "koombaaayaaa all will be well" instead of facing reality head on. Mind, neckbeards trolling the local church on their computers does not become an achievment because of this, just a waste of time.

In fact the whole cultural shit in the west today stems from this. Never tackling a situation head on but dismissing it as problematic or racist. Guess that will improve the grades of innercity black kids for sure, for example.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

Of course Harmon is one of those fucking Latte Liberals who thinks communism/socialism = free shit as if his "anti-establishment" edgelord attitude wouldn't have gotten him sent to a work camp in places like Soviet Russia or China while he bitches on Twitter and shits on McDonalds employees for being wage slave sheeple.

Which is funny considering his vanity projects like his podcast and his pity-party of documentary - hell, his entire career - were mostly possible because of capitalism.

Also, I suspect he fucked over Justin Roiland, because Starburns Industries gets a share of the Rick & Morty licensing and merchandising money and Justin isn’t a Starburns partner/owner. Because ethics are for suckers in a capitalist world, according to Dan.