Mystery Woman's Story - You dare question the King's indefatigable loyalty to his GF???

[Ching_Chong]

@MysteryWoman Just burn all fucking bridges and destroy him. Bring along the other 4-5 escorts as well.

 

[Le Redditeur Part Deux]

If this all turns out true then Twitch/Amazon are an abhorrent company.

If?

Twitch is setup from the go to be a money sinkhole for thirsty/lonely kids and young adults, and Amazon... well, my profesional dealings with them aren't exactly stellar, to say the least. They are abhorrent, that much I can agree with.

 

[Ching_Chong]

If?

Twitch is setup from the go to be a money sinkhole for thirsty/lonely kids and young adults, and Amazon... well, my profesional dealings with them aren't exactly stellar, to say the least. They are abhorrent, that much I can agree with.

It was nice when it first happened. Then it turned into the fucking blight of the gaming verse.

 

[Nickmagoo01]

So five hookers, counting our guest of honor here, that we know about so far. And you know at least one of them had to have asked about that fucking axe Phil leaves by the door.

 

[Confidential Baldwin]

So five hookers, counting our guest of honor here, that we know about so far. And you know at least one of them had to have asked about that fucking axe Phil leaves by the door.

Maybe that’s none of them wanted a second date. They were scared he’d want to reenact American Psycho.

 

[wohzi]

Yes, he said he was doing something "and various other things" and stuck to that for a while until Keemstar picked up on it and he knew the gig was up.

Also, he never said he was "scratching his leg", that was from a YouTube comment that spread like wildfire.

I remember specifically hearing him say he was scratching his leg. He's always lying to his teeth, like with the tax situations when he first laughed at people about how "wrong they were" for saying the IRS was coming for him because of unpaid taxes, back when his mystery crisis was still speculated.
Then it turned out that it wasn't the IRS, but the "local state", a minor technicality that allowed him to save face (or so he thought)
The same thing might be happening here, I can totally see him going : "I didn't pay an escort, that's ludicrous ! I just invited over a longtime friend who said she was in love with me then betrayed my trust. *snort* It was an elaborate scheme and I fell for it, that could happen to anyone, okay!"

I don't think its particularly unreasonable to ask for a hotel room if a flight got delayed for an extended period of time or if its something you agreed to in writing beforehand.

AFAIK you only really get a hotel room if its an international flight, so if it was a domestic connecting flight that got delayed then its highly possible that you'd have to sit in an airport waiting for however long.

Question is : Why would he want his GF to sleep in a hotel room over a flight issue in the first place, instead of having her sleep over for the night at his home ? Unless she's an escort (who would naturally charge more if she sleeps over) that makes no sense.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

Question is : Why would he want his GF to sleep in a hotel room for a flight issue in the first place, instead of having her sleep over for the night at his home ? Unless she's an escort (who would naturally charge more if she sleeps over) that makes no sense.

Because it was a missed connecting flight. She took her first flight with some delays but missed her next flight, and as a result was stranded somewhere.

 

[wohzi]

Because it was a missed connecting flight. She took her first flight with some delays but missed her next flight, and as a result was stranded somewhere.

That would make sense, but I was under the impression he drove back to his local airport to keep company to his GF while she waited for her next flight.

How the fuck can he have afforded all that? If this is ever verifiable he's absolutely finished

He is making around 10k$ \ month with his hardcore begging. I never bought any of his bullshit debt stories. The guy is rolling in dough buying all kinds of useless crap on a regular basis.
His recurring crisis and emergencies are only for his paypigs to cough up more money.
It's like he says in here :

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/3bbY-5Krq7U?t=8m36s https://youtu.be/3bbY-5Krq7U?t=10m3s

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

That would make sense, but I was under the impression he drove back to his local airport to keep company to his GF while she waited for her next flight.

No, he spoke about staying up "ten hours" to talk to her on the phone and make phone calls to the airport on her behalf.

 

[wohzi]

TLDR a streamer was meant to be disabled/in a wheelchair and suddenly stood up midstream and walked around. Got banned by Twitch for fraud.

https://kotaku.com/gamer-accused-of-faking-disability-to-attract-donations-472087848

Some other dude permbanned for being obnoxious/rude/shitty/and being suspected of fraudulent activity related to giveaways and viewbots:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffe...famous_streamer_stickyrice1_permabanned_from/


Another permbanned for secretly owning a gambling site he was promoting:
https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/21/12246138/twitch-bans-phantoml0rd-gambling-site-own-secretly-csgo

A little off-topic, but I regularly watched this ZillianOP streamer play D3 back when everyone thought he was just some cool crippled guy with a really upbeat mentality despite all his misfortune.
He gave me the same vibe DSP is giving me, lying through his teeth, albeit just a little bit more subtle.
Insisted he had to undergo an "extremely costly surgery" to fix his legs, but then he also went about having to buy this "very expensive wheelchair" that would help him "tremendously".
I asked myself, why would you even buy a wheelchair if your legs are fixed ? The guy constantly pulled the same strings DSP is pulling, but he was more social than him at the time (had a GF & friends) so he turned out to have a more likeable facade than DSP.
Twitch banned this guy just because he was revealed as a fraud on stream, getting up and showing everyone that he wasn't crippled at all.
I'm not sure Twitch would have done anything, even if some proof got out, outside of the context of his stream.
DSP's escort saga on the other hand is completely behind the scene stuff. I don't see him getting banned for that unless he livestreams an actual sexual intercourse with her or something of the like...

 

[xWorst_Pon]

DSP's escort saga on the other hand is completely behind the scene stuff. I don't see him getting banned for that unless he livestreams an actual sexual intercourse with her or something of the like...

I agree.
Although I don't have exactly much knowledge regarding Twitch TOS, I just can't see a reason for twitch to intervene.
Phil also has a habit of telling at least a little bit of truth.
If he needs like 2k to pay taxes and 6k to pay the escort, he just begs for the taxes without stating the exact amount and therefore isn't scamming directly like the wheelchair dude was.

As far as Patreon goes, I doubt they'll take action as well seeing as Phil already broke multiple promised rewards and still is on the site.
They seem to not give a fuck as long as Phil gets them some revenue.

 

[Drip Feed]

What he could get fucked for out of this is saying something involving names of people, grossgore, a pretty retatded strramer in himself, he would rage all thr time, would be super autistic but thought he was a ladys man, anyway thats moving off the subject, twitch only intervened when he basically said another twitch streamer was fucking a 15 year old, swift ban followed until it was provrn that the dude was contacting minors and thus grossgore reinstated.

Now if this all comes out and he specifically mentions kim by name and adds her twitter handle or something in the stream ehile hes scrambling to disprove it live, he might get hit with some sort of hate army warning/ban, just for mentioning her, the likelyhoof of any of that happening is low though.

I dont know if twitch really cares about what someones doing with money unless its harming twitchs cash flow.

 

[neger psykolog]

As far as Patreon goes, I doubt they'll take action as well seeing as Phil already broke multiple promised rewards and still is on the site.
They seem to not give a fuck as long as Phil gets them some revenue.

AFAIK Patreon has no rules to stop people from not delivering their goals. It's up to the people who support them to decide whether they want to continue pledging.

I dont know if twitch really cares about what someones doing with money unless its harming twitchs cash flow.

Its very much up in the air, but there is a clear thing where Twitch says that feigning financial emergency is pretty much fraud. There have been people banned for similar things in the past, but this being DSP, afaik there has never been concrete evidence.

And likely with the number of people that report DSP on a daily basis Twitch HQ has to know about his reputation and probably wouldn't ban him until they were 110% sure.

I think its fine for someone to request help for finances over the internet, but there's a clear line where sites like Twitch should actively investigate stories which may be credible and ask the person in a "financial emergency" for proof of it.

For all we know, even if this saga is true, Phil does perhaps have a genuine financial emergency with his backtaxes etc. If he provided that evidence to Twitch then it may be they accept it because he technically hasn't lied and people are well within their right to continue supporting someone who is terrible with their personal finances if they so wish (provided that person hasn't concocted an outright fraud when stating they have that emergency).

This whole situation of Phil's income is pretty much a band aid which has been left on for years, and the longer it stays on, the more will be asked when it finally comes off (if ever).

 

[xWorst_Pon]

AFAIK Patreon has no rules to stop people from not delivering their goals. It's up to the people who support them to decide whether they want to continue pledging.

Then this is some hefty bs on Patreon's part and they could basically rebrand themselves as charity or welfare.

For all we know, even if this saga is true, Phil does perhaps have a genuine financial emergency with his backtaxes etc. If he provided that evidence to Twitch then it may be they accept it because he technically hasn't lied and people are well within their right to continue supporting someone who is terrible with their personal finances if they so wish (provided that person hasn't concocted an outright fraud when stating they have that emergency).

Yeah, that is exactly the problem here. Phil knows exactly how much truth to put into his statements as to not violate the TOS while still exploting the system.

 

[Sparkletor]

We all assumed Phil needed money because he was going to lose his "house". Turns out he was just mispronouncing "whores"

 

[TheGoutinator]

5 hookers now lmao.

This thread/story is like any great comic book or TV Show, each day has a new amazing revelation with an awesome cliff-hanger that has you intrigued for the next issue/episode.

 

[EddyB43]

Phil thinks: it's holiday season, people are guaranteed to be more generous and give more money

Reality: it's holiday season, people are giving to their friends and families and don't have money to give him

One thing to note is DSP DID get more Twitch income than usual for Christmas 2016... problem is that was when he had only been back on Twitch for a month, and before he was a 'full time streamer' who is regularly asking for cheers/subs/tips/Teespring/Patreon.
We'll see if he gets more than usual in cheers/subs & more importantly tips around Christmas soon, but if I were him I'd be worried & uncertain that payday is coming.

On the topic of begging, if Phil still doesn't know how much taxes he owes Washington state, then how did he come up with those very, very specific Patreon goals?

I mean, after he announced the tax problem, he started talking about how the Patreon isn't reaching a "stretch goal", which was somewhere around ~$1200 if I remember correctly.. How did he arrive at that specific number?

DSP is not talking about backtaxes, he's actually sneaky & perhaps being deliberately deceptive if he says the current tips/pledges are to pay for those. What he's ACTUALLY trying to get money is for the 2017 WA state taxes for the current year ending January 31st 2018 AND the extra money he owns this new WA tax attorney. DSP's vaguely mentioned the $1K+ he already owes to this tax attorney in prestreams or maybe WiPs, he mentioned it blatantly in a forum post weeks ago and admitted that the attorney had already gone through the $800 retainer DSP somehow got onto a credit card. (I edited a drgnkiller image, I can't find this on TKOHForums at all using search, I think this might be in the patrons only section or DSP already hid it, he might have hidden the entire thread by now.)

Yes, DSP had $800 spare on credit card(s). Remember this when you think about how much DSP begged during the year, he was able to pay off several hundred dollars in credit card debt.

This is actually something we have a reasonable answer to. The tax bill in January is for his first time paying this tax at the appropriate time. The undetermined amount is for back taxes, which is undetermined because it's going to take a good amount of time to account for all of Phil's income during this period of time and which of it should have this tax applied to it.

This is mostly correct, just gotta add the $1K+ WA tax attorney fees beyond the $800 retainer DSP already paid & has already been used. Also if the 2014-2016 backtaxes do NOT get a payment plan DSP is very much fucked... I'd be amazed if they were less than $5K, also surprised if they were more than $10K. Something he could spread over 6-12 months of repeated begging, no way can he pull even $5K beyond his current $1K+ tax attorney & maybe $2K 2017 WA state taxes costs.

So, small update. Yesterday he called asking for another extension because he is afraid he cant make the payment in January because patreon isnt going good, I told him NO. About now i really dont care how he comes up with the money, if all goes to plan he should pay $1000,- next week and the other $2000,- before the 12th.

I'm going to give some context to this. DSP actually whined in chat before the stream about Patreon going poorly:
[11:28] <darksydephil> i seriously hope people start pledging to patreon. if we dont even hit the standard goal its gonna be a disaster in january.
[11:28] <darksydephil> i hope people were just holding out for christmas or something
He also begged harder than usual on prestream for Patreon, claiming no one has pledged for a week. That's something @SoapQueen1 would have to prove or disprove, but it's pretty stagnant in the $900-910 range for over a week, and now ~3 days at 178 patrons ~$902 public amount pledged.
Regarding tips income, he easily has $1K. Since DSP revealed the 'backtaxes' problem on November 23rd's Hate Live, people have tipped AT LEAST ~$3091.73, nearly $1900 of that in November, the remaining almost $1200 in December when I can't really track sub$2 tips any more. He's also received one or 2 pledged then pulled $50 pledges on Patreon, which I THINK DSP can ask Patreon to send him money at any time - he doesn't have to wait until after the 1st of the month when the recurring pledges are billed.

Slightly off topic but a quick reminder of Phil's estimated rough earnings, outgoing payments: based off information compiled by folk like @EddyB43 and even Phil himself he earns between 5-8k a month combined. That said he's paying two separate mortgages which I think according to Phil is around thousand each, then car payments, his Internet costs, utilities and other bills such as phone.

Quick clarification, DSP claims the CT condo lease AND the WA 'house' mortgage are each ~$1500. I never looked hard into whether those were lies or not, they seemed feasible amounts and when you add in utilities, quarterly up-front guesstimated IRS tax payments it made sense that he'd be spending $5K+/month just to tread water.

 

[James Smith]

DSP actually whined in chat before the stream about Patreon going poorly:
[11:28] <darksydephil> i seriously hope people start pledging to patreon. if we dont even hit the standard goal its gonna be a disaster in january.
[11:28] <darksydephil> i hope people were just holding out for christmas or something
He also begged harder than usual on prestream for Patreon, claiming no one has pledged for a week. That's something @SoapQueen1 would have to prove or disprove, but it's pretty stagnant in the $900-910 range for over a week, and now ~3 days at 178 patrons ~$902 public amount pledged.

2017-12-13T00:57:00-0600 1 44.47
2017-12-13T03:38:00-0600 1 4.35
2017-12-13T23:07:00-0600 1 0.89
2017-12-14T04:53:00-0600 -1 -4.45
2017-12-14T17:19:00-0600 0 -3.56
2017-12-15T09:17:00-0600 1 4.45
2017-12-16T00:50:00-0600 1 1.50
2017-12-18T00:57:00-0600 0 -4.44

Just the past week.

 

[JackDavis]

AFAIK Patreon has no rules to stop people from not delivering their goals. It's up to the people who support them to decide whether they want to continue pledging.

I can confirm this. I messaged the Patreon help desk, asking them about transparency because there is nothing stopping someone from saying they didn't hit a goal just to not deliver on a reward. The guy basically said no transparency, its up to you to decide whether to keep pledging or not. It's a very heartless operation.

 

[Le Redditeur Part Deux]

I wonder when Patreon will start getting slammed for fraud. Because it seems impossible that organized crime isn't use it to launder money at this point.