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Designated Whiner Shitting Street - General non DSP-specific discussion and stupid questions goes here
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When you sign an NDA, you're agreeing not to disclose things, even on the Internet. Not sure how to make this any simpler.
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Threadbanned because a moderator thinks he knows more about European measuring standards than people who actually live there, like three weeks after the post was made at that, seems legit. Well, whatever, I'd already unfollowed the thread anyway so I can't say I care much more than just posting it and laughing at it.
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Phoebe Cates
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He'd actually have to do some of the work in missionary so I doubt it.
JackDavis
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Completely agreed. Girl on Top always due to his muhback and laziness.
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There's a set of thoughts that need to be unpacked here
I have been on record multiple times as not completely believing in every scrap of info Kim gave us, tagged @neger psykolog in posts where I don't agree with him personally, even wrote long-ass posts nitpicking and analyzing it all, but I wasn't threadbanned because it was always clear that my questions are building on what others asked already, not constantly repeating the same 7-10 questions, which is really annoying to read. We always aim to get more info and answers out of a source, not badger them relentlessly, and what happened was badgering, not discussion.
The way I see it, the past moderation-light approach has heavily blurred the line between Kiwi and detractor, because if you read through the MysteryWoman thread again, you can immediately see who's seen and posted on a variety of cows, and who's a DSP-only poster. The culture clash is simply that stark.
Don't believe me? Take a look at two incidents where a verified leak appeared to share info on a cow and see the difference in Kiwi/Source interaction:
Nippleless Woman on Russell Greer
Dawn Dusk on Theresa Rose Christo (read 1, then 2)
I think a lot of people who got threadbanned were clearly hoping for a silver bullet on Phil, the thing that will finally get Twitch to kick him out and begin his descent into homelessness, and got disappointed when Phil paid up and survived for another day. There is simply no other explanation for people who were cracking escort jokes suddenly flipping the switch and getting ultra-salty.
Don't get me wrong, Phil is a very A-Loggable cow, but we aren't out to get him, from my point-of-view, the Farms are only invested in seeing him organically and very gradually fade into oblivion. We are in for the ride, not the destination.
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You're also forgetting that she had to cop to some details that initially weren't provided by her. My personal theory is that she intended to reveal a fraction of what was revealed and press Phil with the possibility of the rest of the details eventually leaking. But we were much better at vetting the story and finding connections to other people than she anticipated, so the only solution is to introduce lies lies and more lies into the mix, so we would end up with this exact situation: Somewhere between truth and deceit.
I went into more detail here. It's among the many posts (some mine, most by others) that simply get ignored for the sake of asking the same repetitive questions for no rational reason.
No offence, but you don't get to say it's garbage because you can't post there.
I have been on record multiple times as not completely believing in every scrap of info Kim gave us, tagged @neger psykolog in posts where I don't agree with him personally, even wrote long-ass posts nitpicking and analyzing it all, but I wasn't threadbanned because it was always clear that my questions are building on what others asked already, not constantly repeating the same 7-10 questions, which is really annoying to read. We always aim to get more info and answers out of a source, not badger them relentlessly, and what happened was badgering, not discussion.
The way I see it, the past moderation-light approach has heavily blurred the line between Kiwi and detractor, because if you read through the MysteryWoman thread again, you can immediately see who's seen and posted on a variety of cows, and who's a DSP-only poster. The culture clash is simply that stark.
Don't believe me? Take a look at two incidents where a verified leak appeared to share info on a cow and see the difference in Kiwi/Source interaction:
Nippleless Woman on Russell Greer
Dawn Dusk on Theresa Rose Christo (read 1, then 2)
Word of advice: If you see anything on this site in terms of victory/defeat, then you are really misunderstanding it. Because the ethos of this board are just very, very different from that.
I think a lot of people who got threadbanned were clearly hoping for a silver bullet on Phil, the thing that will finally get Twitch to kick him out and begin his descent into homelessness, and got disappointed when Phil paid up and survived for another day. There is simply no other explanation for people who were cracking escort jokes suddenly flipping the switch and getting ultra-salty.
Don't get me wrong, Phil is a very A-Loggable cow, but we aren't out to get him, from my point-of-view, the Farms are only invested in seeing him organically and very gradually fade into oblivion. We are in for the ride, not the destination.
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This isn't a legally enforceable contract (for reasons already explained by now), so it all depends on your definition of disclosure, but honor amongst thieves is the watch word here IMO.
You're also forgetting that she had to cop to some details that initially weren't provided by her. My personal theory is that she intended to reveal a fraction of what was revealed and press Phil with the possibility of the rest of the details eventually leaking. But we were much better at vetting the story and finding connections to other people than she anticipated, so the only solution is to introduce lies lies and more lies into the mix, so we would end up with this exact situation: Somewhere between truth and deceit.
I went into more detail here. It's among the many posts (some mine, most by others) that simply get ignored for the sake of asking the same repetitive questions for no rational reason.
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You can't tell me you don't think blabbing on Twitter and a forum half of his fanbase reads doesn't count as a disclosure.
Nothing is being ignored, it's just that these explanations are all handwavy bullshit. Like this latest "It doesn't break the NDA if she lies about his penis size!" theory.
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You may've noticed that many people on her are still dismissing MysteryWoman as 100% full of shit, never hired by Phil, possibly not even actually an escort. To just talk about it is within the leeway the agency gives her to ensure payment from a client in minor breach of contract (which Phil became when he blocked her on Twitter). To actually show the concrete irrefutable proof of her contract with Phil in a way that can't just be dismissed as internet trolling would definitely go outside what her agency would allow without Phil violating the NDA first. If that's unsatisfying, that's understandable, but you're probably never going to be satisfied.
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Which is why she tried to fix it by introducing doubt into the equation.
Plus, he still retains deniability, nothing she says is proven without the documents. It's all "he said, she said".
Escorting is shady business, so don't expect any straight info out of an escort, especially high-class ones. Because they live with secrets everyday, and they know exactly how much to reveal to get what they want. They are the very definition of unreliable narrator, but even unreliable narrators must include slivers of truth to be believed, no?
You're free to feel that it's handwavy, I personally don't, I approached this very cautiously, recall that I didn't believe anything past the bare-bones story. Which is why I proposed a framework to determine what is true/verified and what's not.
You need to realize that none of us have any stakes in believing or disbelieving what she said, or convincing anyone of it, we're simply trying for high-quality discussions to reach the truth, if you're simply disappointed that the pigroach lives for another day, then you do you.
And one last point, and I recognize this is subjective, but I have repeatedly tagged her in every post I made about this little theory of mine, and she only chose to respond to stuff she can take in circular discussions, mostly made by people who got threadbanned, that lends some small credence to my hunch here, even if it doesn't necessarily prove it.
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You really can't say that about all the threadbans. I don't care about DSP dying or living, he's one of the cows I'm the least engaged in of all the threads I post in, but I still got threadbanned, apparently because I pointed out that almost everyone in Europe uses cm and not inches like 3 weeks ago.
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I didn't say that I agreed with all the threadbans, and I honestly thought yours was a bit overboard.
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LOL, we don't know what the agency's rules are any more than we know what's in the NDA. It would be pretty easy to clear all this up by showing us a blank, unsigned copy of what one of these standard agreements looks like.
I don't claim that 100% of everything is bullshit, but this mystery NDA that allows her to reveal her client's dick size on Twitter is absurd. No John with privacy concerns is ever agreeing to anything like that.
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People are starting to get banned again in the main thread....... starting to be like phils forums.
I got banned for asking about the dick size thing.... even tho she adressed that in specific it was an example where I was asking what was in the NDA.... being that dick size, the dates that met, how many times, how much $, how many other hookers he has had, rape allegations. what his fetish is, another girl who only goes online to watch dsp, and thats just off the top of my head,
how the fuck would any of that not be in the 'NDA". she would have been fine and I would have stayed believe her until him getting 5 other hookers, the cops watching him for some time (like he is the zodiac killer or some shit) on a rape allegation. And just other shit added to the story.
Was supposed to stop once she got "paid" yet decided to stick around and keep coming up with new stories. Thats what I dont get if the goal was to just get paid. then it would have ended.
One would figure that all of that would for sure ruin any future business with another client if she was running her mouth on that amount of shit. What client would take that risk, seeing that they would pay and still get trashed.
Red flags everywhere. bunch of people were unbanned for awhile, then shit went back to how dsp's mods are in his chat
I got banned for asking about the dick size thing.... even tho she adressed that in specific it was an example where I was asking what was in the NDA.... being that dick size, the dates that met, how many times, how much $, how many other hookers he has had, rape allegations. what his fetish is, another girl who only goes online to watch dsp, and thats just off the top of my head,
how the fuck would any of that not be in the 'NDA". she would have been fine and I would have stayed believe her until him getting 5 other hookers, the cops watching him for some time (like he is the zodiac killer or some shit) on a rape allegation. And just other shit added to the story.
Was supposed to stop once she got "paid" yet decided to stick around and keep coming up with new stories. Thats what I dont get if the goal was to just get paid. then it would have ended.
One would figure that all of that would for sure ruin any future business with another client if she was running her mouth on that amount of shit. What client would take that risk, seeing that they would pay and still get trashed.
Red flags everywhere. bunch of people were unbanned for awhile, then shit went back to how dsp's mods are in his chat
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She ignored my request for an update on the status of that podcast. Must be under NDA.
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This idiot is suspected of being a TKOH spy and can suck my dick
I have to ask @neger psykolog with your unwavering support of @MysteryWoman and all the threadbans of people bringing legit criticism to her story, what the hell is going on or being promised behind the scenes?
You can keep telling her to ignore certain post and not respond with evidence as long as you want, but eventually this story is going to implode and you are going to look very foolish putting in so much effort for bullshit.
I'm saying this because out of all of us you have the power to get some straight answers out off her publicaly but you refuse too.
It's really quite amazing how the supervisor of a sub forum meant to laugh and gossip about DarkSydePhil can so easily adapt his same tactics to shut people up.
You can keep telling her to ignore certain post and not respond with evidence as long as you want, but eventually this story is going to implode and you are going to look very foolish putting in so much effort for bullshit.
I'm saying this because out of all of us you have the power to get some straight answers out off her publicaly but you refuse too.
It's really quite amazing how the supervisor of a sub forum meant to laugh and gossip about DarkSydePhil can so easily adapt his same tactics to shut people up.
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nigga someone was posting about how to install fucking heating elements, there was a god damn ethics debate about prostitution
everything you've said has been said before and if you're not satisfied then email her or pm her. i'm not her pr agent but everyone keeps talking about the same shit so i've elected to threadban every last motherfucker that has said something stupid.
case closed motherfucker, the shooter was autism.
wait for the girlfriend reveal or don't, i really don't care, if you're not convinced by now then you're never going to be convinced and she's obviously never going to release more evidence if you try and ask the same question 1000 times in a slightly different way.
you bunch of spastics couldn't even wait 2 weeks for the payment deadline let alone a month for DSP to reveal his girlfriend so i'll push da autism button and you can wait it out in this thread.
everyone has essentially had free reign with that thread for about a month now, if you're just going to end up saying the same shit 50x over and asked to be banned then post in here.
also:
go post on tkoh faggot i dont give a shit
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I wonder how much Vidar paid this guy to go full metal autism in here.
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I heard Full Metal Autism is a decent sequel to Alchemist