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Not trying to powerlevel, but my dad worked for GE and he got a pension and had a retirement savings account in addition to the stocks he had when GE would match you dollar for dollar. Mom got half the pension when he passed along with the other things. So Bob could have left Barb with quite a bit, but she blew it on a lawyer.

Was the house free and clear when Bob passed? Or did they mortgage it while he was still alive?
House was paid off as far as we knew. Bob left them with good money. Enough to last a little while but then they spent all of it and then some in the attorney for Snyder incident.

Then the mace incident happened and it took another big chunk of money. Apparently they are second mortgage deep and Chris no longer has anything in his life insurance. Part of that may be from the mace incident. Who knows.
 
Probally but it’s entirely her own fault for taking out a pointless loan on her house because the Chandlers can’t stop wasting money.
I'd wager from Barb's point of view, it wasn't pointless. Her husband and bread-winner (Bob) was gone and left her with an autistic e-celeb. Maybe she figured early on Chris didn't have the capacity to care for her when she really got up in years to take care of her (home care or assisted living) just figured she'd just make financial decisions that benefited her in last few years.

I've mentioned I work with seniors before, but let me tell you, seniors and baby boomers are batshit crazy when it comes to their home, or retirement savings. If Barb sacrificed the potential liquid assets Bob left, the house is something she will fight to stay in no matter what, even if Chris pays dearly in the long run. (Barb is shit, I get it, but if this were the case, her shitty behavior actually would be pretty in-line with people her age)
 
Then the mace incident happened and it took another big chunk of money. Apparently they are second mortgage deep and Chris no longer has anything in his life insurance. Part of that may be from the mace incident. Who knows.
The mace case was handled by a public defender, so it only cost them about $500 from the court fine.
 
Guess who got Chris to follow them on Twitter bitchezzzzz
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You're proud enough of that to announce it here?

If you haven't gotten Chris to cry or stick broken pieces of his childhood up his ass you ain't done nothing.
 
I'd wager from Barb's point of view, it wasn't pointless. Her husband and bread-winner (Bob) was gone and left her with an autistic e-celeb. Maybe she figured early on Chris didn't have the capacity to care for her when she really got up in years to take care of her (home care or assisted living) just figured she'd just make financial decisions that benefited her in last few years.

I've mentioned I work with seniors before, but let me tell you, seniors and baby boomers are batshit crazy when it comes to their home, or retirement savings. If Barb sacrificed the potential liquid assets Bob left, the house is something she will fight to stay in no matter what, even if Chris pays dearly in the long run. (Barb is shit, I get it, but if this were the case, her shitty behavior actually would be pretty in-line with people her age)
While it's horrible to say, if I was Barb and the last three decades of my life centered around caring for a manchild like Chris who is extremely difficult to control, acts like a 5 year old, rarely bathes, got kicked out of 2 different schools, refuses to work, regularly gets banned from stores, spends all his money on children's toys, accidentally burnt the house down out of his carelessness, keeps getting arrested which results in court dates and fines/lawyer fees, is the target of internet trolls which manifests in as random people stalking us and calling the house just to scream at me at 3 AM, has had naked pictures of himself tricked out of him and leaked online multiple times, is dressing like and demanding everyone refer to him as a woman, and refusing to even attempt to improve himself, I'd probably resent him too and take out massive loans so I can live the last few years of my life the way I want, even if it fucks him over with massive debt he has no way of paying off after.
 
While it's horrible to say, if I was Barb and the last three decades of my life centered around caring for a manchild like Chris who is extremely difficult to control, acts like a 5 year old, rarely bathes, got kicked out of 2 different schools, refuses to work, regularly gets banned from stores, spends all his money on children's toys, accidentally burnt the house down out of his carelessness, keeps getting arrested which results in court dates and fines/lawyer fees, is the target of internet trolls which manifests in as random people stalking us and calling the house just to scream at me at 3 AM, has had naked pictures of himself tricked out of him and leaked online multiple times, is dressing like and demanding everyone refer to him as a woman, and refusing to even attempt to improve himself, I'd probably resent him too and take out massive loans so I can live the last few years of my life the way I want, even if it fucks him over with massive debt he has no way of paying off after.

Wasn't it Barb who was responsible for the cup of coffee that resulted in the house fire? Chris doesn't strike me as a coffee drinker.
 
While it's horrible to say, if I was Barb and the last three decades of my life centered around caring for a manchild like Chris who is extremely difficult to control, acts like a 5 year old, rarely bathes, got kicked out of 2 different schools, refuses to work, regularly gets banned from stores, spends all his money on children's toys, accidentally burnt the house down out of his carelessness, keeps getting arrested which results in court dates and fines/lawyer fees, is the target of internet trolls which manifests in as random people stalking us and calling the house just to scream at me at 3 AM, has had naked pictures of himself tricked out of him and leaked online multiple times, is dressing like and demanding everyone refer to him as a woman, and refusing to even attempt to improve himself, I'd probably resent him too and take out massive loans so I can live the last few years of my life the way I want, even if it fucks him over with massive debt he has no way of paying off after.
Barb is a pretty big hoarder herself so she's partially responsible for the fact that the house was a giant fire hazard. You also seem to be under the impression that Barb is some helpless victim here instead some crazy old bat. This is someone who didn't cook for years because Bob and Chris didn't eat her spaghetti one night. Didn't Chris say she threatened to kill him once as well? And hasn't she threatened suicide to get Chris to listen to her before? I'm sure when Chris bought her that $400 necklace she wasn't thinking of their financial well-being either because if it's going into her pockets I doubt she cares much. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if she manipulates him into buying things for her.
Either way, while the house fire is major, the other things are still more than enough to drive someone like Barb to resent her son.
Chris probably has more reason to resent Barb than she does to resent him. Cole wants nothing to do with Barb. And IIRC neither does the rest of the family. They have to have some reason for that.
 
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While it's horrible to say, if I was Barb and the last three decades of my life centered around caring for a manchild like Chris who is extremely difficult to control, acts like a 5 year old, rarely bathes, got kicked out of 2 different schools, refuses to work, regularly gets banned from stores, spends all his money on children's toys, accidentally burnt the house down out of his carelessness, keeps getting arrested which results in court dates and fines/lawyer fees, is the target of internet trolls which manifests in as random people stalking us and calling the house just to scream at me at 3 AM, has had naked pictures of himself tricked out of him and leaked online multiple times, is dressing like and demanding everyone refer to him as a woman, and refusing to even attempt to improve himself, I'd probably resent him too and take out massive loans so I can live the last few years of my life the way I want, even if it fucks him over with massive debt he has no way of paying off after.

The only reason that all happened was because Bob and Barb refused to accept the fact that their son was a special needs child. And, instead of raising him in a structured environment (giving him basic rules to follow, praising him when he was good and disciplining him when he was bad, getting him a proper education, etc), they spoiled him rotten - giving him everything he wanted, not making him take personal responsibility for the negative things that happened in his life that were a result of his own foolish actions; teaching him that the fault laid on everyone else, instead- which turned him into the entitled, selfish, arrogant individual we all know today.

So, yeah - though I would normally feel awful for an elderly person having to live under such conditions; I'd like to see Barb's current living arrangement as some weird form of poetic justice; having to depend on a creature of her own creation. But - much like her son - she probably blames 'the trolls' for her situation instead of taking accountability for her own screw ups.
 
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When it comes to their financial situation, Barb takes a good chunk of Chris' money under the guise of bills. If she actually uses them towards the bills, well, that's a whole other story. She still has judgments against her, one of them being $15,000. There's likely a lien against the house. When Barb passes, if Chris is to inherit the house he might inherit the lien(s) too. I do feel sorry for Chris in the aspect that Barb fucked(and still is) Chris over for his future. Bob wasn't a saint, but he tried leave something for Barb and Chris when he passed away. Barb will be leaving Chris a mound of debt, especially if they cosigned anything together.
 
While it's horrible to say, if I was Barb and the last three decades of my life centered around caring for a manchild like Chris who is extremely difficult to control, acts like a 5 year old, rarely bathes, got kicked out of 2 different schools, refuses to work, regularly gets banned from stores, spends all his money on children's toys, accidentally burnt the house down out of his carelessness, keeps getting arrested which results in court dates and fines/lawyer fees, is the target of internet trolls which manifests in as random people stalking us and calling the house just to scream at me at 3 AM, has had naked pictures of himself tricked out of him and leaked online multiple times, is dressing like and demanding everyone refer to him as a woman, and refusing to even attempt to improve himself, I'd probably resent him too and take out massive loans so I can live the last few years of my life the way I want, even if it fucks him over with massive debt he has no way of paying off after.
Like 50% of that Barb was indirectly responsible for. The other 50% she was directly responsible for, or even directly engaged in herself (hitting snyder and driving off, or burning down 14BC).
Either way, while the house fire is major, the other things are still more than enough to drive someone like Barb to resent her son.
Not really.

Chris has fulfilled virtually every request she's made of him, to their mutual suffering.
 
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Like 50% of that Barb was indirectly responsible for. The other 50% she was directly responsible for, or even directly engaged in herself (hitting snyder and driving off, or burning down 14BC).
Haha yeah, Barb goaded Chris into going back into the game place to begin with. She pointed out the "under new management" sign.

Plus I kinda lay Chris's toy addiction at Barbs feet too. She literally used "retail therapy" on Chris as a child. She made the toy aisle a place of holy reverence for Chris, which also probably contributes to his constant trespassing to be in them.
 
Like 50% of that Barb was indirectly responsible for. The other 50% she was directly responsible for, or even directly engaged in herself (hitting snyder and driving off, or burning down 14BC).

Not really.

Chris has fulfilled virtually every request she's made of him, to their mutual suffering.
Good point. Is it possible she's deluded herself into thinking it's Chris's fault the same way she thinks Cole just went crazy one day for no reason?
 
Good point. Is it possible she's deluded herself into thinking it's Chris's fault the same way she thinks Cole just went crazy one day for no reason?
To be fair, he hit his head on the bus. That kind of trauma is known to cause people to hate their mother over keeping the identity of their real father secret. Cranial latent Bastard syndrome is the medical term.
 
While I don't disagree with what anyone is saying, Chris is a 36 year old man still living at home, being a drain to the resourses.

Cheis has cost his family well over $100,000 just due to his tism. If Chris hasn't been hellbent on going to Game Stop, Barb never would have been there.

People can't say "Chris needs to take on more responsibility" then complain that Barb is taking too much money. Chris is a man. He needs to take on his full share of the house burdens and not live there like he's an 18 year old boy.

I'm not white knighting Barb. I'm saying Chris needs to learn what it takes to maintain a home, and sitting around begging amd complaining isn't gonna cut it.
 
While I don't disagree with what anyone is saying, Chris is a 36 year old man still living at home, being a drain to the resourses.

Cheis has cost his family well over $100,000 just due to his tism. If Chris hasn't been hellbent on going to Game Stop, Barb never would have been there.

People can't say "Chris needs to take on more responsibility" then complain that Barb is taking too much money. Chris is a man. He needs to take on his full share of the house burdens and not live there like he's an 18 year old boy.

I'm not white knighting Barb. I'm saying Chris needs to learn what it takes to maintain a home, and sitting around begging amd complaining isn't gonna cut it.

No arguments there. The issue is how do you get CWC to accept that reality.

The sad truth is; you can't - because he refuses to; meaning he'll have to learn the hard way.
 
No arguments there. The issue is how do you get CWC to accept that reality.

The sad truth is; you can't - because he refuses to; meaning he'll have to learn the hard way.
The unironic best thing for Chris right now would be for him to live in a group home for people with autism. Somewhere trained to deal with people as messed up as him that won't just kick him out. Somewhere that will force him to take responsibility for his life and his actions.
Unfortunately, neither him nor Barb want that and it'd probably be too expensive and far away for him even if they both did.
 
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