Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

[scathefire]

this is the type of person you see in public sometimes who wears over 1 million progressive tumblr pins and you have to quietly hold in your hysterical laughter

 

[howyadoin]

Not gonna lie, if someone remains an enby without appearing to have detransitioned (like the trender on my facebook who has clearly detransitioned but kept her new name and stuff) over time, then honestly i'm more likely to take them seriously than the cis girls who post selfies in the FTM tags on tumblr with obvious cleavage showing and makeup done.

If enbies want to be taken more seriously, they'd better be backed up by hard science, not the "if you're a girl who doesn't act like a girl you're nonbinary! uwu" bullshit.

 

[LtCucumber]

If enbies want to be taken more seriously, they'd better be backed up by hard science, not the "if you're a girl who doesn't act like a girl you're nonbinary! uwu" bullshit.

So actually having dysphoria, when like 95% of tumblr enbies claim to be nondysphoric and say that you don't actually need dysphoria to be trans.

 

[scathefire]

So actually having dysphoria, when like 95% of tumblr enbies claim to be nondysphoric and say that you don't actually need dysphoria to be trans.

Either that or they may have the “Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria” phenomenon from that Brown University study which got REEEEEEEd off the website. Of course it’s not completely proven, but it’s interesting nonetheless

 

[LtCucumber]

Either that or they may have the “Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria” phenomenon from that Brown University study which got REEEEEEEd off the website. Of course it’s not completely proven, but it’s interesting nonetheless

I still don't understand rapid-onset dysphoria. Got a simple explanation for a non-scientific minded person such as myself?

 

[Cure Milquetoast]

I still don't understand rapid-onset dysphoria. Got a simple explanation for a non-scientific minded person such as myself?

It's when someone only experiences dysphoria symptoms post-puberty (instead of having symptoms pre-puberty as well), due to social pressures. The implication being that without these pressures in place, they would not have experienced dysphoria in the first place.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

It's when someone only experiences dysphoria symptoms post-puberty (instead of having symptoms pre-puberty as well), due to social pressures. The implication being that without these pressures in place, they would not have experienced dysphoria in the first place.

Frankly, I'm skeptical that this research is just taking the phenomenon of transtrenders and trying to imply they have a new classification of gender dysphoria. It's a misleading title to use when a large part of the contagion is attempting to dismantle the entire concept of dysphoria so no clear social or medical boundaries exist.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I still don't understand rapid-onset dysphoria. Got a simple explanation for a non-scientific minded person such as myself?

The idea behind ROGD is that it might very well be considered an example of a socially-spread culture-bound syndrome, like the "glass delusion" or "fan death" or the guys in Africa who think a witch stole their dick (even though their dick is still there).

Sometimes people in an area start to get a weird idea, and when they talk about it to other people, a few of them follow, too.

My personal lolcow had a group of 4 total girls in high school who hung out every day, were super close and talked daily way past when they'd all moved away from each other. Now, they're ALL FTM. Every single one. They read so much slash fic and played so many gay visual novels that they decided they could only express the true depths of their feelings by being gay men.

 

[LtCucumber]

It's when someone only experiences dysphoria symptoms post-puberty (instead of having symptoms pre-puberty as well), due to social pressures. The implication being that without these pressures in place, they would not have experienced dysphoria in the first place.

I was under the impression that rapid-onset was more something to do with being more quickly than since puberty- as in someone only thinking they're having gender problems after being exposed to that sort of thing, and mistaking other things for dysphoria. Whoops

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Good question... Are there any middle aged enbies out there? I'm genuinely curious now

have you ever heard of se smith? not legitimately middle aged, i don't think, but definitely too old for this shit (30+ years old). she (sorry, 'ou') is terrible.

here's some people discussing her terribleness, there was a ton of stuff on GOMI but it looks like it's been deleted or at least isn't in google search results, I can try to find it though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/6bi2hj/xojane_throwback_thread/dhrysbe/
https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/86gom8/share_your_favorite_xojanexovain_posts/dw52va0/

 

[scathefire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/86gom8/share_your_favorite_xojanexovain_posts/dw52va0/

I guess she follows the bell hooks school of “capital letters are for the white man”.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Good question... Are there any middle aged enbies out there? I'm genuinely curious now

Back in the day, we used to just say we were really different from other girls, buy a pair of Doc Martens, write some shitty poetry and post it to a listserv, and cultivate a few deliberately masculine habits to differentiate ourselves.

Somehow, pronouns never entered into it. Eventually, most of us gave it up and realized the normies weren't so bad. I think my Docs are still kicking around in a closet somewhere, unworn for a couple of decades.

 

[CokeFather]

Oh no it's retarded.

 

[scathefire]

Oh no it's exceptional.

 

[Sonya-chan]

Ace are not lgbt, sorry ren

 

[Skullshatterer]

Nombinary just transformed itself in a cool third gender because male or female isn't that cool anymore (unless you're trans of course) you can just dress how you like anyway because there isn't a "way to look nombinary". I've only been witness of girls in this trend, usually the ones that because they don't want to wear make up 24/7 are obviously SO different from cis girls. I've seen many call themselves non-binary lesbians. But using lesbian doesn't mean you're a woman anyway?

Also to those that say they are non-binary women or men, adding men or women doesn't just defy the purpose of "non binary"? It makes no sense. You're just a guy or girl that want to look like special.

I think Agender is basicslly the same as being non-binary if I remember correctly, just a different word.

I also like how they always give themselves 3 or 4 different names because they just can't pick one.

 

[scathefire]

Also to those that say they are non-binary women or men, adding men or women doesn't just defy the purpose of "non binary"? It makes no sense. You're just a guy or girl that want to look like special.

I'm pretty sure the purpose of that label is referring to a sliding scale of gender, with male and female on the ends and non-binary in the center. "Non-binary woman" would be between female and non-binary. It's really just a petty excuse to gain the trans social capital without actually having to endure genuine dysphoria

 

[Skullshatterer]

I'm pretty sure the purpose of that label is referring to a sliding scale of gender, with male and female on the ends and non-binary in the center. "Non-binary woman" would be between female and non-binary. It's really just a petty excuse to gain the trans social capital without actually having to endure genuine dysphoria

I understand the idea behind it but it's still is such a unnecessary label.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I'm pretty sure the purpose of that label is referring to a sliding scale of gender, with male and female on the ends and non-binary in the center. "Non-binary woman" would be between female and non-binary. It's really just a petty excuse to gain the trans social capital without actually having to endure genuine dysphoria

sick and tired of 'non-binary femmes' who are straight women wearing bright red lipstick and a 1950s dress complaining about being 'oppressed' and inserting themselves into spaces they don't belong and bitching about being misgendered

 

[howyadoin]

Not Tumblr, but since Twitter is becoming Tumblr 2.0, why not?