Do you think Phil is actually depressed?

[dsflfdsl23012]

I believe he does have depression. His lifestyle, being practically socially isolated, losing friends, his looming debt and getting shitted on every day while begging for tips would be depressing for anyone. Problem is he put himself in that situation. It's not like he went through a traumatic event or had something bad happen to him that was out of his control (to be fair, there was nothing he could do though). He made all the choices that got him to where he is.

I do believe him also when he says his depression makes him do dumb shit or not see things clearly. Anyone with depression will understand that. You don't always feel like yourself. Things can feel distorted or hopeless. But I don't know anyone who acts like total cunt to everyone who tries to help them or offer advice. They might be more withdrawn. They might be irritable or have other odd behaviors. But they don't like total arrogant dickbags while also bullshitting and scamming people out of their money and then spending it on frivolous stuff. Okay sure, some people might impulse buy or be irresponsible with their money to get some short term happiness but they aren't buying multiple houses, BMWs and all kinds of other dumb ass shit. That's on another a whole other level.

I believe he has depression with all of the shit going on in his life right now. But I also think he has depression because of his guilty conscience. He knows what he's doing isn't right and he knows everything that comes out of his mouth is lies and bullshit. Problem with DSP, and where I stop giving a shit, is how he chooses to respond. A normal person would realize that they're depressed by both. Their circumstances are bad, but also that they had a hand in it and they need to make amends with that. They need to man up, accept responsibility, and then handle the consequences. DSP realizes he's both in a bad situation, and that he had a huge part in everything that happened but then rationalizes it as "No. That's not what really happened because IM THE REALEST MOTHERFUCKER ON THE INTERNET!11 and I gotta puff myself up and blame everyone else and keep da business a float blah blah blah etc etc etc".

He talks about being "a real human being". How he has "moments of weakness". To a point he's right. He doesn't seem like some evil sociopath. He's had moments of seeming like he could be a decent guy. But it's like every time you want to give the guy a chance he does some off the wall shit like ranting and insulting people. You see the person for a second, and then he panics and the facade comes right back up. As long as DSP clings to this image and narrative he has for himself, his situation is only going to get worse.

 

[Wing Zero]

He's had moments of seeming like he could be a decent guy. But it's like every time you want to give the guy a chance he does some off the wall shit like ranting and insulting people. You see the person for a second, and then he panics and the facade comes right back up. As long as DSP clings to this image and narrative he has for himself, his situation is only going to get worse.

I don't buy that for a second. The Phil that rants and insults people isn't a facade that he keeps up to maintain his DSP image - that's just Phil being himself.

 

[Meech]

Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is depressed. Im guessing the first step to beating it isnt "Just blame everything bad on the depression dood!"

He clings to anything that validates his world view and brings it up as often as he can. Look how he uses the Escort Saga as his excuse for how everything that is said about him is a lie. He probably got told he was depressed by a therapist and just began to use that as his reason for his many flaws.

 

[toothless_banana]

I think the only thing Dave suffers from, aside from premature baldness, some form of gynecomastia, gout, and the other ailments associated with a middle-age man with a terrible diet and little-to-no exercise, is that he was too much of a momma's boy, and his mother happened to be histrionic.. I don't know what their household was like, but I don't see him taking as much after as the seemingly no-nonsense former marine that has adjusted to working in numerous job fields, and has at least basic knowledge of tools and how to fix things. You grow up under someone like that, and at least some of that knowledge is gleaned from watching them fix stuffs, or manage the upkeep on the home repairs. From what little I've seen of him/their interactions, doesn't seem to be the sort whose first instinct would be to call for help.

His suffering from Histrionic Personality Disorder, or getting a good deal of that from his mother, is something I could easily see, though.

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[PlasticOwls]

Having depression doesn't mean youre not an asshole.

 

[CausticMinory]

He's depressed and he thinks a surplus of spending will medicate it. That's why he's always crying poor, and spending money on stupid shit. If he just buys the latest and greatest in [x] maybe he can keep the thoughts of "failure" away. It's not the detractors Phil is worried seeing him fail, the detractors are a scapegoat for his real feelings he's hiding under a false bravado. That's why everything wrong is everyone's fault except his.

 

[ZehnBoat]

He's depressed and he thinks a surplus of spending will medicate it. That's why he's always crying poor, and spending money on stupid shit. If he just buys the latest and greatest in [x] maybe he can keep the thoughts of "failure" away. It's not the detractors Phil is worried seeing him fail, the detractors are a scapegoat for his real feelings he's hiding under a false bravado. That's why everything wrong is everyone's fault except his.

as i said before, phil isn't depressed. but he is lonely
he has a hole in his heart, and instead of filling it with things normal people do
he drinks, and gets his fix of donations. he needs his satisfaction NOW NOW NOW NOW
going out to meet people is too risky and takes too long to get something good
and considering he considers no person his equal he will remain lonely for the rest of his life, until he gets rid of his ego and stops thinking of himself so highly.

in otherwords, he's doomed to sadness, and doomed his liver to the burden.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

Something that stood out to me after watching the depression video is daves lack of accountability. I’m not an expert on the subject obviously and it varies from person to person, but dave lacks any form of inner criticism you’d probably see in a clinically depressed person. He blames everything around him when in reality I feel it’s a more common trait to question your own self worth in those scenarios. In the video he claims he has all these negative inner thoughts, but almost everything he’s done in life contradicts those claims, and we know he’s not a good liar.

He’s not clinically depressed, he’s miserable and negative and an angry person because of his life choices and current situation

 

[ZehnBoat]

Something that stood out to me after watching the depression video is daves lack of accountability. I’m not an expert on the subject obviously and it varies from person to person, but dave lacks any form of inner criticism you’d probably see in a clinically depressed person. He blames everything around him when in reality I feel it’s a more common trait to question your own self worth in those scenarios. In the video he claims he has all these negative inner thoughts, but almost everything he’s done in life contradicts those claims, and we know he’s not a good liar.

depression makes you hate yourself, and makes you blame yourself for everything

phil can't even admit he does anything wrong when it's shoved into his face
at most you'll get "I DID IT BUT I HAD TO" or "I WAS FORCED TO BE LITTLE VOICES IN MY HEAD" or "THEY MISSED MY POINT" or "SORRY YOU'RE OFFENDED"

a depressed person would think "I fucked up the relationship with my only friends and my girlfriend, i'm a horrible person" phil thinks "DUH DETRACTORS SCARED MY FRIENDS AWAY WHAT MORONS ARF ARF ARF OH WELL GIB MONEYS"

 

[Wurstbrot]

phil can't even admit he does anything wrong when it's shoved into his face

If I could name his disorder, I would call it "Reversed Depression".

I know some depressed people and if they would say to me: "Wurst, there are these voices which say I'm a horrible person, I'm a loser, I'm trash, everything I do is wrong", while believing they are worthless. I would say to them they shouldn't listen to that because they are wonderful people, I admire them for their skills and I really love to hang out with them, because it's always fun.

Phil on the other hand hears the voices and calls them bullshit (which is fine and healthy) but the difference is, they are right, Phil is a terrible bad person (and a loser, and trash and does everything wrong) . They are more like his subconsciesness which tell the truth, so I would say to Phil he should actually listen to that, maybe he will transform into a socially better human.

I would give two statements which stand in complete opposition to each other, to two supposedly depressed people. This can't be right. This is totally reversed, fucked up.

 

[BananaBlue]

I believe he does have depression. His lifestyle, being practically socially isolated, losing friends, his looming debt and getting shitted on every day while begging for tips would be depressing for anyone. Problem is he put himself in that situation. It's not like he went through a traumatic event or had something bad happen to him that was out of his control (to be fair, there was nothing he could do though). He made all the choices that got him to where he is.

I do believe him also when he says his depression makes him do dumb shit or not see things clearly. Anyone with depression will understand that. You don't always feel like yourself. Things can feel distorted or hopeless. But I don't know anyone who acts like total cunt to everyone who tries to help them or offer advice. They might be more withdrawn. They might be irritable or have other odd behaviors. But they don't like total arrogant dickbags while also bullshitting and scamming people out of their money and then spending it on frivolous stuff. Okay sure, some people might impulse buy or be irresponsible with their money to get some short term happiness but they aren't buying multiple houses, BMWs and all kinds of other dumb ass shit. That's on another a whole other level.

I believe he has depression with all of the shit going on in his life right now. But I also think he has depression because of his guilty conscience. He knows what he's doing isn't right and he knows everything that comes out of his mouth is lies and bullshit. Problem with DSP, and where I stop giving a shit, is how he chooses to respond. A normal person would realize that they're depressed by both. Their circumstances are bad, but also that they had a hand in it and they need to make amends with that. They need to man up, accept responsibility, and then handle the consequences. DSP realizes he's both in a bad situation, and that he had a huge part in everything that happened but then rationalizes it as "No. That's not what really happened because IM THE REALEST MOTHERFUCKER ON THE INTERNET!11 and I gotta puff myself up and blame everyone else and keep da business a float blah blah blah etc etc etc".

He talks about being "a real human being". How he has "moments of weakness". To a point he's right. He doesn't seem like some evil sociopath. He's had moments of seeming like he could be a decent guy. But it's like every time you want to give the guy a chance he does some off the wall shit like ranting and insulting people. You see the person for a second, and then he panics and the facade comes right back up. As long as DSP clings to this image and narrative he has for himself, his situation is only going to get worse.

I do think he has depression too but I don't believe he feels bad about him or have remorse about anything or ever thought he did anything wrong.
I think however that boy suffers from anxiety, anxiety every time a new partnership goes to shit or he loses a deal. Every time youtube gives him shit and takes his shekels away. Or the constant trolling from the "detractors" giving him shit, the recent couple that tried to trick Phil with that story about the escort who allegedly offered her services to Phil and it was all but a catfish scam. Phil is probably in constant paranoia, scared, worried, probably sleepless nights from time to time. And that can fuck with his brain, his mental health.

I don't think he feels remorse about giving shit to john rambo, about treating pandalee like a low class partner, or does he feel bad about being a dick to the fans.
I think he is just afraid of losing relevancy, of people not giving enough fucks to pay for his shit.

 

[Dark Emporer Dood]

I'd say he does, he just ignores it. Its one of the reasons why he lives in a huge safety "bubble" of sorts.

 

[obliviousbeard]

lolno. He's more bored and frustrated than actually sick.

 

[Iron Father]

I doubt it, though I might be depressed if my whole career was pseudo-speedrunning games while having no fun and endlessly blocking people because most people who watch me play are hate-watching me for the lols.

 

[Scotsman]

Unless he's actually been diagnosed (which I doubt) then fucking no.

Phil's the type of guy who feels a little sad or burnt out every now and again, then runs around crying depression. That's not depression, that's just life.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

I do think he has depression too but I don't believe he feels bad about him or have remorse about anything or ever thought he did anything wrong.
I think however that boy suffers from anxiety, anxiety every time a new partnership goes to shit or he loses a deal. Every time youtube gives him shit and takes his shekels away. Or the constant trolling from the "detractors" giving him shit, the recent couple that tried to trick Phil with that story about the escort who allegedly offered her services to Phil and it was all but a catfish scam. Phil is probably in constant paranoia, scared, worried, probably sleepless nights from time to time. And that can fuck with his brain, his mental health.

I don't think he feels remorse about giving shit to john rambo, about treating pandalee like a low class partner, or does he feel bad about being a dick to the fans.
I think he is just afraid of losing relevancy, of people not giving enough fucks to pay for his shit.

I agree on the anxiety part and it's really his failure of being a man. It was brought up earlier that he just runs away, and avoids any confrontation instead of tackling the problems head on and doing something about it. Blaming others for things when he most likely knows for a fact that its bullshit and it's his own doing.
He won't admit failures unless trapped in a corner. He's constantly anxious because instead of dealing with the problems, he lets them linger in the background while drinking them away temporarily.
His health is shit, he barely gets sunlight or exercise, and drinking all the time will definitely make you feel like shit.

 

[PenisMuncher23]

It's difficult to diagnose him, but he's probably a narcissist. As far as depression goes, he has some of the more less known symptoms, so there's a chance he's depressed. But even if he took care of that with medication/CBT, he would still be a huge piece of garbage.

 

[CoolGuy420weedbonerXXX]

Phil would go to the doctor's to get diagnosed with depression, BUT HE HAS NO TIME DOOD HE'S THE HARDEST WORKING REAL MOTHERFUCKER ON THE INTERNET

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Depression doesn't just mean you feel really sad all the time. It affects mood and even physical health depending on the person and their environment. Look at most of the cows on this site: dirty, irritable, angry and sad that they can't control everything and everyone. If you have a shitty mindset and live in shitty conditions, chances are you feel shitty. Cows are comfortable like this because it makes it easier to go "fuck it, not my fault, life is hard" and give up.

That being said, I don't think Phil is depressed in the way where people think he'd be curled up in bed blubbering like a baby 24/7 or considering suicide or anything like that... he feels like shit because he is shit. I don't want to try and study him clinically because depression itself is such a huge obnoxious spectrum to work with (hmm... sound familiar :autism: ?).

I think Phil is depressed in the way that he is unable to just feel happy and enjoy things. I do not think he deals with emotions like remorse or guilt or wanting affection or social connections (at least, social connections that he can completely control everyone and what they think and do).

He's just a miserable person and doesn't know how not to be miserable... so that makes him more miserable.

 

[Iron Father]

"I was a douche that one time, that wasn't me, that was my depression!"

Okay Phil.