Depends on how you read this, but he's either seen a therapist repeatedly two different times in his life, or he's been to a therapist twice.
Since this is the DSP subforum, I'm guessing he's been twice. There's not really much to say about that but no therapist is going to fix your life in 60 minutes.
Indeed, he's undoubtedly the Avatar of Short-Term-Thinking and the Overlord of Zero Patience. There is no way 2 experts couldn't even get near his problem. Or they did - and his ego kicked in. Damn detractor psychiatrist who try to spin his words without context.
His depression is so strong that 70% of this subforum doubts he has a depression at all. Yeah, sure. I think the bigger problem is his infinite ego. There is no way of healing this.
Indeed, he's undoubtedly the Avatar of Short-Term-Thinking and the Overlord of Zero Patience. There is no way 2 experts couldn't even get near his problem. Or they did - and his ego kicked in. Damn detractor psychiatrist who try to spin his words without context.
His depression is so strong that 70% of this subforum doubts he has a depression at all. Yeah, sure. I think the bigger problem is his infinite ego. There is no way of healing this.
the therapist be all like, this needs more tweed. and with the whole room covered says, nope. phils life is so fucked up that not even all the tweed i have can fix this
Depends on how you read this, but he's either seen a therapist repeatedly two different times in his life, or he's been to a therapist twice.
Since this is the DSP subforum, I'm guessing he's been twice. There's not really much to say about that but no therapist is going to fix your life in 60 minutes.
I think I had 6 sessions over 6 months with meds and that turned me around. I also had a desire to be better. Now I know he's lying, but I'm going to humour his claim. Seeing a therapist, twice, isnt going to get results when your underlying personality (impatient, greedy and all around selfish) means that you want that quick fix which depression doesnt have. So you went to two sessions, ignored what was said and moved on because you didnt get the answer you wanted (a cure now).
But we all know he's lying, so my paragraph is rather irrelevant
I think I had 6 sessions over 6 months with meds and that turned me around. I also had a desire to be better. Now I know he's lying, but I'm going to humour his claim. Seeing a therapist, twice, isnt going to get results when your underlying personality (impatient, greedy and all around selfish) means that you want that quick fix which depression doesnt have. So you went to two sessions, ignored what was said and moved on because you didnt get the answer you wanted (a cure now).
But we all know he's lying, so my paragraph is rather irrelevant
I don't really think he's lying, at least there's no reason to think so. If he'd said he's been secretly seeing a doctor for the past 10 years I'd have a hard time believing that but its very plausible he's seen one in the past.
But yeah, if he's only seen a doctor once (on two separate occasions) and said it didn't help him then he's probably not being very realistic about how long it can take or simply ignores advice given to him.
Just by looking at his entire career on twitch alone he's constantly begging for donations because twitch pays two months out (according to him but im unsure how this works myself) and the bits are instant.
If this is true he's all about the instant gratification. I can easily believe he walked in there and expected to be "cured" in one session.
Just by looking at his entire career on twitch alone he's constantly begging for donations because twitch pays two months out (according to him but im unsure how this works myself) and the bits are instant.
If this is true he's all about the instant gratification. I can easily believe he walked in there and expected to be "cured" in one session.
Bits & Subs come in every 45 days(after you make $100 +). Tips/Donations(whatever you want to call them) are instant, because that goes into his PayPal account. If I’m wrong someone please correct me.
I believe it, Phil's lifestyle is like a fucking poster for depression symptoms (lays around all day playing vidya rotting on the couch, fucked up sleep schedule, often drunk, zero exercise and garbage diet, total social isolation, poor hygiene, etc). I still think he's a narcissistic idiot and blaming his shitty behavior and life on muh depreshun while doing nothing about it is sleazy but not all that uncommon.
That said, I don't blame people for being skeptical, because it's Phil. Mostly everyone stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt for literally anything a long time ago... behave like a toxic pigroach and that will happen.
Depends on how you read this, but he's either seen a therapist repeatedly two different times in his life, or he's been to a therapist twice.
Since this is the DSP subforum, I'm guessing he's been twice. There's not really much to say about that but no therapist is going to fix your life in 60 minutes.
I'd be quick to believe he's seen a psychiatrist for 10 minutes two times in his life, both times taking meds for a while then stopping. I'd also be quick to believe "cocktail of meds" means two, one mood stabilizer and one anti-depressant. Maybe an anti-psychotic to help with illogical thought patterns (for example paranoia and inflated sense of self worth.)
I'd be quick to believe he's seen a psychiatrist for 10 minutes two times in his life, both times taking meds for a while then stopping. I'd also be quick to believe "cocktail of meds" means two, one mood stabilizer and one anti-depressant. Maybe an anti-psychotic to help with illogical thought patterns (for example paranoia and inflated sense of self worth.)
I find it hard to believe they'd prescribe him two medications on his first appointment, but then again if he saw a doctor at high school that would've been in 1990/2000s when I think they were a lot easier about giving out medication.
I find it hard to believe they'd prescribe him two medications on his first appointment, but then again if he saw a doctor at high school that would've been in 1990/2000s when I think they were a lot easier about giving out medication.
I'd be quick to believe he's seen a psychiatrist for 10 minutes two times in his life, both times taking meds for a while then stopping. I'd also be quick to believe "cocktail of meds" means two, one mood stabilizer and one anti-depressant. Maybe an anti-psychotic to help with illogical thought patterns (for example paranoia and inflated sense of self worth.)
Phil the type of dude who would take anti-depressant pills for 3 days, say "Stupid doctors, these pills are bugged, they don't even do anything!" then stop using them.
Phil has indeed had episodes of genuine, literal depression, as described in the DSM & ICID. He also created and maintains a lifestyle of uncertainty, conflict and isolation. Did he 'give himself depression?' Who the fuck knows. But could he make changes that would help him deal with depression more effectively? Uh, yeah.
A lot of people engage in self-destructive behaviors while depressed, but if Phil wants to be perceived as having had this revelation, he can't pitch a massive, abusive temper tantrum like that. This is what assholes like Phil do, they have these big, explosive revelations of sudden understanding that will make everything different in the future--- and then when the coast is clear, they move on to the next bullshit to keep attention.
Phil the type of dude who would take anti-depressant pills for 3 days, say "Stupid doctors, these pills are bugged, they don't even do anything!" then stop using them.
Its weeks before a new med's efficacy can be evaluated. I agree, no fucking way he can even envision that kind of delayed reward. Plus, side effects, and he is a toddler.
Watched White Tevin's analyzes of DSPs depression stream yesterday. First of: Theo got a little bit unfair at some point, like he sometimes tend to be. Phil strangely smiled when he talked about the depression (which is just what I expect if someone is unsure of himself or wants to express sympathy) and he thought a little bit too long when he talked about this delicate topic. Theo used that against him for some reason and therefore I really disliked this part. As robotic as Phil is, he's still human and a sorry one on top. I believe him when he states he suffers, I just don't necessarily agree with the cause.
Other than that, a good look at Phil's depression story. The comments below that video are also quite interesting, for example there was a depressed person who visited multiple docs for months and he said Phil's story has nothing to do with depression. But of course this still is subjective.
My own subjective view changed to:
He has some psychological problems which result in symptoms which resemble clinical depression which he seems to really suffer from. But this shit isn't clinical depression. It seems like a combination of social anxiety, fear of his current situation and some sort of personality disorder (alternatively he's just ignoramus).
This fear of the situation is just common with every human being in a bad situation. But he ignores it and puts it back in his head. Is this where the voices come from? Is this his consciousness which rightfully observed he fucked up and Phil tries to deny his factual errors by calling it "depression"? You got to have a real problem with your ego if you ignore your good hearted Jiminy Cricket.
However I can see where he comes from in some aspects (namely social anxiety, erm, or this specific has another name I can't remember right now) because I suffer from this shit he describes (:powerlevel; everything I say and think is wrong, people think I'm awful, everything I touch turns into poop, I'm not funny even so I know this is wrong. I learned to deal with this shit most of the time (thanks to positive experiences, a good life, people around me) but the doubts never really end. It fits exactly his narrative, right? But he describes it much worse because he could never escape his devastating loop. So I just wanna say this cuz I know it: That's no depression. It's a surprisingly common condition in this age of rivalry in the market of success.
Damnit, what was the name? At least I remember how you call it if someone uses his disabilities as an excuse: Being a dick.
In most other cases power leveling would be unnecessary but in cases of psychology sometimes you need to transport experiences or else it's sounds like asspulling. Also my self harming depression did it, yeah. This will be my new go to excuse. Jeez.
Bits & Subs come in every 45 days(after you make $100 +). Tips/Donations(whatever you want to call them) are instant, because that goes into his PayPal account. If I’m wrong someone please correct me.
Ah ok. Thank you for explaining that. I wasn't sure since I don't stream at all (I've been thinking of maybe trying to start but i'm still undecided) but that is shorter than the 3 months Phil has quoted us on the actual ad payments. He still seems like he is very instant gratification and he needs to see immediate effects or he isn't going to try
Phil the type of dude who would take anti-depressant pills for 3 days, say "Stupid doctors, these pills are bugged, they don't even do anything!" then stop using them.
Depends on how you read this, but he's either seen a therapist repeatedly two different times in his life, or he's been to a therapist twice.
Since this is the DSP subforum, I'm guessing he's been twice. There's not really much to say about that but no therapist is going to fix your life in 60 minutes.
This reads as the second the therapist started saying anything critical towards him, he bailed. If Phil can't fight back, he runs and he'd have no excuses against the therapist as they're impartial.
I think it's more of him feeling depressed more than having clinical depression. Two concepts that while they are similar are completely different things. Depression does vary from person to person and some of his behaviors such as the excessive drinking and supposed therapy visits could be a sign of that. While Phil is a complete and total cunt, that doesn't magically prevent him from getting clinical depression.
I say, yes, only to bring up a point that it is indeed possible. He's gone through a break-up, rebounded super quickly, has no friends that we know of, and is in a dead-end "job" if you can even call it that. At that point, he has to have realized he's fucked himself over and it won't be easy getting out if he ever does. At that point, how could he not be depressed? He's basically convinced himself nothing can ever change and that it's hopeless to even try. The only way he has to vent is through the very same platform that put him in this situation to begin with. He has too much of an ego to go see a therapist now (his parents probably sent him there the first time) so what's he gonna do?
However...considering how he treated this recent event I have to draw a hard, no, as my response. Phil is known to be a conman and most of all...A LIAR. It's way too damn suspicious to see him say this shit now to cover his behind. I don't blame people thinking he made this up (which I think he did). You simply can't trust anything from this guy's mouth. Unless you save a tweet or video about what he says, he'll deny everything and attempt to cover it up. I'm 90% sure he's faking it for pity bucks just like every other time. It's just too convenient he brought it up now. Even someone like him wouldn't let his ego go without saying how depressed he was years ago.
What I'm trying to say basically, if he wasn't making it up, he wouldn't have brought it up now. After all the incidents he went through in the past couple of years, he states this NOW? How is that not a bit suspicious?
; everything I say and think is wrong, people think I'm awful, everything I touch turns into poop, I'm not funny even so I know this is wrong. I learned to deal with this shit most of the time (thanks to positive experiences, a good life, people around me) but the doubts never really end. It fits exactly his narrative, right? But he describes it much worse because he could never escape his devastating loop. So I just wanna say this cuz I know it: That's no depression. It's a surprisingly common condition in this age of rivalry in the market of success.
