Careercow Mark Waid / William Mark Waid - Comics legend turned laughingstock, SJW lunatic, Dislikes Asians, Sued for Tortious Interference, King Baby, “The Strong Protect The Weak”

[AnOminous]

Looks like that Waid/Zaid's "truth as defense" case will not work under Texas law with regards to torturous interference.

It's tortious interference, that is, interference that is a tort, not torturous interference, which would be interference by torturing someone. While listening to Mark Waid screeching insanely over a phone might be torture, that's not what he's being sued over.

Something Rekieta didn't mention is that the truth defense could work against the defamation claim, although neither party probably wants to argue much about the truth of the claims themselves, because that means doing it in front of a jury at huge expense to everyone. It's a much better defense to argue that the claims were protected opinions in context of the defamation claim.

That's still an entirely different cause of action.

Waid could prevail on the defamation claim and still lose on the tortious interference claim.

The complaint cites Waid's threats to put Antarctic out of business as what caused them to cave in, as they were already aware of the defamatory claims and unmoved by them. Waid calling them and letting them know he and people acting in concert with him would ruin Antarctic utterly was what caused them to cave in.

Threats like that aren't protected, even if they are truthful. After all, the Godfather really will make sure you sleep with the fishes if you don't take the offer you can't refuse.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

It's tortious interference, that is, interference that is a tort, not torturous interference, which would be interference by torturing someone. While listening to Mark Waid screeching insanely over a phone might be torture, that's not what he's being sued over.

Thanks for pointing that out and edited my post accordingly. In regards to the bolded part, I imagine that working with Mark Waid would also be a form of torture.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I'm reading through the names of the donors and found some real winners in them like Chris Ryall, Tony Isabella, Dan Slott (who chipped in $500!), Jamal Igle among others. It really does feel like they're circling the wagons, doesn't it?

I have to wonder at the shear stupidity of any Comic Pros or industry insiders that would publicly donate in this way. Do none of them realize that doing so builds and reinforces the Pkaintiff’s case? That it puts themselves on the Plaintiffs Discovery list? “We would like to see any direct or group communications with Eric Larson or any Principle Officers of Image Comics as well as Marvel’s Dan Slot.”

I’m not saying that no Conic Pros should donate to a friend in need. But Dear Lord people. Just privately give him a check. These fools make Meyer’s Lawyers job much easier.

 

[RockVolnutt]

I have to wonder at the shear stupidity of any Comic Pros or industry insiders that would publicly donate in this way. Do none of them realize that doing so builds and reinforces the Pkaintiff’s case? That it puts themselves on the Plaintiffs Discovery list? “We would like to see any direct or group communications with Eric Larson or any Principle Officers of Image Comics as well as Marvel’s Dan Slot.”

I’m not saying that no Conic Pros should donate to a friend in need. But Dear Lord people. Just privately give him a check. These fools make Meyer’s Lawyers job much easier.

But this is the Punch A Nazi case. How can I not hitch my name on so future generations of cool hip black lesbians know I'm one of the badasses who gave them representation in the media? Are you telling me Waid won't punch them all out like Captain Austria!?

Drumpf rigged the courts.

 

[AnOminous]

But this is the Punch A Nazi case. How can I not hitch my name on so future generations of cool hip black lesbians know I'm one of the badasses who gave them representation in the media? Are you telling me Waid won't punch them all out like Captain Austria!?

Drumpf rigged the courts.

Only in SJW land could a bunch of white guys give a bunch of money to another rich white guy to stamp out the publication of a completely non-political book they don't like, and call this fighting "Nazis."

 

[damian]

Reposting here from multiple threads:

Ethan Van Sciver started a GoFundMe for YaBoi with the goal of $75K.

Livestream talking about it:

Ethan, please use a picture that doesn't look like shit.

Here's 2 options.

Or you could ask him for a good picture.

YaBoi made a 40min video explaining why he decided to sue Mark Waid. The video has been taken down since, but @neural managed to archive it (click here for video)

TLDR of the video provided by @Least Concern:

Here's a quick tl;dw of Zack's video. Important (IMO) or new stuff italicized.

• Hadn’t planned to do video, decided to do so after Ethan started IGG
• “I wanted lawsuit to go differently and they’re steering into a way I didn’t like”
• Waid lies about me being a white nationalist, doxxing comics employees
• Had to learn what AP learned over 30 years, no trial-and-error
• AP dumping happened on May 11, suit filed in late September
• Thinks if he had initiated suit earlier, maybe Simeti backlash wouldn’t have happened
• Reiterates AP guy cried on phone call, still don't blame him, he was bullied
• We didn’t get to the lawsuit right after AP event, busy moving, etc.
• Peter Simeti/Alterna’s “no block” policy controversy happens
• Waid comes back to Twitter to target Simeti, large backlash, some Alterna creators/ex-creators turn on him
• Night letters analogy
• “My friends, family, fans, the characters I create are more diverse than the lunch room at the United Nations”
• Simeti’s claim of being suicidal
• Waid & Co tried to get suicide charity to reject money
• Simeti targeting “changed how I look at all this”
• “Off-the-ranch, unhinged bully”
• Comics are a business
• People supported Simeti, but that doesn’t undo mental anguish
• “One person, at the back, directing people”
• Waid lives in Santa Monica, very expensive, but still fundraising
• Amanda & Pierce-Outlaw
• Waid’s “Come find me” if Meyer attends convention
• Meyer’s stalkers
• Doyle doxxing arrest record, lying about child support debt
• “One of things I wanted… return the idea of seriousness,” but Waid’s GFM & Zaid’s antics
• Waid’s antics “affected me, but that’s probably the smallest thing,” Semeti & others have had it worse
• “Shot across the bow,” “you can’t do this,” somebody needs to fight back
• Lawyers think Waid will settle
• Desired settlement terms: Admission of guilt, apology to AP, damages, “gentleman’s agreement to stay out of each other’s business”
• Waid has “savior complex,” protector of women/POC, but that lets him feel more powerful & attack them
• “He’s very proud of this temper and anger”
• There’s no good faith on the other side
• Delay blacklisted for not hating Zack enough
• Back-channel coordination has to stop, anti-biz, anti-customer
• Supporter of LCS, but stores have been cut out
• Told AP he will stop IGG campaign so book will only be available in stores
• Bullying only benefits Waid’s ego; doubt it’s helped him sell books
• “He does not protect the weak”
• Protected Braganza but calls me a serial harasser of women
• “I didn’t want to do a GFM” but this is a proxy war in the culture war, like Vietnam
• I don’t have support network like Waid
• 100% will go to my lawyers
• “This lawsuit didn’t need to happen,” Waid could have just stuck to verbal insults, he went too far
• Economy’s great, but comics sales down, stores closing, it should be the opposite
• I no longer think he’ll settle
• This is a serious matter, but Zaid is clowning, it’s not funny
• Starts getting salty but then his phone dies
• I’m not going to talk about it anymore until it’s over
• “We need to establish some ground rules”
• “I don’t know how long this video’s gonna be up”
• Thank you very much for supporting me & others who have been attacked

And finally, within 3 hours YaBoi and his followers managed to get half of what Waid struggled to get in 3 days:
Waid's GFM

Zack's GFM

Spoiler: My honest opinion statement

Get rekt faggot.

Zack's GFM has some interesting donors:

wow:

On EVS's livestream (linked above) EVS announced that he has the 911 call from the Mark Waid's Alter-Ego Comics chimpout! (Timestamp soon)

 

[Big moth tiddies]

Rumor has it that Waid hoped to somehow construe this as a first amendment case so that he could get access to the comic defense fund to pay his way. Seems like he wasn't able to do that. This numale pig needs to have his shit pushed in by the law instead of his female co-workers' bad dragon dildos.

 

[AnOminous]

Rumor has it that Waid hoped to somehow construe this as a first amendment case so that he could get access to the comic defense fund to pay his way. Seems like he wasn't able to do that. This numale pig needs to have his shit pushed in by the law instead of his female co-workers' bad dragon dildos.

So far as I know, the only major case where the CBLDF stepped in in a private dispute was when Starbucks sued a parodist, and it was pretty clearly a noninfringing parody.

It would be outright fraud for the CBLDF to collect money for First Amendment protection and then spend it in favor of a rich guy who trampled all over someone else's First Amendment rights to try to stamp out an indie comic, for no reason other than that he personally disliked the guy who wrote it.

 

[Big moth tiddies]

So far as I know, the only major case where the CBLDF stepped in in a private dispute was when Starbucks sued a parodist, and it was pretty clearly a noninfringing parody.

It would be outright fraud for the CBLDF to collect money for First Amendment protection and then spend it in favor of a rich guy who trampled all over someone else's First Amendment rights to try to stamp out an indie comic, for no reason other than that he personally disliked the guy who wrote it.

You are correct. Nowadays they mostly just step into a situation when a schools bans a book or some shit. However, just because something is against the law doesn't mean idiots won't try it. These "progressives" seem to think they live in a world where as long as you do what you perceive to be the right thing, the entire crowd will stop to lift them on their shoulders and have three cheers. Waid simply found out it earned him a lawsuit.

 

[Kosher Dill]

EVS announced that he has the 911 call from the Mark Waid's Alter-Ego Comics chimpout!

I really hope this culminates in an animated version, sort of like the "Rick and Morty" people did with that one court case.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Ethan, please use a picture that doesn't look like shit.

He should use the shopped version of his original picture

 

[damian]

Lauren is mad on the internet:
https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056641359078195201 https://archive.fo/NzzY6

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056716826946756608 https://archive.fo/CQeNO

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056718019701981185 https://archive.fo/0wIZp

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056725200853704707 https://archive.fo/ukHrx

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056728444053143552 https://archive.fo/rWElN

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056729092031160320 https://archive.fo/dOkNl

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056734503165722624 https://archive.fo/DIExM

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1056740719405219841 https://archive.fo/S1mlc

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1055975630041427969 https://archive.fo/rUSSH

Stay mad, cosplay hag.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

I have to ask....why's she so invested in this? The asspats and brownie points can't be THAT good, can they?

 

[Next Task]

I have to ask....why's she so invested in this?

My guess? She was already after attention, being a failed cosplayer, and this gets her asspats. She enjoys the dopamine hit of the outrage brigade that being 'on the right side of history' gives her. She probably genuinely believes that there's outrageous harassment and bigotry coming from ComicsGate, like she would about GamerGate, because that narrative can bend reality for those who want all their enemies to be evil, and while there has undoubtedly been some, blowing it completely out of proportion and claiming disagreement = harassment seems SOP nowadays.

And maybe, just maybe, there's a part of her that saw how profitable it was for people like Zoe Quinn and Brianna Wu to be a prominent female (or 'female') victim of neckbeards and speds and she decided to jump on that gravy train if she could. I think she's cynical. Don't know if she's consciously that cynical, though.

 

[Pozzingmyfilthyneghole]

I have to ask....why's she so invested in this? The asspats and brownie points can't be THAT good, can they?

She is probably just a bored housewife without friends who gets no attention at home.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

She is probably just a bored housewife without friends who gets no attention at home.

If you were her hubby would you want to stay at home with this hell hag? I'd invent every excuse possible to work late, meet friends and bang skanks on the side as I pondered what a horrible mistake I made in marrying the Rat Queen of Anti-Comicsgate.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

The cosplay hag is upset because EVS’ GFM is quickly surpassing Mark Waid’s in a short period of time. CG has the money and the numbers, they make up the majority of comic readers and buyers. Look at the poor sales of Iceman, Kim & Kim, Bordertown, etc....

Reality hurts, Lauren.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I've thinking lately and wanted to posit this theory as insight into Mark Waid's psyche: is it possible that he was verbally and/or physically abused in his youth? I recall making allusions to a troubled home life when he first saw Superman in 1978. He wrote Impulse #6 that dealt with the parental abuse of one of Bart's friends. The story implied that it that it was the father, but the twist was that it was the mother who did it. It makes me wonder if Waid was writing from experience. He does seem to be incredibly submissive to women, and need I remind you all that the Alter Ego incident happened because his then-spouse/girlfriend wanted the other co-owner out of the picture.

I just bring it up because I get the impression that said abuse can warp minds. A personal lolcow of mine also claimed to have been in an abusive household is also the biggest anti-DCEU sperg I have come across and has an unhealthy attachment to the DC Animated Universe (he never fails to mention how he convinced his parents to name his brother Clark.) The big reason why he hates the upcoming Aquaman film? Jason Mamoa is not a blond. How this relates to Mark Waid is that they have taken the escapism of the medium too far.

In the case of Waid, I think his mind is so twisted that he thinks he is Superman on some deeply visceral level. Not so much that he believes in truth, justice, and the American way, but because he is intoxicated by the idea of absolute power and how it would place him above the law and social conventions. He wants power to strike back at the people who hurt him when he was a helpless child and now wants use the power/influence inside the industry to hurt others as proxies. He used his influence to scuttle Richard Meyer's contract with Antarctic Press solely to soothe his wounded ego, which has festered over the decades. Who knows how many others Waid has hurt with his antics.

Again, this is purely speculation, but I believe worth considering.

 

[Koby_Fish]

I've thinking lately and wanted to posit this theory as insight into Mark Waid's psyche: is it possible that he was verbally and/or physically abused in his youth? I recall making allusions to a troubled home life when he first saw Superman in 1978. He wrote Impulse #6 that dealt with the parental abuse of one of Bart's friends. The story implied that it that it was the father, but the twist was that it was the mother who did it. It makes me wonder if Waid was writing from experience. He does seem to be incredibly submissive to women, and need I remind you all that the Alter Ego incident happened because his then-spouse/girlfriend wanted the other co-owner out of the picture.

I just bring it up because I get the impression that said abuse can warp minds. A personal lolcow of mine also claimed to have been in an abusive household is also the biggest anti-DCEU sperg I have come across and has an unhealthy attachment to the DC Animated Universe (he never fails to mention how he convinced his parents to name his brother Clark.) The big reason why he hates the upcoming Aquaman film? Jason Mamoa is not a blond. How this relates to Mark Waid is that they have taken the escapism of the medium too far.

In the case of Waid, I think his mind is so twisted that he thinks he is Superman on some deeply visceral level. Not so much that he believes in truth, justice, and the American way, but because he is intoxicated by the idea of absolute power and how it would place him above the law and social conventions. He wants power to strike back at the people who hurt him when he was a helpless child and now wants use the power/influence inside the industry to hurt others as proxies. He used his influence to scuttle Richard Meyer's contract with Antarctic Press solely to soothe his wounded ego, which has festered over the decades. Who knows how many others Waid has hurt with his antics.

Again, this is purely speculation, but I believe worth considering.

The thing is, on Mark Waid's Wikipedia page it makes NO mention of who his parents are (or were). There is no mention of any family at all, in any capacity or anything on his personal life. His parents could have been Democrat Trailer Trash (being he was born in Alabama) or unfathomably wealthy, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if one or the other or both were abusive in some way. Or it could just be (given Mark is more or less a redhead) a genetic predisposition to a particularly nasty temper.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

I've always figured that feelings of inferiority to the superheroes you write leading to having a hero complex were an occupational hazard of being a comic book writer. You immerse yourselves daily in the lives of people who are heroic, good-looking, usually famous, are doing meaningful things with their lives, and never grow old. Compare this to being a middle-aged single childless fat balding screaming weirdo working in a dying industry and you can see why Waid might want to pretend to be a hero; especially when you believe in a movement that tells you that most of your audience are Nazi misogynerds, making your life spent creating their entertainment that much more meaningless.