What restrictions should there be on voting

I've located a small problem. Welfare recipients effectively don't pay taxes.

FWIW, "no welfare recipients" is a restriction I can see my way clear to. If you've inverted the normal financial relationship between yourself and the state and are a beneficiary of it's charity, saying you can't vote until you get off the dole seems fair, just to make sure that Tytler's maxim ("Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government, it can only exist until the people discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public purse") doesn't happen. The decisions need to be made by people who are paying the bills, because they're paying the bills.
Define "welfare".
 
I've located a small problem. Welfare recipients effectively don't pay taxes.

FWIW, "no welfare recipients" is a restriction I can see my way clear to. If you've inverted the normal financial relationship between yourself and the state and are a beneficiary of it's charity, saying you can't vote until you get off the dole seems fair, just to make sure that Tytler's maxim ("Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government, it can only exist until the people discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public purse") doesn't happen. The decisions need to be made by people who are paying the bills, because they're paying the bills.
A lot of people who aren't on welfare don't pay much or at all in taxes either.

The core problem with saying "oh well people on welfare shouldn't vote because they'll just vote for more welfare" is by that logic voting should just be done away with period. Of course people will vote for something which directly benefits them. That's Republicanism 101 and our system was literally built on that principal over a century before welfare even existed.
 
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You are misunderstanding me. All neo-Sodomite homosexuals are evil by the very fact of their aberrosexuality. I would not want my son or daughter to partake in the acts that neo-Sodomites engage in. A lunatic might drink water from a public toilet because they do not know any better. A neo-Sodomite might drink water from a public toilet because it sexually arouses them. Normal men might go to the doctor and allow the doctor to insert his hand into their rectum to check their prostate. Homosexual men might have other men insert their arms even into their large intestine because it sexually arouses them. At least dogs tend to limit themselves to eating only their own fecal matter. Homosexuals are not as picky. From such men, it should be obvious to you that they are not limited to just committing profoundly destructive mortal sins against the Sixth Commandment.
 
You are misunderstanding me. All neo-Sodomite homosexuals are evil by the very fact of their aberrosexuality. I would not want my son or daughter to partake in the acts that neo-Sodomites engage in. A lunatic might drink water from a public toilet because they do not know any better. A neo-Sodomite might drink water from a public toilet because it sexually arouses them. Normal men might go to the doctor and allow the doctor to insert his hand into their rectum to check their prostate. Homosexual men might have other men insert their arms even into their large intestine because it sexually arouses them. At least dogs tend to limit themselves to eating only their own fecal matter. Homosexuals are not as picky. From such men, it should be obvious to you that they are not limited to just committing profoundly destructive mortal sins against the Sixth Commandment.
How go your efforts to make homosexuality punishable by death in Uganda, Pastor Ssempa?
 
You are misunderstanding me. All neo-Sodomite homosexuals are evil by the very fact of their aberrosexuality. I would not want my son or daughter to partake in the acts that neo-Sodomites engage in. A lunatic might drink water from a public toilet because they do not know any better. A neo-Sodomite might drink water from a public toilet because it sexually arouses them. Normal men might go to the doctor and allow the doctor to insert his hand into their rectum to check their prostate. Homosexual men might have other men insert their arms even into their large intestine because it sexually arouses them. At least dogs tend to limit themselves to eating only their own fecal matter. Homosexuals are not as picky. From such men, it should be obvious to you that they are not limited to just committing profoundly destructive mortal sins against the Sixth Commandment.
Extreme sexual deviancy isn't exclusive to homosexuals by any measure of the imagination, and our nation isn't a theocracy. I would unironically recommend moving to a nation that practices sharia if you're so concerned with absolute moral right being built into the legal system.
 
No one should vote and the world should instead simply do the sensible thing and make Tony Gaga emperor.
 
You are misunderstanding me. All neo-Sodomite homosexuals are evil by the very fact of their aberrosexuality. I would not want my son or daughter to partake in the acts that neo-Sodomites engage in. A lunatic might drink water from a public toilet because they do not know any better. A neo-Sodomite might drink water from a public toilet because it sexually arouses them. Normal men might go to the doctor and allow the doctor to insert his hand into their rectum to check their prostate. Homosexual men might have other men insert their arms even into their large intestine because it sexually arouses them. At least dogs tend to limit themselves to eating only their own fecal matter. Homosexuals are not as picky. From such men, it should be obvious to you that they are not limited to just committing profoundly destructive mortal sins against the Sixth Commandment.

OK... so can we come up with a restriction that prevents just this dude from voting? Take your meds crazy numbers.
 
Here is the list I'd like to see implemented though it never will be.
I fully acknowledge it's more authoritarian than I'd personally like, but the alternative is universal suffrage which historically just doesn't work IMHO.

1) 21 is the legal minimum voting age.

2) Every student must take a neutral bias civics class in school to make sure they understand how the government and governance is supposed to work.

3) Voters are required to register for voter ID, or opt out. Those that opt out cannot opt back in. Additionally there would be a use it or lose it clause, which meant that if you didn't poll a vote, then three successive rounds of abstaining from polling would result in exclusion. A ballet choice on none, would be added to all ballets.

4) Anyone considered to be either dependent on government payments or welfare would be excluded from voting, as well as anyone who had a personal debt load over 50k would be prevented from voting.

5) All current prisoners of the state would be excluded from the right to vote until they had served their sentences. Anyone incarcerated on repeat offenses would be excluded.

6) Voters must be able to show a consistent level of either employment, or if at retirement age or otherwise temporarily unemployed must be able to show a record of voluntary civic or community work.

I think you'd find by implementation of those laws you'd immediately see a huge demographic shift in terms of voting patterns, especially implementing 3 & 4.
 
I think you'd find by implementation of those laws you'd immediately see a huge demographic shift in terms of voting patterns, especially implementing 3 & 4.
Yeah, it would immediately disenfranchise most of the country, including literally anyone with a college education earned in the last fifteen years.
 
1) You must be 18

2) A national ID system that functions similarly to a driver's license, which is connected to your social. All citizens will be issued one at school, like picture day. There, everyone would register to vote, pick their political party and the like and get their ID. This will be provided free of charge, cost on the state and federal government will be split. Citizens who don't have one can get one from state places such as the post office, police station, DMV, etc. This is free of charge.

3) Elections are a paid national holiday

4) A standardized, national system of paper-only ballets. No digital voting at all.

5) All IDs will be scanned at the door, allowing for tracking of who voted and when. There will be no such thing as voter rolls anymore, since the national IDs will be checked against the social security database. No more needless purging of non-felons and no more dead people voting. Voting will still be secret, because this only records if you voted and when, not who you voted for.

6) On your ID, your district will be listed along with a web address of where to find your polling place. This could also be implemented via QR code.

7) This could be expanded to having your voter ID tied to a unique app on your phone, so if you lose your ID, you can still vote. Only specific election hardware would be able to read the generated code, so you don't even need your ID if you forget it. The app could also send you reminders of local/national/federal elections.

All in all, these are very simple solutions to secure elections. They'll never be done, however, because nobody in power wants voting to be easy.
 
Anyone with legitimate threats to democracy, such as (((them))).
 
NEETs don't get to vote. Incels don't get to vote. People with gender studies degrees don't get to vote. People with more than 3 identity descriptors in their Twitter profile don't get to vote.
 
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