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Unless they plan something similar with the X-Men by having Galactus be the next big bad. However, it’s going to be really hard for them to follow up on the Avengers.
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To be honest i don't see how much bigger the stakes can be made in the superhero genre.When your villain already has universal ambitions of destruction/domination its already kind of hard for an audience to connect.Thanos already wiped out half of all living things in Infinity war.That's probably the reason why the genre if it wants to still make money will have to go for lower stakes more individual stories like Logan less about saving the world/city/country from a villain with unclear 'reasons' for doing that.If you've seen one supervillain that wants to conquer the universe you've seen them all.
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I could be wrong, but to do Galactus they would atleast need to first nail a good Fantastic 4 movie and from there work in the X-men and Galactus making his appearance.
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Has Bob responded to the allegations of tons of near-empty showings for Captain Marvel? Given his three greatest hobbies in life are tweeting, pretending he knows about the comics/film industry, and being woke, I kinda figured he would've at least given some sort of weak excuse about cherrypicking or russian bots or something.
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CONSPIRACY THEORY will be his go-to sneer here.
Personally I don't know if it's true. The MCU has enormous goodwill built up with the normie crowd, and I doubt these autistic pissing contests online are going to affect the numbers one way or the other. We won't really know how successful it is until the long term numbers come out.
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"Classic Miles, Spider-Gwen, Ham, Noir, Peni, etc. stories"? What?
Miles and Spider-Ham maybe but Spider-Gwen doesn't have any "classic" stories at this point, Noir has like 2 self contained mini-series that he originated from and aren't really kid material, and Peni literally had never had a series and exists solely as a cameo in crossovers.
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In terms of Marvel cosmology, about the only thing I can think of stronger than IG Thanos is the Living Tribunal, who isn't a villain and can't be plausibly fought. Galactus or Beyonder might work, though, since they both can't have their powers taken away by stealing their magic widget.
EDIT: But has Bob ever displayed any in-depth knowledge of any comics canon? I can't think of any time I've seen him nail something that makes me sit up and take notice.
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I was curious about what he was responding to. It was this.
Bob isn't completely wrong, but none of what he describes is the fault of the fanbase and is 100% the fault of the comics companies.
All comics companies had to do was put out comics with the likenesses of the movie cast and have them do super hero stuff. But instead the kids (and adults) that couldn't get enough of these characters walked into the comics shop with the marvel poster in the window and found that Iron Man was now a black teenage sociopath, Thor was a female radical feminist, and Captain America was working for Nazi Trump.
I know it's fun to play armchair analyst and say "If X did this and Y did that and Z did the other thing then it would have all worked." but it's bullshit and he knows it. At the end of the day people want stuff, preferably high quality, cheap, and convenient. To steal a quote from lolcow Jim Sterling, they fucked up the un-fuck-up-able.
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Here's Bob, showing his appreciation for women on International Women's Day:
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That tweet is worth tracking down. The replies are fuckin' savage.
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Not really. He mostly treats them as obscure like a bible in the dark ages where you need a priest to read them for you. There's a handful of times where he gets outright wrong information like not knowing the X-Men was just reprints during the late 60s, describing Onslaught as a "winged monster", or that time he was surprised Silk exists despite white-knighting the newer characters previously.
We assume he's just reading off wikipedia articles or something. Most of his personal opinions are just standard contrarianism, doing a "Marvel does nothing wrong" act whenever it is brought up to him, continues to not realize Marvel Studios is a separate company from Marvel Entertainment when he does "they don't need comics anymore", and I'm pretty sure he joined Nash before in complaining about the concept of continuity.
He's just a MCU fanboy who thinks Riri Williams movies are totally happening and will make 400 gazillion dollars. Comics themselves matter little outside "testing the waters" for some reason......to an audience he already feels is full of irrelevant bigots while he already made his conclusion.
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Couldn't the movie/comic adaption easily be resolved by rereleasing certain stories and arcs which had a large amount of inspiration on the films? Using Bob's favourite film for example, rerelease books like The Dark Knight Rises, The Death of Superman, and What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, & the American Way? and slap a "Inspiration for Batman v. Superman" label on it.
Obviously, this isn't a one-size fits all approach for every movie (Movies based on original stories such as Into the Spiderverse may have trouble finding a good selection of books), but it feels like a much better solution than putting a new reader into the middle of a story that's 90% characters and ideas they won't recognize.
Obviously, this isn't a one-size fits all approach for every movie (Movies based on original stories such as Into the Spiderverse may have trouble finding a good selection of books), but it feels like a much better solution than putting a new reader into the middle of a story that's 90% characters and ideas they won't recognize.
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Kinda already done but they don't advertise them to the mainstream much and comics has this weird stigma on it even if adaptations do well. Namely you have people who circle them but only to complain about them being "too confusing" and asking for reboots.....to fix the problem of "too many reboots", even if they aren't describing a reboot, that make it confusing to them in the first place. They'll throw up their hands in frustration if you answer their "Why can't I just read from Superman #1 and get it over with in a weekend". Community and sharing stories is part of the comic hobby.
I'm not necessarily saying "no one will ever be satisfied" but it's one of those problems that everyone likes to pretend is simple but has multiple layers to it.
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A podcast did a review of his Mario Bros 3 book.
Terrible Book Club – Episode 52 - Super Mario Bros. 3: Brick by Brick by Bob Chipman *Patron's Choice* – 1:14:16
Our Patron Lynn chose this book as their once-per-year reward! Check out our Patreon here to get this and other rewards for yourself. No substantial Content Warnings this week - brief mentions of death and terrorist attacks/shootings, and discussion of an infamous scene from the movie Blue...
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I think would work. You don't even need to re-release, just ads in store windows would be fine.
As someone who has made that argument a number of times (including here), I find most answers revolve around the difference between what casuals want, what comics fans want, and what makes money.
Comic companies want to sell books and multiple cross overs and tie ins = $$$$$. Casuals just want to pick up the Batman book occasionally and read about him punching the Joker/Two Face/Poison Ivy etc. Fans want their in depth knowledge of lore and continuity to be rewarded and they want stories different from the usual "Batman punches the Joker" stories.
There is no easy way out of this and yet there is an easy way out of this.
I'm no expert on comics so someone can correct me, but my understanding Marvel Ultimate was a book series that was a reboot of the universe where dead characters stayed dead continuity was limited to other Ultimate books. That format without the crossovers would be perfect for the casual reader. But like you said comics companies are bad at advertising to the normies. Even if they got the normies on board I don't trust the comics companies to keep their shit together as they would start with cross over events, variant covers, politics, retcons and all the other bullshit stinking up comics.
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I just listened to it and it was good albeit the Gamergate part of the podcast was bad with a few good points, but the hosts admit they are misinformed.A podcast did a review of his Mario Bros 3 book.
Terrible Book Club – Episode 52 - Super Mario Bros. 3: Brick by Brick by Bob Chipman *Patron's Choice* – 1:14:16
Our Patron Lynn chose this book as their once-per-year reward! Check out our Patreon here to get this and other rewards for yourself. No substantial Content Warnings this week - brief mentions of death and terrorist attacks/shootings, and discussion of an infamous scene from the movie Blue...radiopublic.com
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Honestly, I don’t think the gamer gate bit was that bad. Way too many people on both sides have wrong information from that shitshow, and she repeated the mainstream media version. Understandable when you weren’t living the drama 24/7
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You are pretty much correct on the ultimate Universe, though people did have an issue how they approached the character death stuff as some was pretty cheap while other was written in a bad way. Also, I could be wrong but I think it was the ultimate universe which had Captain America going "DOES THE A ON MY FOREHEAD STAND FOR FRANCE?!"
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You're right, except the Ultimate line was garbage. It was basically them cannibalizing their old, good stories, except as re-imagined by a 3edgy5u 11-year-old. With SEX! and GORE! and BLACKJACK! (OK, forget the blackjack.) However good the idea may have been, these companies absolutely refuse to leave their comfort zone when it comes to the stories they'll tell, especially when it's so easy to crib off Stan Lee and Chris Claremont instead of actually writing something new. (Though part of the trouble is that the mythos is part of so many of the titles- are the X-Men still the X-Men if they don't really have any of the same stories as the X-Men we all know and love? Marvel doesn't think so.)
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