Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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So its fucking nothing then?
Other shooters my ass

That remains to be seen. It's less than 24 hours since it happened. I'm guessing that's a holding charge - although why NZ isn't using their counter-terrorism powers to hold them is another question.

Hmmm... who is Daniel John Burrough then? :-)

Indeed. And is he a newcomer to the life of Brenton Tarrant?

I remain curious about Tarrant's statement that he went to NZ to "train". Train with whom?
 
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Okay, having slept on it, and having viewed the video a few more times without having to stop it and walk away between breaks, I can honestly say that my opinion hasn't really changed. I have also read the so-called "Manifesto" that this fool wrote, and can say that it's no different from many of the other "manifesto's" written by similar attention seeking murderers.
A post I read summed up the act quite nicely - an internet killing for the internet age - he streamed it live, he mentioned a popular gaming Youtuber at the beginning of the video, and he was obviously frequent on the internet in social forums and Twitter/Facebook.

What makes this any different from other attacks of this nature? I guess the fact that it was streamed live and so many people have jumped on it (just as the murderer wanted). I am not saying that this kind of thing has not been done before either, it has - so what has he achieved really apart from the murder of innocent people, and to land himself a good number of years inside bars.

Sadly, the families of those innocent people have a life sentence - this fucker will eventually be let out of prison, regardless of what he has done..
I just managed to watch the WHOLE video as deaf person, no sounds for me (obviously) but one thing that struck me the most is how he basically was stone-cold calm throughout the whole thing, even picking off people by one by one who was moving. I don't even know what to say man; just whole thing is kinda fucked convoluted mess because when there was mass shooting, there was always only one angle of footage or people running then drop dead in front of security camera- those type of things.

But THIS is from first person point of the view throughout the whole thing and it hits you hard on what it actually takes to go through with it.
I guess what struck me about it and what differentiated it from a lot of other attacks like this include:
  • he was at least partially successful in his stated goals from the manifesto
  • he had a degree of knowledge and skill with firearms
  • the meme nature of a lot of the things he did and said
  • the video-game like quality of the footage from when he enters the mosque to when he exits it the first time
  • his lack of apparent mental and physical issues other than the being an extremest willing to kill civilians kind

I know he’s not right in the head, but wouldn’t joining the US Army and getting deployed to Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc (places where ISIS actually operates) be a better choice? Then again with people like him it’s impossible to apply logic to their thinking.
You fundamentally misunderstand the position of most nationalists ranging from simple isolationists to full on nazis. They don't care about people doing whatever they want in the middle east. They care about what is happening at home. ISIS could kill all of Syria and it wouldn't matter as much to this guy as one raped Kiwi girl.
 
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It seems like his statement that he'd been preparing for this for two years may have been truthful.

I just read a new report stating that a gunman shouted "F** Muslims we're going to kill you today" before opening fire into the Mosque. I never heard any of that on the video I've seen.

Source?
 
Really, it's just what we make it. He shot up a building full of people, and then decided to implicate his entire community in those murders; I'd say he is a loser, and judging by his manifesto, he might have accomplices that share his views, but this man is clearly lonely as fuck, and has loaded all those frustrations into a white identity, that when threatened, he decided to "protect" - qoutation marks not because the people he shot were the explicit invaders , but because he wanted to be the protector in OUR eyes, we being his community.
Secondly, yeah his views are coherent, but why haven't none of us shot up a mosque? Because we're not clinically dense, and because it's a place of worship filled with random people. Why does he do it? Because he supports the same cause as us, but not because of reasoning and logic so to speak, but because of emotions.
I don't think his behavior is that of some warrior/savior/protector-type mentality, there's definitely personal motivation behind, because he wanted to be percieved a certain way in his community. Honestly, what the fuck does this help? Did he not have the balls to try and find someone more radical, maybe like a gang of middle easterners? No, he goes for the real easy kills, does it on a random Friday so that it's filled with ordinary people, and children and women, instead of doing it literally any other time, where it might be mostly men, and spews so many memes, you could write a book; that's definitely pick-me-ass behavior.

Boomer posting, on MY Kiwifarms?
This might be my own pet peeve, but its these kind of posts that rub me the wrong way. I like to analyse key incidents and/or people like this man with a scalpel, to really figure out the cogs that were turning. Posts like the quoted above dont do much besides introduce speculations of ultimately little value.
 
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It seems like his statement that he'd been preparing for this for two years may have been truthful.



Source?
So, if he was legally stockpiling weapons for ages and was very patient, why do they think that another shooter won't be patient enough to go through waiting periods and then shoot some place up? Only thing I can think of is they're going full ban on certain types of firearms.
 
Boomer posting, on MY Kiwifarms?
This might be my own pet peeve, but its these kind of posts that rub me the wrong way. I like to analyse key incidents and/or people like this man with a scalpel, to really figure out the cogs that were turning. Posts like the quoted above dont do much besides introduce speculations of ultimately little value.

A&H isn't really suited to the deep analysis of anything, but I agree this thread in particular has been deluged by a flood of stuff which doesn't further our knowledge of the facts in any way.
 
Boomer posting, on MY Kiwifarms?
This might be my own pet peeve, but its these kind of posts that rub me the wrong way. I like to analyse key incidents and/or people like this man with a scalpel, to really figure out the cogs that were turning. Posts like the quoted above dont do much besides introduce speculations of ultimately little value.
I get your point, although I'd disagree and say I was trying to raise an actual argument, based on my own analysations I suppose.

My point is, we ALL know, or well I do and I assume he did as well, that Friday is prayer day for muslims; now, it's also pretty obvious, that just like Sunday church or whatever in the US, that more people attend mosques on Fridays than other days; I'm confused as to why he chose the day with the most arguably innocent citizens? He could've waited for a day where they held a conference with local imams and such, it would've been filled up with men and important local islamist figures. He also doesn't at any point in time check the doors in the mosque, and he's clearly upset after one guy tries to knock him down, and he only approaches the shot-out crowd after he sprayed it a decent amount of times, and had run out of the building a few times.
Furthermore, putting the navy seals copy pasta in his manifesto, literally just spewing memes and what is arguably bullshit from a man with identity-crisis, page upon page, and goes out of his way to implicate us all in it.
To me, it does seem like he wanted to be a hero, but was a real coward.
 
Read most and only the important parts of the thread but not all of it because it's moving really fast. What's the reason behind the influx of people specifically to this forum? Is it because it got mentioned by some important news outlet or because it's called "Kiwi"farms or what?

Acting like 8chan is some dark, impenetrable place that only the most foul can get to is probably one of the funniest things I've seen in ages. To dipshit journos watching this thread, type 8chdotnet into your browser and click a board. It's that easy.

I don't know in how many countries is 8chan currently blocked, but in mine it's obscured by the government. I have to manually change stuff from the settings of my connection to get in.
 
I just read a new report stating that a gunman shouted "F** Muslims we're going to kill you today" before opening fire into the Mosque. I never heard any of that on the video I've seen.
Trying to make a comparison to the Allahu Snackbars shouting before Muslims of peace drove trucks through crowds Christmas shopping, or stabbed a bunch of people with knives, or shot up a magazine and grocery store.

Ya know, just trying to lie and equate anti-Islam supporters to this dude.
 
Read most and only the important parts of the thread but not all of it because it's moving really fast. What's the reason behind the influx of people specifically to this forum? Is it because it got mentioned by some important news outlet or because it's called "Kiwi"farms or what?



I don't know in how many countries is 8chan currently blocked, but in mine it's obscured by the government. I have to manually change stuff from the settings of my connection to get in.
There are definitely people who are just creating accounts to troll on this, probably idiots who blame everything on kiwi farms, but it is kind of a big event too.

Wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if kiwi farms became the goto site for discussing current events. What a stupid, stupid world.
 
Read most and only the important parts of the thread but not all of it because it's moving really fast. What's the reason behind the influx of people specifically to this forum? Is it because it got mentioned by some important news outlet or because it's called "Kiwi"farms or what?

I don't know in how many countries is 8chan currently blocked, but in mine it's obscured by the government. I have to manually change stuff from the settings of my connection to get in.
We're one of the only places with the video that's easy to access. Reddit nuked it, and 8chan isn't on google search results. A lot of the accounts are /pol/tards, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some journalists in there. They're very obvious. American and UK journos have no excuse for not directly going to the site, I'm pretty sure it's accessible in both.
 
Begone, CNN.
lol, damn, I wish I were CNN. I'm just a member of documenting reality that got redirected to this site for the video. I guess I'm no longer tech savy or one of the kids, cause I'm blanking on a lot of this site's references. Like WTF does "non-violent autistic shitposting forum" mean?? Are all of you autistic?? I'm so confused in my old age!!
 
lol, damn, I wish I were CNN. I'm just a member of documenting reality that got redirected to this site for the video. I guess I'm no longer tech savy or one of the kids, cause I'm blanking on a lot of this site's references. Like WTF does "non-violent autistic shitposting forum" mean?? Are all of you autistic?? I'm so confused in my old age!!
boomers get out
 
Read most and only the important parts of the thread but not all of it because it's moving really fast. What's the reason behind the influx of people specifically to this forum? Is it because it got mentioned by some important news outlet or because it's called "Kiwi"farms or what?
It's because since the video footage was getting taken down everywhere, Kiwifarms was the only place still that had a torrent link and @Null refused to take it down since he actually had a spine.
 
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