Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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I fully agree, the problem is more in the hands of the migrants we keep bringing in especially when they are low IQ and low skilled. (Not just the U.S.) which seems purposely done to try to cause a conflict, or culture war. Those who aren't regulated to low skill, low IQ could easily adapt when new job markets open but those who aren't will basically be a hinderance and probably cause issues, especially from migration sections.
One thing I will say is that while the EU has a migrant issue, the US really doesn't. Illegal immigration has slowed way down and ICE is deporting record numbers of illegals. The illegal immigration issue in the US has been overblown, to the point that I'm not sure why Trump made it his key point. Even under Obama ICE kept all 50,000 of their deportation beds full 100% of the time. The major things that would help prevent illegal immigration would be, ironically, legalizing recreational drugs of all types and helping prop up security forces in Mexico and Central America. For a long time the US has had either a parental attitude towards Latin American nations or outright hostility. Realistically, we need to simultaneously respect their sovereignty while also working with them to solve complex, multipolar issues that affect both areas. In order to deal with issues originating in Latin America we should, you know, actually interact with them.
 
If you haven't seen this before, go thru it. It's very eyeopening if it isn't a larp, comes from a guy who was lobbyist for a cosmetic company.

TLDR: Multinational corps benefit most from a one world government.

That makes more sense, since corporations are basically the drivers of political policy at this point. And corporations in terms of strategy are just about exploiting markets for maximum gain, like a faceless AI that only has one goal in mind. And since we live in a global economy, the only way to go institute growth is to change the structure of the consumer economy itself.
 
The moderators of the now banned subreddit /r/WatchPeopleDie are doing an AMA:

So someone is already appearing in court for having shared the video?

 
One thing I will say is that while the EU has a migrant issue, the US really doesn't. Illegal immigration has slowed way down and ICE is deporting record numbers of illegals. The illegal immigration issue in the US has been overblown, to the point that I'm not sure why Trump made it his key point. Even under Obama ICE kept all 50,000 of their deportation beds full 100% of the time. The major things that would help prevent illegal immigration would be, ironically, legalizing recreational drugs of all types and helping prop up security forces in Mexico and Central America. For a long time the US has had either a parental attitude towards Latin American nations or outright hostility. Realistically, we need to simultaneously respect their sovereignty while also working with them to solve complex, multipolar issues that affect both areas. In order to deal with issues originating in Latin America we should, you know, actually interact with them.
The bigger problem is that legal immigration is just as bad, and leading to the same outcome. We are importing people who do not share the same values overall, and their children are being taught by nut jobs who make them hate America, aside from that difference in values and thus we are importing a similar problem whether it's legal or illegal by nature. That's the big illusion people keep hitting the wall on is that it's not just illegal migrants causing demographic changes that are not all for the better in the long run.
 
So some people have been digging around and there are now links to an old article circulating about the goings on in the totally peaceful, integrated Muslims.
Turns out, shockingly, that this mosque, like every other mosque in the west and most mosques on the planet, was hosting violent Islamist preachers and some stupid white boys that converted (one of which converted and was radicalized at the mosque that was attacked) got blown up by drones on their terrorism adventures abroad.

Just the relevant part of the article:

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Might be late in saying this, but that article is still up on the website, but always flashes up a 404 error message. None of their other article from 2014 have that issue. You can find it, click on it, and "oops, we screwed up, can't find the article". It's only because of the archive that we can read it. When combined with that bullshit email they have been sending around to several websites trying to elicit info, blocking access to websites for their citizens, and this article suddenly "doesn't exist", a ? is in order.
 
Might be late in saying this, but that article is still up on the website, but always flashes up a 404 error message. None of their other article from 2014 have that issue. You can find it, click on it, and "oops, we screwed up, can't find the article". It's only because of the archive that we can read it. When combined with that bullshit email they have been sending around to several websites trying to elicit info, blocking access to websites for their citizens, and this article suddenly "doesn't exist", a ? is in order.
Just a coincidence, don't think about it. Are you getting sleepy too? I am getting really sleepy, let's just go to bed forever.
 
The bigger problem is that legal immigration is just as bad, and leading to the same outcome. We are importing people who do not share the same values overall, and their children are being taught by nut jobs who make them hate America, aside from that difference in values and thus we are importing a similar problem whether it's legal or illegal by nature. That's the big illusion people keep hitting the wall on is that it's not just illegal migrants causing demographic changes that are not all for the better in the long run.
This is the last post I will make on the subject, but it is stupid hard to immigrate to the US legally. Basically you need to invest $1m cash into the US economy, create at least 50 full time jobs directly, be a doctor or some shit, marry an American, or last, come here on an H-1B visa, which there are very few of. Immigration into America is stupid hard and numbers are very low. It's literally a non issue. If you don't believe you can go look up the waiting list for H1-Bs.

Note: most H-1Bs expire like student visas, meaning you go back when it runs up, you get fired, quit, or the company goes under. H1-Bs are also non-transferable, meaning that they are for specific jobs. You can't even get the exact same job at a different company.
 
This is the last post I will make on the subject, but it is stupid hard to immigrate to the US legally. Basically you need to invest $1m cash into the US economy, create at least 50 full time jobs directly, be a doctor or some shit, marry an American, or last, come here on an H-1B visa, which there are very few of. Immigration into America is stupid hard and numbers are very low. It's literally a non issue. If you don't believe you can go look up the waiting list for H1-Bs.

Note: most H-1Bs expire like student visas, meaning you go back when it runs up, you get fired, quit, or the company goes under. H1-Bs are also non-transferable, meaning that they are for specific jobs. You can't even get the exact same job at a different company.
I agree, but the problem still remains many legal immigrants are on welfare for generations. They have an average of 5-7 children who do not share the same values and also go on welfare. On average vote D, vote for welfare/entitlements which causes the affordable costs of living to sky rocket in many states (my own included), and then when those states fall into ruin they move to the next state and repeat the process on average.

On average they also vote, against the 2A, and against free speech. (IE: For hate speech laws by a majority vote within those specific immigrant groups).

It's not just the immigrants themselves (legal or illegal) it's also their large number of children who are causing issues via demographics, and their voting habits which are a huge issue, and considering many of them have been having children, and grand children voting in the same way and their numbers are rising while Whites are having less than replacement level births (who vote on average for the 2A, and for free speech, and against entitlements, and against higher taxes) well the issue can be seen.

If this issue that I mention didn't exist, I would be for as much immigration (legally) as possible, and the other issue is, the whole "anchor baby" issue has already been set for generations. We're already being flooded by the children of illegals who want open borders such as in the prospects of reducing hardships for people like their parents, and facing racial blocsk amongst their groups.

Just thought I'd clarify my position on why it's an issue.
 
Brenton wants to represent himself at his trial, and fired his lawyer in hopes of making it happen:
I'm actually very interested in what he'll have to say if he's allowed to represent himself. Will it be cringy meme shit for the purpose of more accelerationism and gaming the media, or will he actually drop the irreverent attitude found in parts of his manifesto and articulate the (real) issues he shot these people over?
 
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The guy who rushed him:

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/worl...m-rashid-who-was-shot-in-christchurch-attacks

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan recognises 'martyred' Mian Naeem Rashid who was shot in Christchurch attacks

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Pakistan has bestowed a national award on one of the victims of last week's mosque attack in Christchurch who died trying to confront the accused gunman.
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Mian Naeem Rashid and his son Talha were among nine Pakistanis killed when a gunman attacked two mosques in Christchurch on Friday, the foreign ministry confirmed on Sunday.
Fifty people from countries including Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Egypt and Jordan were killed in the attack. Australian Brenton Tarrant, 28, was charged with murder on Saturday.
Prime Minister Imran Khan said in a statement that Pakistan was proud of Mian Naeem Rashid, who was martyred trying to tackle the attacker, and his courage would be recognised with a national award.
Mr Rashid reportedly confronted the gunman outside the Al Noor mosque before he was killed along with his son.
The Pakistan government pledged support for families of all the Pakistani victims and Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi announced a national day of mourning with flags flown at half mast on Monday.
"The whole nation mourns this shock," he told reporters in Islamabad.
Pakistan's newly appointed Prime Minister Imran Khan (C) addresses lawmakers after being elected by National Assembly in Islamabad

Imran Khan. Photo: AFP
For Pakistan, which has suffered thousands of deaths from extremist violence over the years while facing accusations of allowing militant Islamist groups to operate from its soil, the attack showed that terrorism knows no religion or boundaries.
The foreign ministry said in a statement that the "mindless killing spree" once again proved that terrorism knows no religion or boundaries.
"This affirms Pakistan's narrative that terrorism is an international phenomenon, having no religion and should not be associated with any religion," the statement said.
Relatives of Mr Rashid mourned his death in the northern city of Abbottabad on Sunday and Safi Rizwan, a nephew, said his uncle had left a message for everyone.
"If you see something happening that is not good for other humans, or if that is hurting other people, you give your everything to save them, even it means giving your life."
- Reuters
 
I'm frankly shocked that pewdiepie did this the day after the statement he released.
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Brenton wants to represent himself at his trial, and fired his lawyer in hopes of making it happen:
I'm actually very interested in what he'll have to say if he's allowed to represent himself. Will it be cringy meme shit for the purpose of more accelerationism and gaming the media, or will he actually drop the irreverent attitude found in parts of his manifesto and articulate the (real) issues he shot these people over?
Now, I have not been keeping up with this 144 page thread, but bear with me because something just occurred to me.

This guy went in and shot up a mosque full of innocent people, probably fully knowing that none of these people were radicalized jihadists or terrorists of an otherwise nature.

At this point, you might be tempted to say he didn't actually care, but what if one of his aims was to attack innocent Muslims on purpose to serve himself up to the Islamist world as a definitive example of a kafir to spur moderate Muslims into radicalizing?


He wants retaliation. He's trying to force the hand of Muslim extremists to attack New Zealand/ Europe. Just my opinion
 
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I agree, but the problem still remains many legal immigrants are on welfare for generations. They have an average of 5-7 children who do not share the same values and also go on welfare. On average vote D, vote for welfare/entitlements which causes the affordable costs of living to sky rocket in many states (my own included), and then when those states fall into ruin they move to the next state and repeat the process on average.

On average they also vote, against the 2A, and against free speech. (IE: For hate speech laws by a majority vote within those specific immigrant groups).

It's not just the immigrants themselves (legal or illegal) it's also their large number of children who are causing issues via demographics, and their voting habits which are a huge issue, and considering many of them have been having children, and grand children voting in the same way and their numbers are rising while Whites are having less than replacement level births (who vote on average for the 2A, and for free speech, and against entitlements, and against higher taxes) well the issue can be seen.

If this issue that I mention didn't exist, I would be for as much immigration (legally) as possible, and the other issue is, the whole "anchor baby" issue has already been set for generations. We're already being flooded by the children of illegals who want open borders such as in the prospects of reducing hardships for people like their parents, and facing racial blocsk amongst their groups.

Just thought I'd clarify my position on why it's an issue.
I saw this thingy on the internet that told a tale of woe of a poor Muslim Couple bitching about not getting the house of their dreams in the U.K. because the government couldn't find a house big enough for them and their 13 children..Imagine that..
 
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