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[5t3n0g0ph3r]

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Do you want to know something?
Kanzenshuu has a rule that no one can change their username.
They made an exception for "Julie" because their username referenced their "dead name."

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

This is what would happen:

Toei tells Youtube 'Teamfourstar is stealing our property on these 200 videos'.

Youtube takes those videos down and suspends the channel from strikes.

TFS disputes this with fair use.

Toei denies the dispute immediately (Funimation isn't there to tell them to stop), because Youtube's fair use dispute system is stupid.

TFS loses their youtube channel.

TFS lacks the funds to even try to sue Toei about this, and so they have no recourse but to try to find an alternative platform for their videos, which has never worked out for them so far, and hope Toei doesn't come after them with CND letters there.

It doesn't matter that the law backs TFS up, Youtube won't, and the team doesn't have the funds to make the law do it.

except that would be blatant leak of contract with TFS and while suing Toei would be hard (not that that's how'd that'd even go down, i'll get to it in a minute) they could very easily sue youtube for breach of contract because they suspended their channel for no good reason. why would this apply? fun fact, terms of service are in fact contracts. while many do include a "we can ban you for any reason" clause, it does not cover or let them lie about the reason and that will lead to a very entertaining lawsuit. true, TFS could be soyboys and let it go, but it is their livlihood and baby. I doubt they will. then theres the fact that fanboys will just tweet, mail, and email TFS clips to Toei to piss them the fuck off.

on the other hand, that's not how youtube works. you get a strike, you dispute it, they can reject it, then you can say "if you think i'm wrong about fair use, then sue me", and then Toei either has to or admit its wrong. so far? not a single japanese company has been bold enough to even think about firing that gun. further, nowadays all strikes from a single company count as one strike until fully resolved. only when 3 are resolved and found simple, then yeah.

This isn't considering the fact that technically, they could just decide to nuke the vids, being simply posting vids directing people to their site, then putting other, non-DBZ content just to tell Toei to suck a bag of dicks.

This would be terrible. We'd go back to the dark ages of anime not bothering to get releases here, bad dubs, and a ton of innocent VAs - Vic included - being out of a job. At most Funimation is going down, I'd think. Maybe Crunchyroll too. However, I anticipate Funimation will settle.

Incidentally, Funimation settling is the ideal for TFS. It won't drag them down, it will open opportunities for them where other VAs will be vacating spots, and it will make things overall a less hostile working environment dealing with Funi.

not really. with the internet and subbing culture, getting subs would be so easy for studios, it's honestly probably better they do this anyway. if what some people say about the US's share of profits is true, probably would make them more money to cut the dub weebs off the fat.

 

[quickthrowaway]

Do you want to know something?
Kanzenshuu has a rule that no one can change their username.
They made an exception for "Julie" because their username referenced their "dead name."

Yeah, I noticed. Despite being seen as a creep about a year ago, coming out as a tranny means they have to be listened to.



Sure looks transphobic with the name change.

 

[UY 690]

Thank Retard God somebody saves this Twitter URL from Terez. The more people expose themselves? The more likely Vic can legally sue them one by one. Better watch out kids.

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

(...) Mostly unrelated, but I hate that GS got the flag of 'if you hate this you must be a SJW'. It's a crappy le edge anime that only has violence, sex, and shock value going for it, and if you like it anyway that's good for you, but you're not SJW if you think it's a dumpster fire of an anime. Rising of the Shield Hero is the anime to point to for that. It's actually really well made, compelling and interesting, and "waaah it has false rape accusations and slavery!" nonsense completely ignores the fact that those subjects get used for titillation or humor in anime all the time and yet no one blinks (See: Konosuba, where the MC is constantly pressured into things by the threat of girls calling him a rapist otherwise, but it's played off as a joke). Comparatively, Shield Hero actually treats those subjects seriously, but virtue signalling dummies choose it to attack instead. (...)

Uhm, no.

Goblin Slayer was attacked by Cordyceps brain stemmed-SJWs because of the fact that the source material has to deal with Dark High Fantasy with a setting that has people come to understand why monsters such as the lowly goblins of typical jRPG/wRPG setting are actually despicable filth that breed by raping, impregnating and killing human women while massacring humans in general for domination and pleasure, and why a hero adventurer simply referred to as the titular "Goblin Slayer" would commit himself to a career of hunting and slaying only goblins.


They didn't read the source material (in which you could read the thought bubbles of the titular creatures) and attacked for being sexist and misogynistic because of the brutal and graphic depictions of said content (which on the aired anime is NOTHING compared to that actual LN content), because of the stylistic choice of showing and not telling the setting during EP1.


People getting sick of this shit simply defaulted to anyone complaining about this "edginess" correctly having not researched the source material, and this carried over to Tate No Yuusha no Nariagari (The Rising of the Shield Hero) -- except that it didn't work then either, because the LN author Aneko Yusagi is female and wrote the story exactly for the themes of exploring how a hero in a Isekai story would deal with being made into a martyr and punching bag due to false allegations.

You're trying to compare an apple (Ecchi Comedy Isekai Anime) to a durian (Dark High Fantasy Isekai Anime), there is no real comparisons to be made between the two, except to the immature, uninitiated and uninformed masses who don't look past the MAL entry descriptions and the screaming heads of Cuck-Soylent-FunkoPop anime bloggers.

They actually attack all of these anime equally, because they fucking hate all of the following:

1. Tits
2. Ass
3. Fun
4. Non SJW-compliant talking points any episode could be mined for OOC
5. Fun
6. Interesting Topics/Subjects/Ideas that r/woosh over an SJW's sensibilities.
7. Anything "problematic" that they can throw at the wall to make stick to win an ideological argument.
8. Fun

Both animes (Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer) take the source material seriously because they're "serious" anime;

Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! (KonoSuba: God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! ) is not a "serious" anime, it's a dysfunctional comedy -- OF COURSE IT'S PLAYED OFF AS A JOKE, IT'S FANSERVICE AT 110%!

I don't know how you're firing this wide from the hip, but reel it back a couple of notches.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I never understand that attitude. That early career stuff means you paid your dues. Yeah you laugh about it when you hit the big leagues, but you don’t disavow or bury it like it was gay tranny porn. It humanizes the actor. “We’ve all had some shit jobs. Or did some weird shit to make rent when we were starting out.” Type of thing.

Like his castmates, Cranston made "fuck you" money doing Malcolm in the Middle. He made so much "fuck you" money off that show and it's subsequent syndication deal, that he was able to reject every offer made to him after MITM (which basically had him playing variations of his dad character from that show) until he was offered the lead in Breaking Bad, which he took.

Because of this, Cranston is part of a large circle of actors who basically have enough money that they can take a "holier than thou" attitude on their earlier, starving actor work. Which is also ironic, as Cranston fancied himself a would-be "serious actor" prior to landing his role on MITM and opted to live off his residuals than continue to do comedy, until he got his dream gig on Breaking Bad, to let him finally be a "dramatic actor" and not the latest incarnation of the cliched "dumb submissive husband who's wife runs the family with an iron fist".

 

[TheClappening]

Thank exceptional individual God somebody saves this Twitter URL from Terez. The more people expose themselves? The more likely Vic can legally sue them one by one. Better watch out kids.

He has dozens of accusers ... It's impossible that all of them are lying

And here Ty Beard is, seriously investigating the possibility of a civil conspiracy.

Vic will never be vindicated in their eyes. Once Sabat et al lose the suit, soft-proving that Vic was innocent, they'll blame the justice system, patriarchy, rich white people, the Vatican, and whatever else because they can't fathom the idea of Vic not being a molester

 

[Kosher Salt]

lol Ty thought Boomer = Baby Boomer, not a lack of tech knowledge.

It's not wrong... that's what it means. Boomer = Baby boomer = old fart = technologically illiterate.

I think he just didn't realize that it was being used as a term of endearment (much like "weaponized autists of Kiwi Farms" is). He seemed fine with it once Nick informed him that it wasn't malicious... in fact, I think I remember at least 3 times in last night's stream when Nick and Ty joked about his age.

Toei would need to sue in the US because youtube (google) is a US company and it's servers are primarily located in the US. Thus the action occurring is in the US by US citizens. And as our Dear Feeder so elequently stated, the US doesn't give a fuck about some other shithole country's laws.

For an entity that was purely based in and operating in the US, that would be correct, but Google is a multinational corporation with a presence in Japan. If a Japanese court wanted to assert jurisdiction on Google, it could, and then it could enforce its judgement against Google's assets there.

Archive.li wasn't working for some reason.

It hasn't been working for me either. All day I've been getting reset connections, 503 errors, and I finally just killed all of the tabs but a couple and one of them has been sitting at "#2 in queue." for ages.

they could very easily sue youtube for breach of contract because they suspended their channel for no good reason. why would this apply? fun fact, terms of service are in fact contracts. while many do include a "we can ban you for any reason" clause, it does not cover or let them lie about the reason and that will lead to a very entertaining lawsuit.

Lol. Good luck with that.

I'm somewhat interestedly watching the Meghan Murphy lawsuit against Twitter, which basically covers exactly what you're talking about: selective and discriminatory enforcement of its TOS. That lawsuit, if successful, would completely change the landscape. I'll be honest, though... it looks weak, and the chance of a favorable decision is slim. Plus, if it looked in any way like she might win, Twitter would probably settle outside of court so as to avoid having legal precedent set.

 

[damian]

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It’s always a troon.

 

[HeyYou]

It's not wrong... that's what it means. Boomer = Baby boomer = old fart = technologically illiterate.

Boomer as a meme doesn't refer to actual boomers anymore, it usually refers to late 20s/early 30s millennials who are out of touch with current Gen Z games and fondly remember games like Quake and such. I guess Ty could fall under that meme for preferring the old 40K books as well.

 

[Monkey Prick]

Thank exceptional individual God somebody saves this Twitter URL from Terez. The more people expose themselves? The more likely Vic can legally sue them one by one. Better watch out kids.

Oh look, Geekdom using his clout to get his friends spots at cons only for them to sperg out and not go.

 

[Tard]

Oh look, Geekdom using his clout to get his friends spots at cons only for them to sperg out and not go.

Looks like the problem solved itself
Good riddance

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

Lol. Good luck with that.

I'm somewhat interestedly watching the Meghan Murphy lawsuit against Twitter, which basically covers exactly what you're talking about: selective and discriminatory enforcement of its TOS. That lawsuit, if successful, would completely change the landscape. I'll be honest, though... it looks weak, and the chance of a favorable decision is slim. Plus, if it looked in any way like she might win, Twitter would probably settle outside of court so as to avoid having legal precedent set.

except the difference is that the TOS lets them selectively enforce it. however, because its a contract with no "I can lie" clause, they can't make lies when they ban you. it makes them legally liable. true, its shaky legal theory, but its there and when there's legal grey area silicon valley gets scared. enough to maybe capitulate. why do you think the adpocalypse happened no once, not twice, but three goddamn times? because they're cowards and rather just sweep something under the rug than risk anything.

 

[Urbanmech]

Boomer as a meme doesn't refer to actual boomers anymore, it usually refers to late 20s/early 30s millennials who are out of touch with current Gen Z games and fondly remember games like Quake and such. I guess Ty could fall under that meme for preferring the old 40K books as well.

Well I lived in the Texarkana area a little too much. Thought he might have taken it as Boomer Sooner because there is nothing worse than implying a Texan they are from Oklahoma.

 

[CausticMinory]

I read 40+ pages of this thread, saw numerous screenshots of REEEEEENfamous screeching, and fun factoids about law and anime to state that: Laura Bailey and Troy Baker most likely stopped doing minimum wage anime roles for big budget video games because they became new parents over the past few months/years. (Not together though Laura with her husband Troy with his wife etc)

I bring this up to state, maybe if Jaimie, Monica, and Chris applied themselves more They wouldn't be in this autistic group trying to blacklist VA with shady deals.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

I bring this up to state, maybe if Jaimie, Monica, and Chris applied themselves more They wouldn't be in this autistic group trying to blacklist VA with shady deals.

They're willing to put in the effort for a mass civil conspiracy, threats, 24/7 twitter, doxing, and Goebbels -style PR blast, but they won't (or can't) put in the effort to make it big and actually make money.

They're pathetic losers.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Thank exceptional individual God somebody saves this Twitter URL from Terez. The more people expose themselves? The more likely Vic can legally sue them one by one. Better watch out kids.

Who exactly is this retarded fuck weasel, and why would he assume anybody was going to show at whatever idiocy he was planning on presenting>

Uhm, no.

Goblin Slayer was attacked by Cordyceps brain stemmed-SJWs because of the fact that the source material has to deal with Dark High Fantasy with a setting that has people come to understand why monsters such as the lowly goblins of typical jRPG/wRPG setting are actually despicable filth that breed by raping, impregnating and killing human women while massacring humans in general for domination and pleasure, and why a hero adventurer simply referred to as the titular "Goblin Slayer" would commit himself to a career of hunting and slaying only goblins.


They didn't read the source material (in which you could read the thought bubbles of the titular creatures) and attacked for being sexist and misogynistic because of the brutal and graphic depictions of said content (which on the aired anime is NOTHING compared to that actual LN content), because of the stylistic choice of showing and not telling the setting during EP1.


People getting sick of this shit simply defaulted to anyone complaining about this "edginess" correctly having not researched the source material, and this carried over to Tate No Yuusha no Nariagari (The Rising of the Shield Hero) -- except that it didn't work then either, because the LN author Aneko Yusagi is female and wrote the story exactly for the themes of exploring how a hero in a Isekai story would deal with being made into a martyr and punching bag due to false allegations.

You're trying to compare an apple (Ecchi Comedy Isekai Anime) to a durian (Dark High Fantasy Isekai Anime), there is no real comparisons to be made between the two, except to the immature, uninitiated and uninformed masses who don't look past the MAL entry descriptions and the screaming heads of Cuck-Soylent-FunkoPop anime bloggers.

They actually attack all of these anime equally, because they fucking hate all of the following:

1. Tits
2. Ass
3. Fun
4. Non SJW-compliant talking points any episode could be mined for OOC
5. Fun
6. Interesting Topics/Subjects/Ideas that r/woosh over an SJW's sensibilities.
7. Anything "problematic" that they can throw at the wall to make stick to win an ideological argument.
8. Fun

Both animes (Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer) take the source material seriously because they're "serious" anime;

Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! (KonoSuba: God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! ) is not a "serious" anime, it's a dysfunctional comedy -- OF COURSE IT'S PLAYED OFF AS A JOKE, IT'S FANSERVICE AT 110%!

I don't know how you're firing this wide from the hip, but reel it back a couple of notches.

You forgot
9. Sexual or Romantic relationships between any Heterosexual couples that do not include one or more grossly underage parties... or incest.

And here Ty Beard is, seriously investigating the possibility of a civil conspiracy.

Vic will never be vindicated in their eyes. Once Sabat et al lose the suit, soft-proving that Vic was innocent, they'll blame the justice system, patriarchy, rich white people, the Vatican, and whatever else because they can't fathom the idea of Vic not being a molester

Isn't it amazing how they all claim there are "Dozens of Accusers" but nobody can actually name or describe the dozens of accusations. None of them are first hand or even second hand. Nobody seems to directly know any of these dozens of victims. They are all seemingly urban legends. And what makes this real apparent is you can dig back through the social media on their own gathering places, and watch the evolution of what "everybody knows" about Vic morph from "He's a Christian!" to "He's a Christian Homophobe!" to "He's a Creepy Christian Homophobe!" to "He's a Creeper" to PEDOPHILE. All without seeming claim.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Fun fact: Cranston has wholesale disowned his early actor anime dubbing work and has even gone as far as to wish websites like IMDB were nuked off the internet, because it makes it impossible for actors like himself, to bury their early career work that they only took for money and now desperately wish to erase from existence after making it big.

Was that before Breaking Bad? Dude is a Golden Goose and usually the highlight of any movie he is in the current era. His talent just shines through in things he does.

 

[Kosher Salt]

because its a contract with no "I can lie" clause, they can't make lies when they ban you. it makes them legally liable.

If I'm not mistaken, their TOS says that they can ban you for any reason they want or even for no reason at all. That undermines the "they lied when they said why they banned me" argument - they didn't have to give a reason at all. So your complaint is that they lied? Okay, but how did the lie harm you? You wouldn't be able to say it harmed you because of the ban, because you've already tried to claim that the lie wasn't the real reason for the ban that they gave you.

The only potential avenue that you'd have to sue would be if they banned you because you were a member of a protected class. You could try to sue them for unlawful discrimination, but you'd have to prove that, and it definitely wouldn't be easy to prove. There just isn't enough information given in the ban message for you to really prove that their reason for banning you was illegal.

Now, you could maybe try to argue that they defamed you by sending the "we reviewed this and found that it violated our rules against: Hateful Conduct" message to the person who reported you, but I think that would be a pretty hard sell. I don't think many people would want to go up against Twitter's lawyers on that claim, especially not on their own nickel.

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

They're willing to put in the effort for a mass civil conspiracy, threats, 24/7 twitter, doxing, and Goebbels -style PR blast, but they won't (or can't) put in the effort to make it big and actually make money.

They're pathetic losers.

That would requires actually trying to be liked and using their networking skills for something other than shopping for dick so they can mix business with pleasure while REEing about OrangeManBad™ & BanTheAnimuTiddy™.

You forgot
9. Sexual or Romantic relationships between any Heterosexual couples that do not include one or more grossly underage parties... or incest.

I felt that it fell under #8, but you rite.