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Jesus Christ get over yourself

Yeah the $110K in prepaid up front legal fees are just going to evaporate.

Jesus these brainless cunts are stupid as fuck. It's almost frustrating not to see them get their brains dashed out like bloody oatmeal instantly, but good things come to those who wait.
 
Well, this is long overdue.

Shane Lee Holmberg
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Dox:
DOB: January 19, 1976
3910 Old Denton Rd, APT 708
Carrollton, TX 75007

This is his wife (archive). He is roughly 20 years older than her.
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He nuked his LinkedIn after the whole disaster of A-Kon publicly distancing themselves from him, but y'all have learned well, and @1Tonka_Truck took a screengrab.
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Interestingly, this Phoenix Entertainment Media Group has either failed to pay godaddy for their website, or has decided to go dark as well. All I could really find is another LinkedIn page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-phoenix-entertainment-group
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Oh yeah he was also arrested awhile ago for unlawfully carrying a knife. Actually would have been around the time his wife was born!
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https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg (archive)
https://www.facebook.com/shane.holmberg (archive)
https://www.instagram.com/shane.holmberg/
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BG2iiW1ipii/ - i just love the comments on this pic.
 
It can't be ruined if you just enjoy the thing the way you want to and associate with people in it who think like you do. It's the rule of thumb that there is no fandom without toxicity in it, and if you like something you should probably avoid the fandom unless you know someone who can point you to parts of the fandom you'll actually enjoy. I'm not saying there aren't toxic elements in a given hobby and that they might not be something like 'I'm not involved in this because I like it, I'm involved because I want the poon.' I'm saying that I've never seen something actually ruined by those people existing in that hobby. Just people saying it's been ruined by them. I'd say the SJW-esque types are far more damaging, because not only will they go out of their way to make sure No One Gets To Have Fun, but if they're allowed to fester, they'll strike at the core material and try to rewrite it into their tumblr awful ways. Casuals and thots don't actually do anything inherently, They're just around enjoying the thing in their own weird little way, not hunting down people who do it differently or trying to wrest control of it from the makers so that they might destroy it.
I think you're applying the comic to a limited view of your own hobbies. Think a bit more broadly. My own experiences line up a bit better with the comic itself (a tabletop gaming community) so maybe that's why I identify more. Imagine that you like a certain complex game, so you start going to events to compete. Eventually people who don't actually give a fuck about the game itself start showing up, despite the competitive nature of the events. It wouldn't be much fun, would it? It would ruin the event for the people who actually want to compete. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about...

The problem isn't that these people are "casuals". I'd consider myself a casual member of many hobby communities. Attention-seekers are the real problem, because they don't care about the hobby or community at all. They just use it to further their own goals (be it popularity, power, etc.) and try to become the center of attention. If these were people who cared about the game at all I wouldn't have an issue. But they don't, and it's apparent that they don't.
I think these people are almost like SJWs in a way. They want some type of control, but they go about things differently. Even still, a lot of the time these people either "turn" into SJWs, or "come out" as SJWs eventually. Odd, right?

SJWs are worse, sure. But while cancer is worse than herpes, I wouldn't be keen on having either...
So I'm not particularly happy about having either of these types of manipulating narcissists in my hobbies. I guess I'm just saying that I can relate.

TLDR; I disagree.
 
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Jesus Christ get over yourself

There you have it folks, the crux of what all these bastards want.

They want Vic to be destroyed. The accusations are clearly bullshit, but they don't care, they want his career in a grave they can dance on.

Fuck every last one of them, I'm just going to help make sure everything that could screw these scum over continues to be archived.
 

Just scroll down that page and see the responses to a comment about why Nick is so popular when he's done blackface.

I'll say it again. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
"I know Vic is a coward and is trying to hide behind this friend of his and his crazy alt right fans Online but to me it shows exactly WHO Vic is.

And I laugh when people say Vic is a kind and polite man. Not if you ever listen to the countless horror stories about him at cons"


Wow these people are so fucking stupid god I just hope they are so socially awkward that they do not breed.
Here is a nice take on the very next page.

"I'm a little confused myself, but there's too camps to this:

*Devoted Vic fans who can't see him doing any wrong
*People who think that social activists are the biggest danger to their lifestyle with their false claims and trying to bring down "good men".

That's why people donate to this cause - some people have such a warped view that THIS is what needs the most attention, or at the very least a sizeable part of it."


They still have no clue who they are fighting. To them its these small groups of people that are wrong lol
 
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Anime in 1995: Groups of fans sitting in darkened college Otaku Clubrooms watching animation that does things that no other form of animation has done before. Long, serialized stories; sex, extreme violence, bad language, stories centered around Japanese culture and history. Waiting on bated breath for months for that one series you're into to come out on fansub. Buying two official subbed episodes on a single VHS for 50.00 apiece. Realizing that animation can tell complex stories and isn't necessarily a medium for immature people.

Anime, 20 years later:


Still think Casuals and Thots don't ruin anything?

So you're saying that it's desirable to have to wait months on fans to pick out anime they want to sub, with no regard for your own taste in anime, sitting in some college room where you have to hide your love of anime because literally no one understands, so that you can watch a poor quality VHS that's insanely overpriced. If you don't go to college, if you're poor, or if you live in a small town forget it, you won't get to watch anything but Dragonball, Speed Racer and Sailor Moon, and no one is going to be there for you to talk about it with, or who doesn't think you're some kind of deviant for watching kid's cartoons as an adult.

Because oh no, there's silly people out there who are cringey about their enjoyment of anime you may or may not like? You're obviously joking.

I think you're applying the comic to a limited view of your own hobbies. Think a bit more broadly. My own experiences line up a bit better with the comic itself (a tabletop gaming community) so maybe that's why I identify more. Imagine that you like a certain complex game, so you start going to events to compete. Eventually people who don't actually give a fuck about the game itself start showing up, despite the competitive nature of the events. It wouldn't be much fun, would it? It would ruin the event for the people who actually want to compete. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about...

The problem isn't that these people are "casuals". I'd consider myself a casual member of many hobby communities. Attention-seekers are the real problem, because they don't care about the hobby or community at all. They just use it to further their own goals (be it popularity, power, etc.) and try to become the center of attention. If these were people who cared about the game at all I wouldn't have an issue. But they don't, and it's apparent that they don't.
I think these people are almost like SJWs in a way. They want some type of control, but they go about things differently. Even still, a lot of the time these people either "turn" into SJWs, or "come out" as SJWs eventually. Odd, right?

SJWs are worse, sure. But while cancer is worse than herpes, I wouldn't be keen on having either...
So I'm not particularly happy about having either of these types of manipulating narcissists in my hobbies. I guess I'm just saying that I can relate.

TLDR; I disagree.

You're still being overdramatic, here. I play DnD myself - and not those 4th and 5th edition turds - but it doesn't personally affect me if there's some gamestore that has adventures league running. If I want to set up a game with people who want to play 2nd ed or 3rd ed or even the original version, I can still do that. I can even contact a gamestore and arrange to have a night (or more, if it's popular) to start hosting those games. That people enjoy playing an MMO-ized DnD doesn't prevent me from continuing to enjoy the versions I do. It might reduce some the fan content made for it, but eh. There's communities for the classic stuff. It can't really 'reduce' it, if the content creators got into the scene because of the later ones in the first place.

I don't really get why people showing up who aren't interested in competing would somehow ruin competitions for the people who do want to compete. They're not competing. How are they interfering? Maybe you're not wording that right.

As for the attention seekers, I mean...literally just ignore them. They'll shrivel up and die in a poof of smoke if you just ignore them and do your thing. Or straighten out and just play the game, whichever way you win. I get that it might not always be ideal or as pleasant as the original situation with only hardcore gameweebs about it, but the conclusion that it's now been ruined and your only recourse is to take your ball and go home is just dramatic and ridiculous. Either adapt or keep doing what you've always been doing and ignore people who aren't playing along. There will always be people willing to do it your way, because if your way wasn't fun to begin with no one would have joined in the first place.

SJWs are a problem because while they may masquerade as casuals or attention seekers for a while, they inevitably come out as what they really are. And the casual might want the game dumbed down for them to keep up, the attention whore might want rules to be bent or broken for them, but it's usually just in a bubble around them. Don't play with them and the allowances for them usually don't apply. SJWs make it their mission to leave their mark on the world by restructuring everything, and they pressure everyone with guilt and self-righteousness so if you don't change it or give them control you're an awful person, and they'll probably start threatening your relationships/livelihood if you resist (but don't eject) them.

Casuals are more like dry skin. They have the potential to get worse, become cracked, end up bleeding and eventually even start building up infections that do harm to the whole body...but you kind of have to go out of your way to let and even cause that to happen. SJWs are an aggressive cancer. If you don't remove it from the body or kill it, it will kill the body and make a horrific twisted copy of the body out of its remains.


Just scroll down that page and see the responses to a comment about why Nick is so popular when he's done blackface.

I'll say it again. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

They're dumb.
 
Yes, Todd is just going to pin her down and rape her in front of a whole panel room full of guests and the attendees will just clap and holler and cheer him on.

Rial only gets scared of her safety when 1) Awkward questions are going to get asked or 2) She's not the biggest name in the room. (Haberkorn has a much larger official fan club).

Real fucking odd, innit?

Its clear that she's only doing this to attack Todd, but Monica made one colossal mistake, She didn't think about the Beard. Now that she's committed TI on Todd, He is gonna go after her now if Todd permits him. When that hammer is gonna fall, we may actually see a reversal in all of this PC and censorship bullshit that has infect entertainment.

Also, in this day and age I'd say Monica would be the one to get away with raping Todd on the Panel table. Ron would allow it being the Cuck that he is.
 
So these guys have only identified 4 people that Vic "assaulted", That's not really close to 25 oh wait was it 100's damn that goal post keeps moving too much to keep track of it....
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So wasn't the Michelle one debunked pretty fast? I kept hearing it was just confirming for myself and didn't Pridemore throw herself out there with the "Vic Hair Pull" accusation?
 
It can't be ruined if you just enjoy the thing the way you want to and associate with people in it who think like you do. It's the rule of thumb that there is no fandom without toxicity in it, and if you like something you should probably avoid the fandom unless you know someone who can point you to parts of the fandom you'll actually enjoy. I'm not saying there aren't toxic elements in a given hobby and that they might not be something like 'I'm not involved in this because I like it, I'm involved because I want the poon.' I'm saying that I've never seen something actually ruined by those people existing in that hobby. Just people saying it's been ruined by them. I'd say the SJW-esque types are far more damaging, because not only will they go out of their way to make sure No One Gets To Have Fun, but if they're allowed to fester, they'll strike at the core material and try to rewrite it into their tumblr awful ways. Casuals and thots don't actually do anything inherently, They're just around enjoying the thing in their own weird little way, not hunting down people who do it differently or trying to wrest control of it from the makers so that they might destroy it.


Half and Half on the Causal and THOT's. some of them are the SJW's that want to infect the core of the source while others are just chill people that add to the fandom. I think they've already reached the core on many things, but people have countered by doing indie comics and games. When it comes to the mainstream people are slowing leaving it because it's become a toxic river.
 
Yeah the $110K in prepaid up front legal fees are just going to evaporate.

Jesus these brainless cunts are stupid as fuck. It's almost frustrating not to see them get their brains dashed out like bloody oatmeal instantly, but good things come to those who wait.

They genuinely and wholeheartedly believe that this is all going to blow over. That Vic will just go away and die, they'll get their asspats and tendies for "fighting the good fight" and "believing wammyn" and being good little White Knight cucks for the mean girls, all while everyone upset at them are literally just GamerGaterNaziAltrightCapitalistDudebroFascistChristans who will get bored and fuck off and let them go on like nothing's happening, because that's how it always works.

They absolutely do not get that the second lawyers got involved everything changed. They fucked up. They picked the wrong target -- Vic is so clean he could probably fill in for Mr. Rogers on PBS. They went in too late, long after the Tumblr Fujoshi community was well known for being insane and full of shit by the rest of the weeb community. The journo-activists they normally would rely on were regulated to a single site (ANN) which no one cares about, and the secondary backup sites like HuffPo and Guardian that would have helped set the narrative recently lost all their culture war Journo-Activists when the Obama propaganda money ran out.

They didn't have the mental fortitude to change directions when the pushback happened, since "oh it's just nerds, anime's a nerdy hobby, you learn to ignore them unless you're selling something." They convinced themselves that GamerGate was a fluke, and they did so so effectively that they outright rejected the lessons of it -- the most important being do not bring your politics into business, and do not insult your customers.

They doubled down. They tripled down. They quadrupled down. They started attacking other bit players with false rape accusations and cried harassment and safety concerns, pretending to be damsels in distress so white knights would save them, because again, this is literally how it always works, so why wouldn't it now?

The only sad thing is I don't think the impending skullfucking will be enough to get it through to them. Yeah, as a whole, the West is Gynocentric as hell and will treat all females like the brain damaged toddlers people like MarzGurl or Rial act like, which means protecting them from all harm up to and including responsibility for their own actions. But there's a limit, and that limit tends to be somewhere on the other side of the legal system, outside of corrupted aspects like Family Law.

What I see happening instead is I see them completely and utterly losing their goddamned minds, their autistic screeching acting as a Horn of Gondor for their allies. To that end... How long until Zoe Quinn decides Comics really isn't FOR her, what she really wants is to voice act? Or Anita Sarkeesian decides that what Japanese culture really needs is some good ol' fashioned Gender Marxism?
 
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