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So far he has been doing a better job than RLM.
I'm really not often at odds with RLM, but when Rich Evans mocked people for calling Rey a Mary Sue in that silly voice, I died a little inside.
It seems "but she failed at inconsequential things" is their best way to refute that point, as if a Mary Sue was just someone who succeeds at everything all the time. That's quite a major fuckup on their part, tbh.
 
I'm really not often at odds with RLM, but when Rich Evans mocked people for calling Rey a Mary Sue in that silly voice, I died a little inside.
It seems "but she failed at inconsequential things" is their best way to refute that point, as if a Mary Sue was just someone who succeeds at everything all the time. That's quite a major fuckup on their part, tbh.
??? Rich Evans only does the body of Mr. Plinkett. Mike is the one actually doing the voice in the reviews. Don't be heartbroken.
 
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??? Rich Evans only does the body of Mr. Plinkett. Mike is the one actually doing the voice in the reviews. Don't be heartbroken.
That was in their regular Half in the Bag TLJ Review I think, not their Plinkett Review.
Specifically this point in the review is where they drop the ball:
Jay misses the point that pain makes Sith stronger, so if anything being injured should have given Goth Ren a boost. And does so in a silly voice, bad enough for Mike to chime in.
Mike misses the insanely HUGE point that Kylo Ren was not only trained by Luke (and well enough so to knock him out!), but also successfully murdered a shitton of Jedi apprentices and became Snoke's henchman, killing gods know how many with his light sabre over the course of a decade or so, still Mike claims that Kylo was "barely experienced". That's just horseshit, if I may be so blunt. It's pretty much in tune with his personality for me to assume that training with the Light Sabre would have been one of, if not the main aspect of Kylo Ren's training. I doubt Snoke could have tempted him to join his side with the Force equivalent of flower arrangement or anger-management meditation.

Somewhere in this, Rich also mocks people for calling Rey a Mary Sue, I think he goes "Rey is a Mary Sue. Unsubscribed!" in a lispy voice. Can't find that scene at the moment, though.
 
J.J. Abrams Opens Up About ‘Star Wars: Episode IX’ Directing Fears and Signing On Without a Script
Without a Script
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Cause that's a great sign, when there are apparently no overarching scripts to plan out the trilogy and every movie starts with a blank slate.

Abrams says the trilogy-concluding film is becoming "incredibly special" in the editing room.
"incredibly special" in the editing room
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Isn't this like them admitting that they are cobbling together something in post production? Also am I the only one that thinks of "special olympics" or "special needs", when I hear this is becoming "special"?

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“I wasn’t supposed to be there. I wasn’t the guy, ya’ know?,”
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And there was an actual moment when I nearly said, ‘No, I’m not going to do this.’
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The director thought coming back was like “playing with fire,”
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“To have no script and to have a release date and have it be essentially a two-year window when you’re saying (to yourself), ‘You’ve got two years from the decision to do it to release,’ [was daunting],” Abrams said. “And you have literally nothing. You don’t have the story, you don’t have the cast, you don’t have the designers, the sets. There was a crew, and there were things that will be worked on for the version that preceded ours, but this was starting over.”

tl;dr: "I had no confidence in this project and Ruin Johnson left IX with absolutely nothing to work with"

This is all but confirmation what we and countless others have been saying for a long timenow: IX is going to be a mess and the trilogy lacks any kind of vision or guidance, leading to insanely poor continuity and flow of story elements from one movie to the next.
 
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Cause that's a great sign, when there are apparently no overarching scripts to plan out the trilogy and every movie starts with a blank slate.



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Isn't this like them admitting that they are cobbling together something in post production? Also am I the only one that thinks of "special olympics" or "special needs", when I hear this is becoming "special"?
I’m just eagerly waiting until someone writes a book on how much of a total shit show the Disney era of Star Wars has been.
 
It was just as chaotic as we all suspected in terms of the franchise being completely rudderless. This was so fucked that Abrams is basically kicking off a PR campaign 8 months before the movie comes out to make sure the blame falls on Disney/Lucasfilm for not planning things out better.

So to answer your question, I went into it in an all-in leap of faith, aware that Katie was very supportive of this thing and felt it was the right thing. And so her divining rod of what’s real and what’s right was a comfort, despite her not being in London (where most of the shooting took place). And it was just an immediate immersion into the what-ifs of it all, which is the fun of it, but also the pressure of it. And I’m not complaining when I say this, but it was having to make decisions based on gut. When Damon Lindelof and I created Lost, we had essentially 12 weeks to write, cast, shoot, cut, and turn in a two-hour pilot with a big cast. And that was a crazy short amount of time. The benefit of that was, we didn’t have time to overthink. There wasn’t time to get studio notes that end up sometimes taking you in lateral positions and making you adjust things—death by a thousand cuts—to a place where something doesn’t resemble what it should be, and you can’t remember why you got there or how. So the good news was I was jumping in with a writer whom I admired enormously; with Kathy and Callum Greene, a producer whom I’d never met; Michelle Rejwan, who had been my assistant, and whom Kathy had hired to work with her as a producer. But it was a completely unknown scenario. I had some gut instincts about where the story would have gone. But without getting in the weeds on episode eight, that was a story that Rian wrote and was telling based on seven before we met. So he was taking the thing in another direction. So we also had to respond to Episode VIII. So our movie was not just following what we had started, it was following what we had started and then had been advanced by someone else. So there was that, and, finally, it was resolving nine movies. While there are some threads of larger ideas and some big picture things that had been conceived decades ago and a lot of ideas that Lawrence Kasdan and I had when we were doing Episode VII, the lack of absolute inevitability, the lack of a complete structure for this thing, given the way it was being run was an enormous challenge.

I said it earlier in the thread, but the thing that baffles me the most is how they took possibly the most valuable IP in existence and said "let's wing it."
 
Seeing how incompetent Disney has been with SW, it reminded that recently I was reading up stories that during Power Rangers: Dino Thunder, Disney apparently told Jason David Frank to start cussing because he said “hiya!”.

I said this before, Disney’s handling of SW is near identical with PR.
 
I said it earlier in the thread, but the thing that baffles me the most is how they took possibly the most valuable IP in existence and said "let's wing it."
And as I keep saying, they went with this "let's wing it" plan AFTER 30+ YEARS OF PRODUCT TESTING SEQUEL STORIES!

It's the equivalent of being handed a grenade launcher, told to go kill those fish in that barrel over there, and then drowning yourself in the barrel.

Homer Simpson would declare you an epic failure.
 
And as I keep saying, they went with this "let's wing it" plan AFTER 30+ YEARS OF PRODUCT TESTING SEQUEL STORIES!

Did I say that first? Who knows?

This is why I go easier on The Last Jedi than a lot of people. The setup was already fucked in The Force Awakens but TFA tends to get a pass because it was executed competently.

TFA was pretty bad and put any sequels in a deep hole, but a good writer could have climbed at least partway out of that hole. Rian decided to blast his way deeper and nick a sewage line on his way down.
 
Don't forget that time Jay said that Daisy Ridley was "charismatic as hell" in TLJ.
He said that about her in TFA, which I would agree with. I've only seen the film once and thought she carried the film on being able to portray someone generally likeable. It's when you look at the over-competence and the cracks in the storytelling that she falls apart. There is nothing wrong with the leads themselves to me. They're not the ones writing the script or directing the scenes they're in and they're not generally bad actors for this kind of film. Gwendoline Christie looks like a fucking retard everytime she opens her mouth about how great and empowering Captain Phasma is, for sure.

TFA is cinematic junk food. It's fun if you turn your brain off and don't consider how shaky it is in regards to the actual series. TLJ is not fun in any sense. The sequel trilogy is Star Wars for filthy casuals.
 
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Well I’ll be damned.

You gotta be shitting me... I see shit like this and think "this can't be real" but it is. Its like everything that everyone's been saying in this thread is turning into reality... Is this the lame bullshit they call "meme magic" or is this forum a nexus to the Force?
 
You gotta be shitting me... I see shit like this and think "this can't be real" but it is. Its like everything that everyone's been saying in this thread is turning into reality... Is this the lame bullshit they call "meme magic" or is this forum a nexus to the Force?
Let's just hope it isn't limited to gossip, but also extends to plotpoints. Many people have thrown around many terrible things that they think will happen in IX, such as time travel and so on, I hope we get a full barrage of those getting validated soon, too.
 
You gotta be shitting me... I see shit like this and think "this can't be real" but it is. Its like everything that everyone's been saying in this thread is turning into reality... Is this the lame bullshit they call "meme magic" or is this forum a nexus to the Force?
We're just guys who can efficiently scrape the bottom of the barrel, and predict such moves.
 
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