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Monkey Prick said:
I used to be all about separating the art from the artist, until these artists started ranting about crap on twitter and actively shitting on fans for not having the same beliefs as them.

These days if an artist is a cunt I'm just going to avoid their work as much as possible, why would I want to give money to cunts.
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It's why God invented piracy.
 
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AnOminous said:
My prediction as to number of dangerhairs in the jury pool: 0.
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Honestly, this was my biggest worry. That some fucking sjw or a soy fag would end up in the jury pool and fuck over Vic. But i trust your word, if the jury pool is filled with atleast decent normal people with a minimum of brain cells, this case is as good as won for BHBH
 
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RodgerDodger said:
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.
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Private Pyle said:
Forgive me if I’m being crass in my opinion, but I hold that either all of it is okay or none of it is.

I don’t go asking my barber or waiter for their opinions on politics; if they do their job competently, I could care less what their ideas and opinions are, within boundaries of course. Same applies for any artist or actor.

So if they went around saying “It doesn’t how good they are, they still deserve judgement”, that should also apply to them. If you’re going to be an asshole, whatever anime you were anime won’t matter then and there.
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AnOminous said:
Why would I even know my plumber was a Nazi in the first place? Unless he shows up in a Race War Van and does nothing but rant about the Jews instead of doing his job, I'm not going to know.

And given the choice between having a Nazi plumber and being waist deep in water, I'm still not going to give a shit if he's a Nazi.



Chinatown isn't any less of a classic movie because Polanski is a disgusting child molester. If anything, only a sick individual would have made that movie. I might choose to pirate it to avoid giving him any more money, but it's not going to be de-canonized.
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Slight semantics here, and RodgerDodger mostly got the quote right, but it's not that the plumber IS a Nazi, but that he'll call YOU a Nazi. Thought it was a pretty good analogy myself. If I'm really in a bind, and there's no other option, then I'll hire someone who throws verbal abuse at me to perform a service. But as soon as someone (or something) else becomes available, I'm going with that and not looking back.
 
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AnOminous said:
Why would I even know my plumber was a Nazi in the first place? Unless he shows up in a Race War Van and does nothing but rant about the Jews instead of doing his job, I'm not going to know.
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I find the neck and facial tattoos can be a good tip-off. Or when his advertising materials offer up “the Final Solution to your Plumbing Problems!!”
 
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AnOminous said:
The man is a loser who passes hot checks. It says something that he's that kind of person and is yet one of the only kickvic types who have even momentarily expressed qualms at the repulsive things his side does.
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and i honestly can't give shane the benefit of the doubt, that if he was in a position to use CPS against someone he wouldn't.
 
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AnOminous said:
The man is a loser who passes hot checks. It says something that he's that kind of person and is yet one of the only kickvic types who have even momentarily expressed qualms at the repulsive things his side does.
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I loved today’s tweet where he implied they all have lawyers. Yeah Shane, we know you have “an attorney of record” from that little Weapon Arrest. I doubt he is currently speaking to you. And based on the bad check writing assessment against you that’s gone unpaid for 15+ years, I’m thinking he hasn’t been paid either.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.
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For my part, I feel you separate the art from the artist until the artist makes a point of making that impossible. I can think someone is a shitty person, but still like the things they've done; it means I'm less likely to support them in new endeavors.

Then you have special cases like we've seen the last few years, where people have begun actively telling you to not consume their work if you disagree with them on anything, and that simply becomes easier.
 
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Slartibartfast said:
Then you have special cases like we've seen the last few years, where people have begun actively telling you to not consume their work if you disagree with them on anything, and that simply becomes easier.
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It's a little different when the guy making your hamburger makes it a point to spit on it before handing it to you. It's rather hard to ignore that.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
That's not suspension. That is account rename or deletetion.
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ShaggyDawg said:
I wish we could stop giving this sperg any coverage. They're obviously just feeding off the attention. Cut off it's food supply and it'll die. Besides that, they keep bringing up points that have already been disproven or addressed. Idiot confirmed. They're also not going to be hit in the lawsuit cos unless someone doxxes them, they have complete anonymity and will most likely delete their account the moment the first lawsuit and legal L is served to KickVic
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well I called this. probably not the only one tho. the sperg could always return tho. For the time being, I'll say good riddance.

Laughing-Man said:
No this is the broken stair list, it was a list where anyone could submit anyone who they considered a convention creeper to it to name and shame. The person running it was called “Moderator” and a few people tried to track her down. Here’s what we have:
-she likely lives in Midtown Manhattan.
-she said she had lived in NYC her entire life
-she wore a fur coat to a meeting at a specialty bookstore with a journalist from Kotaku
-she has moved the server hosting for the Broken Stair website multiple times to avoid detection, probably buying different hosting space each time
-she claims to have cosplayed before
-any attempt to find her has hit brick walls, the people looking into her suspect that resources are being deployed to protect her

Here is the working theory:
-Moderator is likely the NEET black sheep of a wealthy NYC family, maybe 3rd generation+. Someone with resources started trying to protect her after this blew up9
-She likely commissioned her cosplays, a possible way to track her
-she likely does not have a major social media presence, but she likely has one or two friends who are. She also likely has a relatively small friend group, one or two close ones.
-the coat belongs to a relative, probably at least a grandma given that fur fell out of fashion in NYC at least 50-40 years ago. Used as an impromptu disguise for the meeting.
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Ahhh Damn. I was kinda hoping it was the list mentioned. Regardless. quite and interesting list. Are any of the name on there worth actually investigating in the event something like this happens again ?

Anyone at KC, have fun and enjoy the show ?
 
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Monkey Prick said:
I used to be all about separating the art from the artist, until these artists started ranting about crap on twitter and actively shitting on fans for not having the same beliefs as them.

These days if an artist is a cunt I'm just going to avoid their work as much as possible, why would I want to give money to cunts.
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I remember when one of my favorite beat makers stopped talking about hip hop and DJ tech 100% and began retweeting drumpf diatribes every hour on the hour. I asked him to ease up in a DM after about a year of him shouting into the void, so he posted that DM on his feed and proceeded to excoriate me with about 50 of his followers. I never stated anything about politics other than "Can you talk about music again?"

He's not the first one, either. Writers, musicians and artists have all taken that big blue pill and lost the plot entirely. I think the greatest casualty of SocJus has been human culture, far and away.
 
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Do we have Kiwis on the ground at Kameha Con?
If we do, they need to watch Vic's booth, Sabat's booth, any of the panels Sabat is on, and any community interactive center (like a gaming room).
The CON-mmunity incident revealed that these KickVic turds will stoop to vandalism.
Also, be on the lookout for protests.
 
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btw, does anyone know why the VAs before the current ones were replaced ? I kinda forgot. specifically the original replacement that resulted in us getting Sabat and Schemmel cast as Vegeta and Goku?
 
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