Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[boulderblundermatt90]

Even so (and assuming she's offended because of the supposed sexual implications), off-handed comments aren't really classified as sexual harassment.

very true. why firing him for it was exceptional beyond any reasonable measure or even exceptionally nice measure.

 

[Nobleberry]

Soye already rolled that quick?

Well, you know he's thoroughly trained already to assume the position for getting pegged by Jellybean's Tyrone gang.

Maybe Ty found out the command word and used it.

 

[エリス]

Anyone find it odd that at the same time that Sony is citing bad press potential from #metoo as a primary reason for it censoring sexually suggestive japanese games, Monica Riall is saying point blank that she is whining directly to Sony Corporate about #metoo stuff?

Makes me think.

 

[Clockwork Dragon]

Well, I did talk to a girl about this, without mentioning vic that isn't into anime, and she basically said she'd be a bit offended... and mind, she's nowhere near rial and marchi levels of exceptional (in fact, i'd say she isn't).

I wonder if there is a generational thing going on. I can see how younger Millenials would be offended as their oh-so-refined sensibilities have not become jaded, but both Rial and Marchi are middle-aged broads who ought to know better. And who almost certainly DO know better, as they are both involved in an industry where people horse around, especially amongst friends (as they thought). I would bet they are faking their """outrage""" for their own reasons.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

I wonder if there is a generational thing going on. I can see how younger Millenials would be offended as their oh-so-refined sensibilities have not become jaded, but both Rial and Marchi are middle-aged broads who ought to know better. And who almost certainly DO know better, as they are both involved in an industry where people horse around, especially amongst friends (as they thought). I would bet they are faking their """outrage""" for their own reasons.

no. because when I told her about the firing, she said she thought it was way too far, but guessed it was likely because of reetoo. funi didn't wanna chance incurring their wrath and so thought firing vic was the safe option.

 

[XYZpdq]

I'm just a voice actor

This seems like a new tune from them. Is this the latest plan for defense "gosh we couldn't have colluded any tortoise interference, we're just a bunch of voice actors"?

 

[Monkey Prick]

Vic has been invited to another con, guy.

https://www.facebook.com/PRComicCon....1555542598./2542671719099266/?type=3&theater

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Isn't this the one Dominque was gushing about on twitter just a few weeks ago? LMAO.

 

[Captain Manning]

Is there something against Rooster Teeth, though? He said there could be something there despite them not being as exceptional as Funimation.

I think Rooster Teeth, as a corporate entity, is considerably harder to make a case against compared to Funimation. Nick thinks there could be a case, but I'm pretty sure even he concedes the point it's not a slam dunk like Funimation. RT simply said they are recasting one of Vic's characters. Full stop. RT, to their credit, seems to have handled their own branded social media "appropriately."

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

But I'm being led to believe they aren't in R1, if they're even anywhere. RT rarely gets talked about in this whole thing.

In the end, RWBY is one show. Vic can live losing one show. I think people are far more devastated by losing Vic in anime.

 

[エリス]

I think Rooster Teeth, as a corporate entity, is considerably harder to make a case against compared to Funimation. Nick thinks there could be a case, but I'm pretty sure even he concedes the point it's not a slam dunk like Funimation. RT simply said they are recasting one of Vic's characters. Full stop. RT, to their credit, seems to have handled their own branded social media "appropriately."

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

But I'm being led to believe they aren't in R1, if they're even anywhere. RT rarely gets talked about in this whole thing.

In the end, RWBY is one show. Vic can live losing one show. I think people are far more devastated by losing Vic in anime.

Social Media managers in the future will read about this shit as a basic example of how to handle their job.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

I think Rooster Teeth, as a corporate entity, is considerably harder to make a case against compared to Funimation. Nick thinks there could be a case, but I'm pretty sure even he concedes the point it's not a slam dunk like Funimation. RT simply said they are recasting one of Vic's characters. Full stop. RT, to their credit, seems to have handled their own branded social media "appropriately."

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

But I'm being led to believe they aren't in R1, if they're even anywhere. RT rarely gets talked about in this whole thing.

In the end, RWBY is one show. Vic can live losing one show. I think people are far more devastated by losing Vic in anime.

I agree, but it still pisses me off.

you know those fuckrags that call themselves writers would kill Qrow off even if vic was proven innocent and managed to charm his way back onto set just to spite him. fuck the writers.

 

[TheClappening]

I agree, but it still pisses me off.

you know those fuckrags that call themselves writers would kill Qrow off even if vic was proven innocent and managed to charm his way back onto set just to spite him. fuck the writers.

That's, sadly, what I see happening if there's a settlement where one of the terms is to have Vic continue on voicing Qrow. Can't legally boot him? Kill Qrow off.

 

[Vampy]

That's, sadly, what I see happening if there's a settlement where one of the terms is to have Vic continue on voicing Qrow. Can't legally boot him? Kill Qrow off.

Imagine killing a fanfavorite character your fans love just out of spite lmao.

It's sad though, I remember reading that Vic really liked the role since it was different from his usual casting.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Well, I did talk to a girl about this, without mentioning vic that isn't into anime, and she basically said she'd be a bit offended... and mind, she's nowhere near rial and marchi levels of exceptional (in fact, i'd say she isn't).

I would still love to know what was the reason or context for Monica to write her name on said Jellybean before giving it to him? I mean does that strike anyone as “normal”. Can anyone think of any possible explanation that does not involve some sort of flirty vaguely sexualized banter?

People seem to be forgetting about the convention setting and public nature of this 'incident'. They are both popular VA's (Vic being more popular) Monica does it to be a smart arse, take him down a peg and play up for the fans, the same with Vic's comment. 'Hahaha we are all friends, who like to have fun and banter' would drive people to Monica's table getting her more sales comapred to her true personality of being an uppity bitch. Like with boulderblundermatt above, did you ask in those terms or just a general if you and i did this way. Context makes a huge difference.

 

[Monkey Prick]

Well, you know he's thoroughly trained already to assume the position for getting pegged by Jellybean's Tyrone gang.

Maybe Ty found out the command word and used it.

I just realised that whoever at BHBH that reads this thread has probably spent weeks confused by us talking about people getting banged by Tyrone. Which becomes doubly confusing for them working for a man named Percy "Ty" Tyrone Beard.

"why do they keep talking about you sleeping with women and who the fuck is Chad?"

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

The only way I see BHBH getting at RT is through vice principals that have made very bad decisions.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

That's, sadly, what I see happening if there's a settlement where one of the terms is to have Vic continue on voicing Qrow. Can't legally boot him? Kill Qrow off.

Imagine killing a fanfavorite character your fans love just out of spite lmao.

It's sad though, I remember reading that Vic really liked the role since it was different from his usual casting.

its on his livestream too.

It's not even because they hate him that much. they're just shit writers. listen to the director commentary on volume 5 and match questions up with certain scenes they discuss.

their shitty writing is so bad, that volume 5 only worked because they conveyed the opposite of what they wanted to convey.

with writers like that? yeah, no, they'd absolutely do petty shit like that just because he said "this line was bad". this shit? and his inevitable win? they'll go full mad god kafka on him if needed.

People seem to be forgetting about the convention setting and public nature of this 'incident'. They are both popular VA's (Vic being more popular) Monica does it to be a smart arse, take him down a peg and play up for the fans, the same with Vic's comment. 'Hahaha we are all friends, who like to have fun and banter' would drive people to Monica's table getting her more sales comapred to her true personality of being an uppity bitch. Like with boulderblundermatt above, did you ask in those terms or just a general if you and i did this way. Context makes a huge difference.

I forgot the convention setting but I did mention table and lines so the girl should've known it was public. but yeah that is a very good point.

regardless, the reaction is just exceptional beyond belief. i know literal potats that are smarter than 5 of these bishes combined.

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

BTW, I'm gonna be a shill faggot and say ya'll should consider joining Nick's Discord. $5 a month allows you to listen in on the Wednesday chats. He's been saying a lot of interesting stuff about the lawsuit for the past hour or so, including stuff he doesn't say in his videos.

When he tells me "this doesn't leave the Discord," or tells me stuff in private, I follow that out of respect. I only share stuff he explicitly says I can. I love the Farms, but I also don't like violating trust when somebody expects me not to.

That's said, about half of the stuff I've shared so-far has also been posted on his Discord. The other half is Twitter DMs. The former doesn't make me super special.

https://newproject2.com/rekietalaw/

But I like being drunk.

I'll have to consider it after another paycheck and commission earnings.

Why are we stuck in this fucking stupid loop of the Rial/Soye marriage bullshit? They ain't married, they ain't even pretend married in the way Common Law punts it. End of. One or the other could flip and it's more likely to be Monica than Soye.


Yeah but the Youtube Lawyer kept telling her to shut up and she has a Karen-esque haircut, so you know that's just like a red rag to a bull.

It's probably why Nick kept repeating it because it had the exact opposite effect and thus makes this whole fucking lawsuit so much of a slam dunk.

I'd be amazed if the Judge doesn't order them to rip their shirts off their backs and hand them to Vic right there in the court room.

Nor is she denying that she presented it as an accusation of Sexual Misconduct. Rather she is clearly affirming that she did. She’s panicking big time. Which is interesting. She’s panicking because specifics of her stories that she used to sandbag Vic with Funimation are out there and being challenged. But also people know. She thought she could just whisper things in somes ear and make the inconvenient man disappear. But it’s not working that way. I wonder what’s really in there that has her so worried?

Ooh! Oooh! Could it be that the report might note Rial and Vic's prior speculated relationship and that's why it eventually came out as inconclusive?

Uh-Oh. UH OH.

Re: Dominique

I don't even know if it matters if there's a video.

She was there (and was forced to admit so herself, after PULL said otherwise).
She had an access pass that she wasn't supposed to have (photo evidence).
She was doing shady shit.
She got tossed the fuck out.

She took an embarrassing L. She went back into Twitter lockdown because her gay op didn't work.

Anything further would just be the gravy on top.

I thought KC said they had Skye's delete her videos and they have their own video of the incident which Emosh is trying to get.

I'd love to see it too, but...

I'm gonna predict right now, unless Emoshi or one of them has a video of their own (which they would have released by now), you're probably not gonna see it. KC is gonna keep that in their back pocket in case Dominique starts spouting off publicly about harassment, or she makes an accusation that one of the staffers touched her fake titties during the encounter, or some such bullshit. It's their insurance policy. It keeps her stupid lying ass mouth shut, and allows them to move beyond all this.

I've seen this happen before at a con many moons ago (it involved J-List, and I related it in the Mother's Basement thread). The con didn't start showing dirt on a public forum until they were forced to. It's a bad look if you're trying to look professional.

KC is probably relieved this shit is finally over as far as they're concerned. I hope their revenue was enough to cover costs, and they don't end up financially in the toilet (I kinda doubt it... they seemed to have really good turnout).

If I was smart, I'd incorporate it into security training for KC moving forward.

Like, really go all-out with the 80-90s zoom in effects and everything.

Have Vic as the on-screen narrator for the video, and then leak it to the public.

Thanks to Vic and their belated decision to honor their contract, which they shouldn't have had to be bitch slapped into doing for their own good.

I even give them a small amount of sympathy for that too. I mean, having somebody like Sabat reeeeing at you probably isn't pleasant, and convention guest contracts probably don't get litigated all that often.

I like to look at it from the standpoint that Ty gave them the courage to stand their ground. Sometimes people need that encouragement.

EDIT: Ty seems to harbor no ill will towards KC, and even said most of the staffers were first-rate.

People answered you what, but not who. If you want to know more check the Internet famous subforum ~1/2 of all threads are people directly or can be tied to IBS in some way.
The company was never specified. What'll be interesting is if Rial is in R1 as Ty recently said Igor/Iago wouldn't be R1 as that affects my Iago = Sabat, Igor =Rial theory.

Thots was deleted, people are saying security had footage of the incident and mightn't release it, but i'm not sure that's confirmed... I thought it was just a by-stander who supposedly captured the incident.

We may never know.

They did the right thing in the end. Iago lost. That's what's important.

The only thing KC could do better now is to dunk and piss on their graves with the giant "fuck you" as described above.

With all the jokes about Chads and Tyrones... "Monica Sandwich" is giving me some very bad images in my head. Shame on you.

Clearly false. As a proud latina, Dominique Skye did not give permission for this!

VIVA LA RAZA!

There it goes, my sides are now in orbit as I choke to death on my vodka.

it burns so good.

This might be relevant to the whole Monica/Sony situation.

If there's no blame to be on Sony, La Choy, why is Rial trying to contact them?

http://archive.li/X6Bkr

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There's also this gem:

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Monica...hey, Monica...

The fucking video's on IGN....

Dumbass.

You being a voice actor doesn't mean shit.

What the fuck?

This kind of thing works fantastically in cross examination.

"Is this your idea of sexual harassment?"

Considering it's literally the kind of thing that is explicitly defined as not being sexual harassment in Texas, this will not go well for them to have a history of nonsensical claims like this.

Anyone find it odd that at the same time that Sony is citing bad press potential from #metoo as a primary reason for it censoring sexually suggestive japanese games, Monica Riall is saying point blank that she is whining directly to Sony Corporate about #metoo stuff?

Makes me think.

Biting the hand that fed them, as expected.

It's high time for Sony to move back overseas -- purge that department before its too late.

I think Rooster Teeth, as a corporate entity, is considerably harder to make a case against compared to Funimation. Nick thinks there could be a case, but I'm pretty sure even he concedes the point it's not a slam dunk like Funimation. RT simply said they are recasting one of Vic's characters. Full stop. RT, to their credit, seems to have handled their own branded social media "appropriately."

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

But I'm being led to believe they aren't in R1, if they're even anywhere. RT rarely gets talked about in this whole thing.

In the end, RWBY is one show. Vic can live losing one show. I think people are far more devastated by losing Vic in anime.

I agree, but it still pisses me off.

you know those fuckrags that call themselves writers would kill Qrow off even if vic was proven innocent and managed to charm his way back onto set just to spite him. fuck the writers.

At this point, REEEE-ial and Co have reached Smollett status.

The pettiness is the least of our concerns.

The real issue is the tainted overreach between all these companies -- I could give less of a fuck what another writer says, but the directors need to do their fucking job and tell them to drop the bullshit and focus on the quality of the work for the job.

 

[Nontransferable]

That's, sadly, what I see happening if there's a settlement where one of the terms is to have Vic continue on voicing Qrow. Can't legally boot him? Kill Qrow off.

I don't see Vic demanding that Funimation and Rooster Teeth rehire him as realistic in any sort of settlement. He doesn't have a normal 9-5 job, it's all contract work that doesn't pay that well.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I think Rooster Teeth, as a corporate entity, is considerably harder to make a case against compared to Funimation. Nick thinks there could be a case, but I'm pretty sure even he concedes the point it's not a slam dunk like Funimation. RT simply said they are recasting one of Vic's characters. Full stop. RT, to their credit, seems to have handled their own branded social media "appropriately."

Now, some of the idiots at Rooster Teeth? As individuals? Different story. There could even be an in to go after corporate if they are vice principals.

But I'm being led to believe they aren't in R1, if they're even anywhere. RT rarely gets talked about in this whole thing.

In the end, RWBY is one show. Vic can live losing one show. I think people are far more devastated by losing Vic in anime.

The only way I see BHBH getting at RT is through vice principals that have made very bad decisions.

Or RT has a change of heart and brings him back.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here because it sucks that he loses a relatively notable character.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

So we know the where, now we're just waiting on the when. Still going with MoRon + Funi + Marchi for the first round, I'd be shocked if it was anyone else to be honest.

Yeah, definately narrows it down even more. Anyone other than those 4 parties would be a huge surprise IMO.